View Full Version : General HiPix tech support thread (not necessarily related to v3.5)
Please post you tech support issues or questions here about the HiPix.
I was wondering since the remote that came with the HiPix is basically crap (don't take offense), is there anyway that another remote, say my all for one could do direct input to certain functions of the HiPix, say, direct input stations, select diferent inputs without cycling through all of them? I taught my remote the hot keys from my wireless keyboard and that is a start to pause, stop, skip ahead, etc, but would like more functionality from a remote so that a keyboard would not really be needed. Any ideas?
Thanks for all your work!
Jim
Jim, someone on our team made the code for that several months ago. Unfortunately, he went overseas and I never heard from him again.
What most of us do is use IRman+girder+your universal remote of choice to control all the HiPix hotkeys. If you want to get really fancy, you can get one of those Gyro pointer mice and just point at the display.
Dennis.Mitchell
10-09-02, 11:03 PM
I have tried to resolve this error message when scheduling or try to start Meerkat after a prior error message. It is the error message above in the subject line.
I cannot find any other thread on "Hipix Overflow" in the Forum.
I have tried HipixCleaner, delete program directory, reinstall driver, reinstall application. Done this both on 3.1 beta and 3.5 beta (nice job Hipix Team).
Any ideas what I need to do?
I am running WinXP Pro SP1 with 256mb of memory, Radeon LE, PowerDVD XP.
Thanks,
Dennis
Timpanogos
10-09-02, 11:13 PM
Outstanding guys! The load of v3.5 went without a hitch. Question: when you are in full screen mode, how can I get it back to the desktop without using the remote? Used to be able to click the mouse and it would happen. Now I don't have any other method to get baxck to the desktop than using the remote. Any hot keys for this? Did I miss some change that happened a long time ago? Thanks in advance.
Jon Rees: When we worked at the same Philips facility, I wish that I had met you and got to know you better... you are one talented guy! And we seem to share the same passions.
jon_rhees
10-09-02, 11:17 PM
vfrjim,
there are several ways at this currently --
1. Use Girder. There are hotkeys for just about all functions.
2. Program your remote to send the hotkeys directly.
3. Convince us to directly support in HiPix app a *common* remote/receiver.
-Jon
duihlein
10-09-02, 11:31 PM
I tried to use the editor to remove commercials from a recording. When I selected the apply to .ts files I got the following error:
Run Time Error "339"
Component mscomctl.ocx or one of it's dependencies not correctly registered. A file is missing or invalid.
I searched for this file and did not find it on my C: drive.
I am running WinXP, no service pack.
I uninstalled and reinstalled the latest drivers, but did not use the cleaner program.
BTW
The rest of the App and the featues look great. Thanks for the hard work!!
Dave
I will look into Girder and see if it works out for me. Maybe we could use the MyHD remote, my friend has it and looks like it would do everything, but that's just a thought unless you guys know of a remote that will do it.
Thanks again!
Jim
Jim, any universal remote will do with IRman.
BTW, where are Girder and IRman files located?
BTW, I am excited about this new update, came in time for my New Samsung HLM507W, my first HDTV, been using the HiPix on a old Analog Mits 27" since I got it. I figured that I tested it enough over these last months to give it some use NOW. I get the set tommorrow. :)
BTW, new version installed without a hitch, nice. One thing I did notice is that nothing was changed with the DVD playback, was that NTSC splash screen that difficult to remove?
Also, if you developers continue to work on the DVD playback, I did find a bug that I did not mention before. If you try to play back a "virtual DVD" back with Zoomplayer and the HiPix, it will not play, but not using the HiPix and it plays back just fine on ANY software DVD player. By a "Virtual DVD", I mean a extracted .iso of a DVD mounted as a "Virtual drive" using Fantom CD or Daemon Tools.
Thanks!
Jim
jsnides
10-10-02, 12:32 AM
A sincere thank you to Jon Rhees and the HiPix gang. One question, Is the HiPix DVD patch have to be installed, with ver 3.5, for one to have DVD playback through the HiPix card?
Thanks again..
jsnides, the Hipix DVD add-on needs to be installed in order to have DVD playback. You should read through the HiPix DVD add-on thread to find out how it works.
Michael, I didn't install the DVD patch and the DVD playback on the 3.5 version worked just like the last version or was it cause there was remnants of it from my prior install?
Jim
I currently have the hipix card and everything seems to work
great however I have a couple questions. I have version 3.00 and I can't
get any of the hot keys to work from my airboard wireless keyboard. Do I
have to activate the hot keys. If so, where? It's very distracting to have to toggle back to the app to fast forward etc. I also have heard people discussing an On Screen Display with hipix and I don't have this. Is this something else I need to activate? If so, how? Any info would be appreciated.
I posted this earlier but didn't really understand the responses.
Thanks,
Jeremy
GaryHDTV
10-10-02, 11:04 AM
Jeremy, the (GUI) OSD only works when using the loopback cable. If you are using two monitors, you will only have the regular text OSD.
Now that this thread exists, it's a better place for my question:
A question about the commercial autodetection - does it look for AR changes only to 4:3, or any change in AR from the normal 16:9? In Denver, on our ABC station, they broadcast all of the local shows and commercials stretched, rather than in 4:3 like the other stations do. Will 3.5 detect the change in AR to stretched and still bookmark out the commercials, or will it only work for the national commercials that the stations sends in 4:3?
Mark, there has to be some kind of change in the AR for the HiPix to detect a commercial break. If you see black borders (even a little bit) during the commercial break, the Hipix can detect the commercials. In the SF Bay Area, we have a relatively big group of DTV viewers who asked our local TV stations to NOT distort 4:3 content (commercials or not); this is commonly called "distortvision".
jon_rhees
10-10-02, 12:26 PM
Markdl,
As Michael pointed out, if you can spot any significant change in borders you can tweak the AR detection to catch it. Borders may indeed be there even if you don't see them if you're using a standard or RPTV, since they overscan and generally hide this. In that case, run your HiPix to a computer monitor *or* you can look at the 'Currently Detected Value' value which is displayed in the commercial detection settings dialog.
AR detection, in general, is a stopgap solution which will probably only be useful for the next season or two. The commercial detection engine in the HiPix is designed to be extensible to works in progress for more elaborate detection techniques -- based on everything from scene activity to sound patterns.
-Jon
KenWest
10-10-02, 12:30 PM
Is there a way to make so Meerkat is NOT started and remains running after HiPix is exited? i.e. one of two solutions: 1. Meerkat does not start when HiPix is or 2. it is also exited when HiPix is closed...
GaryHDTV
10-10-02, 12:37 PM
...to sound patterns.
You mean like looking for the 'blast you out of your seat loud/compressed' commercial audio most programmers use :) . Another would be detecting the station logo disappearing.
jon_rhees
10-10-02, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by duihlein
I tried to use the editor to remove commercials from a recording. When I selected the apply to .ts files I got the following error:
Run Time Error "339"
Component mscomctl.ocx or one of it's dependencies not correctly registered. A file is missing or invalid.
Dave
Dave,
Please PM me your email address where I can send you a 'test' app that will probably resolve this.
-Jon
MichaelZ
10-10-02, 01:31 PM
Kudos to the HiPix team for another great release! One thing I have notice is if I check the loopback, even though I don't have it hooked up, I still get the OSD, which is way cool. One bad thing is my mouse is trapped in the grayed out area on my pc, which makes it difficult to turn the loopback off (although I somehow manage to do it, sometimes), It would be great if you could add a button on the OSD that would turn off loopback to return control to the pc (so to speak). I hope this makes sense :) I like using the OSD but I don't want to use the loopback (for various reasons).
Thanks once again for a great program!
Originally posted by mkanet
Mark, there has to be some kind of change in the AR for the HiPix to detect a commercial break. If you see black borders (even a little bit) during the commercial break, the Hipix can detect the commercials. In the SF Bay Area, we have a relatively big group of DTV viewers who asked our local TV stations to NOT distort 4:3 content (commercials or not); this is commonly called "distortvision".
Thanks for the replies, Michael and Jon. In Denver, there are 40 or 50 of us who are vocal, and regularly talk to station engineers here. The problem we have with our ABC station is they are broadcasting a 4 kW signal from the top of their 6 story building downtown, so there are only about 15 of us in town that can even get the signal. We've tried to get them to stop distorting the pictiure, but they haven't listened yet. I doubt there's much of a border change when they switch from 16:9 normal mode to 4:3 stretched mode. But, I'll just have to try it and see, I guess.
The EPG is much better than it was, but is still has trouble. I was able to get the KQED program guide to display properly for the first time since the AVS team started working on the software. After attempting to get a program listing on every station in the area, there was sound, but no picture when I exited the EPG, I could change channel, but still no picture. Attempting to close Hipix caused it to hang. End program did not work. My computer hung "saving settings" when I tried to re-start. I had to hit the reset button on my computer to recover.
The "F" key to switch to full screen mode still works when hipix is set to not use the loopback cable. This is a bug, but maby it can be turned into a feature. It would be nice to be able to use the onscreen controls even if one is not using the loopback cable. Perhaps the F key should just move the mouse pointer from the computer to the HDTV display & back when the loopback cable is disabled. It almost does this already, the biggest problem with using the "F" key without the loopback cable is that every other press of the "F" key disables the HDTV output.
DAP, I have no problems at all with scheduling from either 36.1 or 30.1 using the OTA EPG. If fact, it seems to work better than ever before (better than v2.31 and earlier).
Does this happen the same exact way you described every time?
WishIdInventedTivo
10-10-02, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by MichaelZ
Kudos to the HiPix team for another great release! One thing I have notice is if I check the loopback, even though I don't have it hooked up, I still get the OSD, which is way cool. One bad thing is my mouse is trapped in the grayed out area on my pc, which makes it difficult to turn the loopback off (although I somehow manage to do it, sometimes), It would be great if you could add a button on the OSD that would turn off loopback to return control to the pc (so to speak). I hope this makes sense :) I like using the OSD but I don't want to use the loopback (for various reasons).
Thanks once again for a great program!
MichaelZ, ESCape or F will get you out of that screen. The file navigator only works if loopback is enabled, even if you don't actually have the loopback cable plugged in. This is how I use it... loopback enabled but the cable isn't actually connected. I previously reported this as a bug (that loopback has to be enabled to get the navigator file list even if loopback not physically connected) and have added it to my 3.5 bug list I'm building. I thought OSD worked regardless of the status of the loopback check box tho.
Incidentally I've noticed that now if I connect to my HTPC via pcAnywhere that the full screen message is now actually full screen and that pressing ESCape terminates full screen mode/lockout. This is great as now I don't have to run upstairs and toggle HiPix when I connect to my HTPC via pcAnywhere to update the recording schedules.
WishIdInventedTivo
10-10-02, 08:56 PM
Kudos to the team... another excellent release! I installed it over 3.1 without any problems... haven't needed to "clean" or uninstall HiPix for the last two releases now. I didn't update the drivers as they appear to be the ones I installed with 3.1. I have two issues I need help with:
(1) I use Girder with my IR remote control and everything works great except for moving around in the file navigator/pick list. Here are my Girder target settings:
Name: HiPix DTV-200
Class Name: ThunderRT6FormDC
Executable: HIPIX DTV-200.EXE
This works for everything except the file navigator/pick list. To get the left/right/up/down arrow keys to work I have to disable the target settings and activate "send to foreground task". I would prefer to configure this for the correct HiPix target but I am unable to launch Girder and and figure out the revised target information because the pick list only works in full screen mode (and I don't have a monitor connected to my PC).
Does anyone know the revised target information?
(2) Am I supposed to be able to get the recording schedule list while in full screen mode? I can't figure out how to do this and I get the impression from the release notes that this is possible now.
Thanks!!
Originally posted by mkanet
DAP, I have no problems at all with scheduling from either 36.1 or 30.1 using the OTA EPG. If fact, it seems to work better than ever before (better than v2.31 and earlier).
Does this happen the same exact way you described every time?
I've only tried this once (I don't like having to hit the reset button on my computer). I have not ever tried to record using the EPG, just look at the schedule. The EPG for PBS had no correlation to what they were actually showing (maby they forgot to update it). I could not get an EPG for any other channel (36 was blank). What seems to cause the problem is sequentially stepping through all the channels with the EPG. I may play with this some more tonight.
jon_rhees
10-10-02, 10:02 PM
Originally posted by WishIdInventedTivo
(1) I use Girder with my IR remote control and everything works great except for moving around in the file navigator/pick list. Here are my Girder target settings:
Name: HiPix DTV-200
Class Name: ThunderRT6FormDC
Executable: HIPIX DTV-200.EXE
...
Does anyone know the revised target information?
(2) Am I supposed to be able to get the recording schedule list while in full screen mode? I can't figure out how to do this and I get the impression from the release notes that this is possible now.
Thanks!!
1. I'll look into the target information, however I'll likely change the app so that the same target settings work all the time.
2. You can get to the recording list by pressing the Timer HotKey (alt-R). However, due to an oversight this currently will only be accessible when in ATSC (Tuner) mode. (You can also enter and edit record schedule with the OSD)
-Jon
WishIdInventedTivo
10-10-02, 11:02 PM
Jon,
(1) Thanks. Having it use the same target configuration as the rest of HiPix is the best solution.
(2) My mistake - I had Girder misprogrammed. This actually works in the ATSC mode like it's supposed to and it's pretty slick! It doesn't work in NTSC and I assume should not, since one can not record NTSC programs. I use HiPix exclusively for ATSC recording/playback so this suits me fine.
P.S. How does one access the EPG people are talking about? Is this something different than bringing up the TitanTV.com web site through a browser?? It would be nice to be able to display information about the current program like my TiVo and Zenith STB.
Incidentally one has to program an ESCape button to use the remote control with HiPix to clear the screen of the file navigation pick list and recording scheduler. I post a list of issues in a day or two but thought I'd mention this while I had your attention. :)
ccclapp
10-11-02, 01:33 AM
I have been using HiPix v3.0 on my P4 XP Pro HTPC. Now I have upgraded to v3.5 and the picture quality is not as good. In addition there are some features I do not understand. I am guessing I do not have the settings correct. I would appreciate your guidance.
My display is a Pioneer 503CMX. I am using the Loopback Cable (because I think I am supposed to) Here are my questions:
1) General Tab:
a. Does “Enable Preview Window” work? I get a message “Unable to render video overlay (May be in use)”
b. Am I correct that I should select “Use Loopback cable”?
c. What is “Close App to System Tray” used for?
2) HDTV Tab:
a. All Available displays are selected (default), Aspect Ratio is set to Normal and Display is set to RGB. Is this correct?
b. does it matter which display selection is highlighted, if all are checked? If so which one should be highlighted?
3) Preview/Volume Tab:
a. “Use VIP Port is selected. What does this mean vs “Video Over PCI (VOP)”
b .Am I correct I should select “Use Native Resolution” and if I do, the “Standard Window Size”, “Window Aspect Ratio” and “VOP Mode” selections do not matter? If not, what should these be set to?
4) I often connect/control my HTPC via XP Remote Desktop. When I do I cannot see the TV picture on the remote PC, but I can load HiPix, hear sound adjust all settings, etc. Is these anyway to get the TV picture on the remote desktop?
Thank you very much for your help. Congratulations on your new release!!
--Caleb
Chapmanw
10-11-02, 11:24 AM
Good morning, I've been lurking about very sporatically for almost two years... finally got a HiPix yesterday to enhance my Panny OTA/Sat unit...
I'm having zip-zero-nada luck getting this puppy to work in my box:
i.e. Intel OR840 w/dual 933's...W2KPro...NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX400...stripped to nothing but CD R/RW and HD...
All versions of app (2.3, 3.0 and 3.5) do the same thing...Reboot about 10 seconds after execution or immediately after clicking on ANY button like SETUP...
Tried to locate all info/procedures I could so as not to have to cry uncle.
Read about the 'cleaner' and acquired/ran it this morning..
as well as searching for file contents with Telemann and trashing them (OEM11.INF and associated .PNF)...
as well as searched for files/folders w/HiPix in the name and trashed...
THEN I installed 3.5 beta 1 and NO JOY!
I was not able to locate MB conpatability info, blind in one eye-can't see out of the other...
ANY help/pointers to info would be extremely appreciated.
Tia, Richard C.
==================
Forgot the first time. app indicates the card is READY...
Chapmanw, currently, the HiPix doesn't support dual CPU motherboards (with two CPU's active). It works on some dual CPU motherboards, and some it doesn't.
ccclapp - you probably need to readjust your video settings to what you were using before you upgraded to 3.5 - they don't carry over. That's probably why your picture doesn't look as good.
Jon and Mkanet - I played with the commercial detection last night, and it appears that 2 of the stations in Denver aren't going to work with the detection works at the moment. ABC here may work - the stretched 4:3 picture reads a 1% threshold value, while in 16:9 normal, it reads 0%...so I may be able to get that to work. But, our CBS station is broadcasting gray sidebars with their 4:3 images which read a 0% threshold value, the same as when they are sending the normal 16:9 HD signal. Oh well...time to talk to the station engineers again. :)
I did get what appears to be a bug last night - while in full screen mode using the loopback cable watching a channel with the atsc tuner, I clicked on the File (?) button on the OSD - the bottom button on the list on the left side. It brought up a transparent gray screen over the picture with a tab that read File Currently Playing, or something like that. There was no way to clear that screen. In fact, there was no way to do anything, so I had to reset the computer to get out of it.
And, one more thing that I'm still having problems with - When scheduling a recording from TitanTV, the channels are automatically remapped to what I guess is a digital equivalent of the normal analog channel. For example, in Denver our analog ABC station is channel 7, and their digital channel is 17.1. When a timer is set with TitanTV, it is for channel 7.1, not 17.1. The problem is that when the hipix switches to channel 7.1 and starts recording, there's no signal for it to record. No video, and no audio. The problem happens only with the ABC station - remapping the CBS station and the FOX station work just fine and there's signal there to record. Why would it work for 2 stations and not the 3rd? Is this something that I need to take up with TitanTV, or is there something I can do in the hipix software to solve this? I have to schedule all ABC recordings from the manual timer setup...which of course is a pain after using TitanTV for the others! :)
Chapmanw
10-11-02, 01:02 PM
mkanet-Thanks for the assist...
Guess I need to 'upgrade' to a good single board... <G>
Phoning to find a board wo/driving 120 miles... Richard C.
ragamuffin
10-11-02, 01:13 PM
Chapmanw
I too have a multi-cpu system I've had HiPix problems with... I've been successful running it in single processor mode by editting the boot.ini file and adding the /onecpu option. I can then choose to boot this system in either mode. Your mileage may vary.
ccclapp
10-11-02, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by markdl
ccclapp - you probably need to readjust your video settings to what you were using before you upgraded to 3.5 - they don't carry over. That's probably why your picture doesn't look as good.
Mark
I deleted prior versions of HiPix as recommended on the v3.5 thread, so I do not have these. More importantly, I (and I assume others), really do not understand some of the setting choices. It would be great if you would reread my prior post and respond the setting questions. I think most of them are general enough to benefit many users.
Thanks very much!
--Caleb
ccclapp, you can use the forum's search tool to find out how to use the various features of the HiPix. Most of your questions are answered in our previous software release annoucement (version 3.1).
PS: We didn't change anything in respect to picture quality.
PPS: The answer to question #4 was also answered in the Version 3.5 annoucement thread.
jon_rhees
10-11-02, 02:10 PM
Markdl,
I am planning in the future a chroma-based detection which may overcome the gray bars issue.
Pressing the 'File' button on the OSD will, by default, bring up the 'Now Playing' list on the OSD (this can be overridden in the Setup->Recording tab). If you could, I would appreciate you trying this again and describe exactly what appears when you do this. It is possible some sort of error is occurring in the HiPix app. Otherwise, normally pressing the ESC key will exit this dialog.
Automatic channel mapping can vary based on what a broadcaster is encoding in their PSIP tables (which still is problematic for many stations). You can use the 'Channel Remap' feature to map channel 17 down to channel 7, which should solve your TitanTV woes.
-Jon
Thanks Jon. Tonight when I get home I'll try the file button again, and pay attention to exactly what happens. I don't think I tried the ESC key, so I'll try that as well. I'll also try remapping 17 down to 7 and see what happens with TitanTV.
Thanks very much for all of your work!
Chapmanw
10-11-02, 02:40 PM
ragamuffin-
Tried the '/onecpu' switch to no avail with the OR840 mb... dangit... <G>
Couldn't find the termination board to totally remove P1... probably would be the same results though...
Many thanks for the thought.
Time to spend mo'money!
Originally posted by ccclapp
I have been using HiPix v3.0 on my P4 XP Pro HTPC. Now I have upgraded to v3.5 and the picture quality is not as good. In addition there are some features I do not understand. I am guessing I do not have the settings correct. I would appreciate your guidance.
My display is a Pioneer 503CMX. I am using the Loopback Cable (because I think I am supposed to) Here are my questions:
1) General Tab:
a. Does “Enable Preview Window” work? I get a message “Unable to render video overlay (May be in use)”
b. Am I correct that I should select “Use Loopback cable”?
c. What is “Close App to System Tray” used for?
2) HDTV Tab:
a. All Available displays are selected (default), Aspect Ratio is set to Normal and Display is set to RGB. Is this correct?
b. does it matter which display selection is highlighted, if all are checked? If so which one should be highlighted?
3) Preview/Volume Tab:
a. “Use VIP Port is selected. What does this mean vs “Video Over PCI (VOP)”
b .Am I correct I should select “Use Native Resolution” and if I do, the “Standard Window Size”, “Window Aspect Ratio” and “VOP Mode” selections do not matter? If not, what should these be set to?
4) I often connect/control my HTPC via XP Remote Desktop. When I do I cannot see the TV picture on the remote PC, but I can load HiPix, hear sound adjust all settings, etc. Is these anyway to get the TV picture on the remote desktop?
Thank you very much for your help. Congratulations on your new release!!
--Caleb
Ok, Caleb...I'll give some of your questions a shot, although I'm by no means an expert on any of this.
1a. I've gotton the preview window to work, but don't use it. Never saw the error message you're getting.
1b. Yes, if you are using the loopback cable to display your computer desktop on your television. If you have a separate monitor connected, and only view your hipix overlay on your television, then you would set this to NO.
1c. That's in the hipix 3.1 thread. I don't use it either.
2a. Sure, yes and use RGB if you are running your hipix output through a VGA to component transcoder, or if you are connecting directly to an RGB port on your television. If you are using an RGB to component breakout cable, then that wants to be set to YPrPb.
2b. Don't think so.
3a. VIP port is a special cable connected from the VIP connector on the hipix to a VIP connector on a video card. I don't think video cards have VIP connectors on them anymore. VOP is video sent through the PCI bus. That's about all I know about it.
3b. Don't know...I don't use the VOP.
4. I believe Mkanet answered that one.
More on the EPG:
I played with this again last night. I was on channel 2, I wanted to look at the EPG for channel 36. I brought up the EPG, Damn, channel 36 tab was not displayed (too many channels). I hit the down channel button 5 times. after a long wait it displayed the 30.1 EPG. I selected the 36.1 tab, it displayed the 36.1 EPG (it was midnight, so it was all paid programming). I selected the 30.2 tab, the progress bar got to 1/3 and stopped. Hipix was hung. I was able to end task it, but I was paranoid about the system being screwed up, so I restarted my computer. So now I have used the EPG on 3.5b twice, and had it crash Hipix two different ways.
Dap, I too have a lot of channels listed on the OTA EPG. And, I also have to use the down arrow to get to the higher channels. But, I dont have the problems you're having no matter what I try. Maybe someone else can reproduce what you have here in the SF Bay Area.
ccclapp
10-11-02, 03:56 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by markdl
Ok, Caleb...I'll give some of your questions a shot, although I'm by no means an expert on any of this.
1a. I've gotton the preview window to work, but don't use it. Never saw the error message you're getting.
3b. Don't know...I don't use the VOP.
[/QUOTE
Mark
Thank you very much for responding!
A quick follow-up:
1a. Is the idea of the preview window to allow less-than-full-screen viewing of the video? If so, that would be useful and I would like to figure out how to do that.
3b. I do not use the VOP either, but I do select the box marked "Use Native Resolution". Is this correct, or are you saying none of this matters if one has not selected VOP?
Thanks
--Caleb
I have noticed that the last 2 shows that I had scheduled to record while I am away have recorded in the wrong directory, it's weird cause if I just hit record while watching a show, it records into the directory that I want it to, but not when scheduled automatically.
Jim
jon_rhees
10-11-02, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by vfrjim
I have noticed that the last 2 shows that I had scheduled to record while I am away have recorded in the wrong directory, it's weird cause if I just hit record while watching a show, it records into the directory that I want it to, but not when scheduled automatically.
Jim
vfrjim,
Can you give details on how those two shows were scheduled?
Thanks!
-Jon
Originally posted by mkanet
Dap, I too have a lot of channels listed on the OTA EPG. And, I also have to use the down arrow to get to the higher channels. But, I dont have the problems you're having no matter what I try. Maybe someone else can reproduce what you have here in the SF Bay Area.
I have had similar problems with older versions of the Hipix application when I have left the Antenna Aim window up for a long time. Never had this cause the hard hang, but it gets so that it won't display the video till I close & re-open hipix. Havn't tried this with 3.5 though.
It was one show and I scheduled it to record on a daily basis. I used Titantv to schedule it and it worked fine in the prior release but for the last 2 times the recording went off, it put it in the default HiPix directory. Yes, I have the box checked off to use last directory and if I record something while watching it, it records to the correct directory. I will try it again tonite to see if it works this time.
Jim
WishIdInventedTivo
10-11-02, 11:29 PM
Originally posted by vfrjim
I have noticed that the last 2 shows that I had scheduled to record while I am away have recorded in the wrong directory, it's weird cause if I just hit record while watching a show, it records into the directory that I want it to, but not when scheduled automatically.
Jim
Did you change the default directory at any time? This information is stored in the scheduled recording entry in the Windows registry and doesn't appear to be updated if you change the default.
Ken Erickson
10-12-02, 01:50 AM
I've upgraded to 3.5 the other nigth and recorded CSI without problems. Tonigth I had setup to record RHD and can't. I keep getting the runtime error 76 - path not found.
I wiped the installation using the cleaner app and then reinstalled every thing. Now I get "Can not initalize HiPix Filter Graph".
OK. found the right thread regarding the last error message - reload device driver and all is well again and 3.51 to boot. Thanks HiPix team.
Ken Erickson, after you run the HiPix cleaner, it removes the driver as well. The error message you're getting is because the driver isn't installed.
The error you got above is probably because the HiPix was trying to record to a directory/path that doesn't exist anymore...
jon_rhees
10-12-02, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by Ken Erickson
I've upgraded to 3.5 the other nigth and recorded CSI without problems. Tonigth I had setup to record RHD and can't. I keep getting the runtime error 76 - path not found.
I wiped the installation using the cleaner app and then reinstalled every thing. Now I get "Can not initalize HiPix Filter Graph".
OK. found the right thread regarding the last error message - reload device driver and all is well again and 3.51 to boot. Thanks HiPix team.
Hmmmm we need to fix errors like that!
-Jon
I would like to thank the HiPix team for all of their hard work. I just bought a second HiPix card a few weeks ago and new software releases like this really make me one happy camper.:)
I have had an interesting problem that I have never encountered before. This may be a local issue so let me know if you think it is. A couple weeks ago I recorded Alias while watching it live. When I went to play back the file I noticed that there are several spots where I am getting no data. This is similar to a signal dropout. The thing that is weird is that I watched the whole show with no dropouts but when playing back there are several areas that do play back even though I watched it live.
Any thoughts or opinions?
Thanks,
Rick
Hi folks,
This might belong in its own thread, but I figured it would be safe here since some of the questions (display) are HiPix related.
Up until this morning, I was pretty set to buy the HiDTV card, but after a little more research, a few emails from one of the HiPix group members here at AVS, and reading about the latest 3.51 version of HiPix software, I've changed my mind and have decided on the HiPix (I'll make it official tomorrow, I guess.)
I do, however, have a few questions that I need to answer before I start this project.
Currently, I have the following setup:
Mitsubishi WS-55907 HDTV (no built in decoder)
Dish Network 6000 Receiver w/ 8VSB card
ReplayTV (Showstopper, upgraded many times)
Marantz Receiver
Panasonic RP-91 DVD Player (not that it matters)
The list of PC Parts that I think I'll need:
P3 or P4 Motherboard
CDROM and/or DVD ROM and/or CD-RW
Floppy drive, for nostalgia
512 Meg of RAM
P3 or P4 CPU, 1Ghz or so
2 120 gig IDE hard drives
Case, fan, powersupply
Wireless keyboard and mouse (?!)
Windows 2000 or XP
What I'm looking to do is to build the PC from scratch, put a HiPix in it, and hide it behind the TV. I want to be able to record HD, and also to watch/record things OTA while the ReplayTV is recording from Dish, especially hockey games. My biggest limitation is that this stuff is in the living room, not a home theater room, so aesthetics are important. For instance, I can't have a PC monitor hooked up to this PC (see below).
My questions are:
1) Do I need a video card? From diagrams I'm looking at, I can just use the VGA or Component output from the HiPix to plug into the TV, which will allow me to use the software as well as perform the needed Windows functions right on the TV. Does this sound right? Other cards I looked at involved a what looked like a passthrough cable from the video card, to the HD card, to the TV.
2) Should I get anything else for the PC itself? Since it's Windows, I'm guessing that I'll need the keyboard and mouse, but that I can hide them away for basic operation via the remote or a universal with Girder. Any wireless keyboard/mouse suggestions?
3) Am I missing anything else in my plan? I want to commit to the HiPix tomorrow, but I don't want to start this process and realize that I might have overlooked a component that would make this thing turn into an eyesore, or a sore arm from my wife beating on it.
Thanks for any hints, suggestions, flames, and advice!
Roddie
jon_rhees
10-12-02, 03:51 PM
roddie,
>Do I need a video card?
Yes and No. The HDTV cards on the market do not act as a PC display adapter. As such, you'll need *some* video card on your PC or Windows OS will refuse to operate. In addition, you *will* need to hook the computer to a computer-monitor *for a time* to set everything up. However, since the video card won't be used for normal use, you can put in basically any cheapo card if you like. Something to consider, though, is that *if* your Mits TV can accept VGA-style RGB natively, then getting a video card that can output in a HDTV-compliant (1080i or 480p) resolution (most will) gets you Windows Desktop on your TV for almost no additional cost (only the $$ of the video card). If, on the other hand, your TV only accepts component HD (YPrPb), then you'd have to buy an expensive card with component out (Radeon DV) or an external transcoder -- the bottom line is you still need to remember this is a PC, and times will likely arise that you'll need to see the Windows Desktop to accomplish what you need. This either means you pass-thru the video card's output thru the video card to your TV or you have an external monitor handy for those occasions.
I have a dedicated machine hooked to my TV which is set up to boot right to the HiPix app. Since I don't use it for other junk, its extremely stable. If it starts acting funny (about one every other month), I simply power it off and back on. *but* I'm changing the HiPix SW often (I'm a developer) so when I need to do that, I either access the PC via a network or need to look at the Windows Desktop.
With that said, you can almost negate the need for desktop visibility if you network the PC and then just access the desktop with free (VNC) or retail remote PC apps. Many do this.
>Should I get anything else for the PC itself?
You *will* need a keyboard and mouse, for both the reasons above and also because your PC will refuse to run without a kb.
-Jon
well, you could do without a keyboard and a mouse and to choose to "Ignore all errors" in the bios, but a wireless KB with a built in mouse is only about $30, so why not.
Jim
Jon, BTW, I found out what was happening on my directory not recording in the right place. When I originally scheduled the recording to take place the directory was still at the default location and I changed it to my normal directory after that was set up to record, so no matter what I did it always recorded in the default directory. Today when I set up another show to record, my default dir was the new one so it recorded in the correct place.
On another topic, sometimes when my computer wakes up from Hibernation it doesn't allow the HiPix app to run, the scheduling agent works, but their is an error that I have to click OK on to allow the HiPix app to run, next time I get it, I will notify you.
Jim
I would really like to eliminate one of my SP/DIF cables going to my receiver. What is the current status of the AC3 soundcard tweak? Do you still have to make some reg tweaks to get this to work? The last thing I was playing with under audio settings was the PCM/DirectSound drop down list. Now when I try to start HiPix I keep getting "HiPix DTV-200 Application has encountered a problem and needs to close." I just installed 3.5 a day or two ago and haven't had this problem until I made the audio changes.
Any ideas?
Dan.
OK, now I just want HiPix to work again. No matter what I do I'm getting the "HiPix DTV-200 Application has encountered a problem...". I have run the hipixCleaner, uninstalled the drivers, deleted any HiPix inf, sys, and pnf files from system folders, and deleted the HiPix DTV-200 directory. I reinstalled the 3.0.4.0 drivers, rebooted, installed HiPix 3.5, rebooted, and still get the error. Arrrhhh!!!!
Is there something else that needs to be removed from the registry that the hipixCleaner possibly missed?
The last thing I changed before it stopped working was change the audio PCM drop down list.
Dan.
donecker
10-13-02, 02:13 PM
This stuff is great. When you compare the AVS 3.5 Hipix software with the original Hipix features (or with the WinTV-HD now stashed in my closet), the improvement is miraculous.
That said, here's a coupla dumb questions. What's the button or key to push for capturing screenshots? And, where's that hipix cleaner program I keep reading about? Sorry in advance if I should have found this elsewhere. I did look FWIW.
Gar
Originally posted by ccclapp
A quick follow-up:
1a. Is the idea of the preview window to allow less-than-full-screen viewing of the video? If so, that would be useful and I would like to figure out how to do that.
3b. I do not use the VOP either, but I do select the box marked "Use Native Resolution". Is this correct, or are you saying none of this matters if one has not selected VOP?
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1a. Yes, I believe that's the reasoning behind it.
3b. I believe Use Native Resolution means that the preview window will be sized to whatever your current windows resolution is.
An update on my ABC channel mapping problems in Denver:
I remapped the digital channels to their analog counterparts, and they all work except for my ABC station. When I mapped 17 (digital) to 7 (analog), I was receiving the signal, according to the signal meter, but there was no audio, and the picture was a still frame of the last frame that was in the buffer. This is exactly what happens when I try to record from a timer set up through TitanTV. If it matters, the data listed next to the channel listing is 0x21, 0x24, as opposed to the other channels in my listing which are 0x11, 0x14. Would this make a difference?
Anyway, in the meantime, I have gone though and manually set up weekly timers for all the ABC shows that I want to record. I would like to resolve this issue, though, as I'm currently talking to the ABC station engineer about other issues. If this is something that's on their end, I'd like to talk to him about it as well.
Jon - last week I said that I couldn't get out of the Files Now Playing overlay screen. Well, pressing the ESC key did work, so sorry about that one :) I wasn't aware that the ESC key would do that.
I'm also having an intermittent issue that I can't for life of me get to happen when I try to make it happen. I have my audio set to SPDIF only. Sometimes (not all of the time) when the hipix is recording from a set timer and I'm watching something else on one of my other boxes, I switch over to the hipix (also switching my receiver audio source and input), and there is no audio being sent out of the hipix. The program is recording, and when I later go back to play the recording, the audio did get recorded, and is there, but I don't hear the audio during the recording process. Problem is that it's intermittent, so I've got more testing to do to try to track this one down.
Gordon Lee
10-13-02, 04:19 PM
Hi, Michael,
The v3.5 works very well.
Just wonder if the 'Analog(NTSC) Capture) function will
be added to next version soon (to raw AVI or any MPEG
format, even to MPEG1 as MYHD does). Install another
card for VHS/S-VHS capture will get lots of configuration
and resource problem for the computer.
Regards,
euphobot
10-13-02, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by donecker
the button or key to push for capturing screenshots? And, where's that hipix cleaner program I keep reading about?
see the hot keys tab in setup fpr the current capture bttn. mine is Alt- I
the windows OS will let you capture to clip board with keys alt-PrtScr, CTL-prtscr, or shift prtscr
hipixCleaner.exe in my HiPix DTV-200 directoy cleans registry settings for the driver.
aviators99
10-13-02, 07:44 PM
Hi guys,
I don't know what happened...everything was working pretty well before I installed 3.5, and now I can't get playback to work any more. Everything stutters horribly (video and audio). I tried removing everything and running cleanup and re-installing but it didn't help. I'm running Windows ME on an Athelon 1.2ghz, SP/DIF only.
Thanks in advance for any ideas..
Ron
jmmesch
10-13-02, 08:45 PM
Hi all,
As a recorder of DTV, and a player of DTV and NTSC, my HiPix card is fine, having started with ver 2.3, then 3.0, then 3.1, and now 3.5. Yet, I have a sound problem using the DVD add-on/Zoom Player combo. I get no HiPix sound as I explain:
First, a bit about the audio setup:For the HiPix sound I use the extension card, and get AC-3 sound from the SPDIF connector, and analog sound from its analog port via a 1/8" to L/R cable both going through Video 4 on my receiver along with the component video. I also have a sound card, too, through which the PC sends music from MusicMatch Jukebox out to the CD input of my receiver. The audio out from the sound card uses a cute "splitter" called the MP3 Adapter, that also lets the PC have PC speakers directly connected, while its 25' foot cord goes to CD in as stated. When I use the HiPix tuner, I turn off the PC speakers, letting my receiver and main speakers do the work.
The problem is that when using Zoom Player, the sound only comes from my PC speakers, and is apparently not routed to the receiver, like the video is.
I just added the DVD burner to the system, and it is"jumped" to the sound card like you'd expect. Did I do this wrong? Should the DVD burner be jumped to the HiPix? If so, how?
All I want is for the DVD sound to come out the HiPix sound lines, and not just the sound card lines. The HiPix doesn't do this, so why when playing a DVD does it?
Any help will be gratefully appreciated. Thanks.
donecker
10-13-02, 08:49 PM
euphobot, thanks * 2. everything working. did I mention that this stuff is really great?
jmmesch
Do what was suggested to me in a prior thread and remove ALL audio cables from the soundcard in your PC (nothing from the DVD drive or HiPix) and choose SPDIF only. It worked for me.
Jim
I am running the 3.5 drivers and WinXP(no sp1) and when my computer wakes from hibernation and the HiPix app was running when it went to sleep I get the error that I showed in the attached picture. If the app is not running and only the Meerkat scheduler is, I do not get this error, I just have to click OK and it runs the app fine.
Any Ideas?
Jim
jon_rhees
10-14-02, 12:41 AM
Originally posted by vfrjim
I am running the 3.5 drivers and WinXP(no sp1) and when my computer wakes from hibernation and the HiPix app was running when it went to sleep I get the error that I showed in the attached picture. If the app is not running and only the Meerkat scheduler is, I do not get this error, I just have to click OK and it runs the app fine.
Any Ideas?
Jim
Jim,
I'll se if I can duplicate. I believe what is happening is the Meerkat app is trying to start up the HiPix app and isn't getting a timely enough response (I would assume you see this error shortly after coming out of Hibernation but before the HiPix app shows up, right?)
-Jon
jmmesch
10-14-02, 01:22 AM
Originally posted by vfrjim
jmmesch
Do what was suggested to me in a prior thread and remove ALL audio cables from the soundcard in your PC (nothing from the DVD drive or HiPix) and choose SPDIF only. It worked for me.
Jim
To Jim, as in vfrjim (does the VFR mean, like, the Honda? - I have a Bandit 12A! I also used to ride with a Jim who had a VFR):
I appreciate any help, so please don't take this wrong. I know my way around a computer fairly well, and I can't rely on hearsay alone (at least point to the thread(s) for me to see, too).
If you mean remove all outgoing audio cables, no can do, I'll lose the ability to play music from the PC through my AV receiver, too. Now, if you mean remove all audio cables in to the sound card (as in the jumper from the DVD burner to the sound card), I can try that.
As it is, there are NO cables that run from the HiPix to the sound card, they all run 'tween the HiPix and its expansion card. Still, the TV audio from the HiPix finds its way to the receiver and to its large speakers by the jumpers to the expansion card and its outputs, and through the PC to the sound card and to the PC speakers, too (I suppose through the motherboard).
So maybe I do need to remove the DVD-burner-to-sound-card jumper cable. Still, I'd like to hear from someone who knows what to do, before I disassemble the machine.
Looking forward to your reply, or anyone else's.
Jordan
jmmesch
Now, if you mean remove all audio cables in to the sound card (as in the jumper from the DVD burner to the sound card), I can try that
Yep, thats what I meant, it's funny how the analog signal wants to be played over the SPDIF eventhough both signals may be present.
Yep, I love my VFR :) Bandit is a kikass bike too, I am a honda-addict :)
Jon, just to ask another question about this error. With this latest version(3.5), you still have to manually add the HiPix executable in the startup folder so it starts with windows, correct? It won't start automatically after it is installed, am I correct? Cause that is what I did after installing the latest version.
Jim
OK, assuming that the last thing I changed in the HiPix setup broke my installation, is there a way to completely clean out the registry for any HiPix remnants? I have run the hipixCleaner.exe app, but I still find many references to "HiPixDTV200.HiPixControl". Where do the config settings get stored? Especially the audio preference? Anyone? Otherwise my next step is to reformat. :(
Dan.
Have you fix the PID 0x25 audio problem with this new release?
Jon, any fix on my problem?
Thanks,
Jim
What's the difference between broadcasting the PIDs at 0x11 and 0x14 vs 0x21 and 0x24? All if the Denver stations except ABC are at 0x11 and 0x14, while ABC (my problem station) are at 0x21 and 0x24. What are PIDs anyway?
OK, I've got issues. Any suggestions on this?
1. I use to have version 2.3
2. I just updated to version 3.5 and restarted
3. Everything seemed to work great!!
4. I downloaded version 3.51 to my desktop and then dragged it into the hipix folder replacing the existing exe file.
5. Now when I click on full screen I get a solid white screen on my projector but I hear sound
6. I went back into the set up and noticed all resolutions were checked, since I only had my last version set to 1080i I unchecked all others thinking that might be why the white screen. I clicked apply and then the audio began cutting out every second or so and it didn't get rid of the white screen.
7. I click on the other 16:9 rez and the audio came back without cutting out but the screen is still white.
Does anyone know what I did wrong? I've been reading through all the posts and didn't find anything. Sorry if this is a repeat. Should I go back to version 3.5?
Jeremy
Jeremy, please go into the HiPix setup under the "HDTV" tab and change the display type from "YPbPr" to "RGB". Then, restart the app. Somehow that got changed during your upgrade to version 3.5x.
That what I thought but it is on RGB.
jrader, the only other possibility that I can think of is that you weren't able to update your driver or "mqtvcom.dll" successfully. Can you check your driver "HiPixDTV.sys" and "mqtvcom.dll" versions and post them here?
OK, time for a problem report. Using 3.5.1 on an Intel 815 MB/Intel PIII 1 ghz processor. W2K OS.
Scheduled programs recorded as expected between 8 and 10 PM. Shortly after 10, I opened HiPix, clicked on File, selected Jag. Instead of starting to play immediately as usually happens, indicator showed "Stop". Clicking on Play, Pause, Stop, Tuner, or any other buttons, got no response. Tried to close HiPix intending to restart it, instead got a spontaneous reboot of the computer. This behavior has happened 3 times now, always after a scheduled recording has completed.
After the reboot, I restarted HiPix, selected the file, and it's playing just fine now, happiily skipping commercials. Any thoughts?
jon_rhees
10-16-02, 01:34 AM
MaryH,
Was Hipix closed after the recordings completed, or was it suspended to tray? What OS? How specifically (which buttons did you use, what specific file did you choose, etc.) did you pick a file to begin playback?
-Jon
Originally posted by jon_rhees
Was Hipix closed after the recordings completed, or was it suspended to tray? What OS? How specifically (which buttons did you use, what specific file did you choose, etc.) did you pick a file to begin playback? -Jon
Hipix was completely closed. (OT: If I set it to suspend to tray, I still get a stuttering version of the audio track coming through while trying to use the HTPC for other purposes. Sound is set on PCM and DirectSound. I'm only using SPDIF, but had heard of problems with that setting.) Not using VIP or VOP.
OS is W2K. As soon as Hipix opened and completed initialization, I clicked on "File", opened the folder for JAG, selected the first file, clicked OK. As I described, instead of beginning to play right away, HiPix locked up and would not respond to any buttons. When I clicked on the Power button, that's when the computer rebooted itself.
As I said, this same behavior has happened 3 times now in the last couple of days. Disconcerting, to say the least. <grin>
mrjones1354
10-16-02, 02:26 AM
I cannot seem to load the driver for the Hipix. I just received the card today, and have tried to use the version on the CD as well as the most recent verion from a few days ago. Per the section of the users manual "Verification of successful device driver installation (Windows 98 SE only)", I get this, "The device loader(s) for this device could not load the device driver. (Code 2.)". Any suggestions? Thanks!
lpollis
10-16-02, 11:12 AM
Has anyone sucessfully turned on VOP? I tried to last night but I get nothing on NTSC (I get a black window); On ATSC I get an out-of-sync screen. Any thoughts? I have tried various settings for VOP Mode and I get a GPF on anything but Weave Mode 30. I have to go to the registry and reset the value to 1 to recover.
By the way, for Steely, if you are getting the "...encountered a problem and must close" popup, try fiddleing with the registry settings. (Do proper backups first and protect yourself!) I found the Init settings under HKEY_Current_User|software|VB and VBA Program Settings|HiPix DTV-200|Init. You might want to print that section for reference.
Lp
lpollis: Thanks for the suggestion. I was fiddleing with the registy, but could not get it to work. I ended up reformatting my HTPC. Everything is back up and running now. :) At least I got to upgrade my Promise drivers in the process. :) Bootime is much faster now.
Dan.
Gordon Lee
10-16-02, 01:28 PM
Just wonder if the 'Analog(NTSC) Capture) function will
be added to next version soon (to raw AVI or any MPEG
format, even to MPEG1 as MYHD does). To install another
card for VHS/S-VHS capture will get lots of configuration
and resource problem for the computer.
Gordon Lee, our primary focus is in HDTV functionality, not NTSC. Many HiPix users (such as myself) already have a dedicated analog capture card on the same machine which will allow you to do simultaneous NTSC/ATSC recording/playback completely independant of each other. The cost of an analog capture card can be as little as $50. Plus, you will have Dscaler compatibility.
daveski
10-16-02, 02:15 PM
Upgraded to new version of HiPix and old problem I had came back.
When I press DVHS button it starts my JVC 30k. Display says Synchronizing...play...synchronizing... HiPix hang up. I have to press
ctrl-alt-del to close it. I have no problem recording with DVHS Tools.
I have 1.7 Mhz P4 with 512 Mb of RDRAM, Adaptec 4300 fire-wire adapter and HiPix card. :(
JustMike
10-16-02, 11:14 PM
Greetings,
WinXP Pro.
I was advised over in the 3.5 thread to try defragmenting my disk to fix a playback glitch that happened on file boundaries. It seems to have worked from preliminary testing.
However, I have a simple question. I left the XP built-in defragmenter (in the disk's Properties->Tools panel) running overnight (it took a long time). Just now, I went to look in and make sure Enterprise had started recording. It hadn't. I fired up the display and found that there was a dialog on screen saying that the defragmentation was complete <OK>. I clicked OK, and HiPix launched in the background and immediately started recording Enterprise. I missed the opening scene.
The question is: Is this a Windows problem that prevented HiPix from launching, or a HiPix problem? The defragmentation had been done for hours, but I hadn't used the PC, and therefore hadn't realized that there was a dialog on screen.
If it's a Windows problem, well, I guess I understand. If it's a HiPix problem/limitation, I'd like to request that it be fixed/changed so that having a modal dialog on screen doesn't prevent a recording.
Thanks!
Originally posted by Mary H
OK, time for a problem report. Using 3.5.1 on an Intel 815 MB/Intel PIII 1 ghz processor. W2K OS.
Scheduled programs recorded as expected between 8 and 10 PM. Shortly after 10, I opened HiPix, clicked on File, selected Jag. Instead of starting to play immediately as usually happens, indicator showed "Stop". Clicking on Play, Pause, Stop, Tuner, or any other buttons, got no response. Tried to close HiPix intending to restart it, instead got a spontaneous reboot of the computer. This behavior has happened 3 times now, always after a scheduled recording has completed. After the reboot, I restarted HiPix, selected the file, and it's playing just fine now, happiily skipping commercials. Any thoughts?
Update -- just had exactly the same thing happen again, after West Wing finished recording.
This may be the wrong place for me to post this, but I'm thinking about picking up the HiPix card and I had a couple of questions first, all technical and if some of these features aren't supported I'd like to know if they are posibilities in the future.
First, are the AVS folks who are making the code chages employees of telemann?
Is the hipix software open source? I'm not sure how much of this could be public, but it would be nice. For others to add features.
Along with using the HiPix to record OTA HDTV I was hoping to use the card to record video from a dss box (directv) via the svideo connector. As you can guess, SD is all I'm looking to record since I'd be using s-video.
Can you record off the svideo input? This would also require integration of the dss epg data and a way to send a serial or IR command to the dss receiver to change channels. This might be as simple as adding this feature to the hipix software. There is always the option of adding a command line to execute the channel change.
I've got a Radeon 8500 AIW which I think would be useless if the HiPix card could capture dss output.
Thank
No, the HiPix does not capture DSS via s-video input for time shifting, it is for ATSC playback/recording only. It will accept the input, but for viewing purposes only.
jim
I just got a new Hipix card but can't get any ATSC signal at all.
Could it be a problem with the card I received? NTSC through cable or antenna work fine but I get a 0 signal for atsc. Even got this spiffy looking double bowtie thing from Radio shack and nothing.
jon_rhees
10-17-02, 10:55 AM
Originally posted by Mary H
Update -- just had exactly the same thing happen again, after West Wing finished recording.
Mary H,
Do you think if you scheduled some short, say, 1 minute scheduled recordings, you could duplicate this problem within 20 minutes or so? If so, would you be willing to do some regression testing?
-Jon
jon_rhees
10-17-02, 11:01 AM
Originally posted by Domat
I just got a new Hipix card but can't get any ATSC signal at all.
Could it be a problem with the card I received? NTSC through cable or antenna work fine but I get a 0 signal for atsc. Even got this spiffy looking double bowtie thing from Radio shack and nothing.
Domat,
A couple of ???'s:
1. Which antenna connector are you using. For ATSC you *must* use the one closest to the center of the card (closest to the VGA connector).
2. Do you see any signal bars (yellow bars on the HiPix control panel on the Windows desktop)
3. If you *do* see signal bars, have you gone to Setup->Program->Auto Add Channels?
-Jon
Originally posted by jon_rhees
Mary H,
Do you think if you scheduled some short, say, 1 minute scheduled recordings, you could duplicate this problem within 20 minutes or so? If so, would you be willing to do some regression testing? -Jon
Sure, I'd be happy to help any way I can. I'm at work now, but will be online at home this evening after about 8 PM PDT.
Originally posted by jon_rhees
Domat,
A couple of ???'s:
1. Which antenna connector are you using. For ATSC you *must* use the one closest to the center of the card (closest to the VGA connector).
2. Do you see any signal bars (yellow bars on the HiPix control panel on the Windows desktop)
3. If you *do* see signal bars, have you gone to Setup->Program->Auto Add Channels?
-Jon
running the auto add channel did it. Thanks.
OK I am too getting the same "Run-time error '6': Overflow" as Dennis is. And I see no one has told him how to fix it yet.
Like Dennis I have completely removed and re-installed Hipix. I have also found out when it did work, right after a timed recording it would crash. The .ts files would be there but the skip file would be empty.
I also notice that there is no Hipix listed in the ADD\REMOVE section of the CONTROL PANEL
jon_rhees
10-17-02, 11:55 PM
Originally posted by erdc
OK I am too getting the same "Run-time error '6': Overflow" as Dennis is. And I see no one has told him how to fix it yet.
Like Dennis I have completely removed and re-installed Hipix. I have also found out when it did work, right after a timed recording it would crash. The .ts files would be there but the skip file would be empty.
I also notice that there is no Hipix listed in the ADD\REMOVE section of the CONTROL PANEL
erdc,
When exactly do you get the Overflow error?
-Jon
jon_rhees
10-18-02, 10:31 AM
erdc,
-When you launch a)HiPix or b)Meerkat (i.e., is the runtime err say HiPix or Meerkat?
-What OS?
-Can you PM me w/an email addr?
-Jon
If you guys have any remaining outstanding issues which are consistent and reproducable, now is the time to help Jon reproduce these problems if you want them fixed. The more thorough and specific your feedback is, the quicker it can be fixed.
Jon et al,
Thanks for the reply on page 2 regarding my HTPC requirements.
I've gone ahead and ordered a HiPix, and have also obtained a case, P4 2.0A, cordless keyboard/mouse, and have decided on an Asus P4PE motherboard.
I'm still a little iffy on what I'll need for video. My TV has a VGA input, but it's limited to only 640x480, which probably won't look very good (though it's surely workable). I've almost decided on the Radeon 8500, because it will do the HD resolutions to drive the TV, but I'm still a little confused on how the hookup will be and what I'll need to accomplish it.
[dumb question mode]
The TV has only one set of DTV inputs (Y-Pb-Pr, RCA), which I'm assuming the HiPix would plug in to. How would I accomplish feeding both the Radeon and the HiPix into the DTV input so that I could get a full Windows desktop when I needed it? Is this even possible? What kind of cables or transcoder would I need? Any suggestions on brand or where to purchase? What kind of cables come with the HiPix?
[/dumb question mode]
Thanks for any assistance!
Roddie
ragamuffin
10-18-02, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by roddie
The TV has only one set of DTV inputs (Y-Pb-Pr, RCA), which I'm assuming the HiPix would plug in to. How would I accomplish feeding both the Radeon and the HiPix into the DTV input so that I could get a full Windows desktop when I needed it? Is this even possible? What kind of cables or transcoder would I need? Any suggestions on brand or where to purchase? What kind of cables come with the HiPix?
The Hipix comes with a loopback cable. With this cable you take RGB/VGA out of the Radeon into the HiPix. Your display then plugs into the HiPix. The HiPix software allows you to switch dynamically between whichever source you desire for your display... the PC Radeon, or the HiPix sourced display information (ATSC, NTSC, File Playback, SVHS, Composite, etc.)
The HiPix is software configurable for YPrPb or RGB mode output. Set your display to RGB, and then the HiPix and Radeon will drive your display via RGB. Or you can use a standard PC VGA monitor as well to test with.
The real question you'll need to address is the sync resolutions of your display. It will obviously do DTV resolutions natively, and if that is all it does, you'll need PowerStrip software to setup your Radeon to provide horizontal and veritical timings that are DTV compatible. See this forum via "search" for more info on PowerStrip and specific Radeon settings.
If you desire to drive your display via YPrPb, then you would also need a transcoder to convert the Radeon RGB to YPrPb before feeding this to the HiPix loopback... but this doesn't appear to be necessary for your setup.
The HiPix is software configurable for YPrPb or RGB mode output. Set your display to RGB, and then the HiPix and Radeon will drive your display via RGB.
This sounds like the way to go - Is there a visible difference between RGB and YPrPb? I know my TV does have that setting.
Which cable would go from the HiPix to the TV RCA inputs? Does this cable come with the HiPix? Can I use this same cable to go direct from the Radeon to the TV for the software installation?
you'll need PowerStrip software to setup your Radeon to provide horizontal and veritical timings that are DTV compatible. See this forum via "search" for more info on PowerStrip and specific Radeon settings.
I already counted on having to use PowerStrip (new beta today, I see), so I guess I was half-way there.
Thanks for the tips, ragamuffin. It's all becoming clearer now.
Roddie
ragamuffin
10-18-02, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by roddie
Which cable would go from the HiPix to the TV RCA inputs? Does this cable come with the HiPix? Can I use this same cable to go direct from the Radeon to the TV for the software installation?
The HiPix has a "yellow" RCA composite output that dumbs down the HiPix source output for a NTSC monitor. No this cable is not included with the HiPix. This will allow you to see HiPix sourced content on any display... new DTV or old TV.
I don't have a Radeon... so I'm not familiar with it's outputs. But you should be able to setup your PC for 640x480 RGB output (you mention previously that your display is capable of this) and plug your Radeon VGA/RGB output directly into your display. Then install your sofwtare. If the Radeon supports an RCA composite output, then I guess you could use that too...
Once you get your PowerStrip timings down properly, and your HiPix loopback cable in place... You can toggle via the HiPix to your desktop and then do anything you want on your PC desktop.
ragamuffin
10-18-02, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by roddie
Is there a visible difference between RGB and YPrPb? I know my TV does have that setting.
I can't tell the difference between them... I'm sure someone else on this forum would be able to give you the technical reason as to why one might be superior to the other... but the casual user won't see a difference.
The HiPix has a "yellow" RCA composite output that dumbs down the HiPix source output for a NTSC monitor. No this cable is not included with the HiPix. This will allow you to see HiPix sourced content on any display... new DTV or old TV.
Oops - I meant that my TV's RGB inputs (5 of them) have RCA connectors, not that I wanted a composite connection.
From what I can tell, I'm going to need to buy a cable to go from the HiPix output to the RGB inputs on the TV. Sound right? Any suggestions?
hmoazed
10-18-02, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by roddie
Oops - I meant that my TV's RGB inputs (5 of them) have RCA connectors, not that I wanted a composite connection.
From what I can tell, I'm going to need to buy a cable to go from the HiPix output to the RGB inputs on the TV. Sound right? Any suggestions?
What you probably need is "HD15-M to (three or five) RCA-M". Search web under "RGB Component cable" or "VGA Component Cable".
With the cables that have five RCA connectors, just ignore the extra two (use only red, green, and blue).
Regards,
Moaz
ragamuffin
10-18-02, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by roddie
Oops - I meant that my TV's RGB inputs (5 of them) have RCA connectors, not that I wanted a composite connection.
From what I can tell, I'm going to need to buy a cable to go from the HiPix output to the RGB inputs on the TV. Sound right? Any suggestions?
DOH! :D
No the HiPix doesn't include this cable...
http://store.yahoo.com/bettercablesdotcom/1met328feetv1.html
This link will provide what you need. And they're an AVS Forum sponsor!
This cable has BNC ends... you'll need to pickup some BNC to RCA adaptors as well (I got mine at RatShack). You only need three, whether you run RGB or YPrPB, you hookup RED-to-RED, GREEN-to-GREEN, and BLUE-to-BLUE.
You'll also need an audio cable from your HiPix to your audio system. HiPix provides a SPDIF RCA output, and a 1/8" stereo jack for line level output (although HiPix can vary the volume on this output... it's not fixed).
Jon - I PM'd you about testing the "losing audio problem when timer recording and channel changing" problem. Do you still need help with testing? I'm available.
Mark, I just tested for Jon. His updated EXE works for me! It probably wouldn't hurt for you to try it as well:
EDIT: Removed link since it's not necessary anymore.
jon_rhees
10-18-02, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by markdl
Jon - I PM'd you about testing the "losing audio problem when timer recording and channel changing" problem. Do you still need help with testing? I'm available.
Mark,
I sent you a test app yesterday with a potential fix, and I just sent you another email with a newer version. Please follow the instructions in the new email and verify that this is indeed fixed.
-Jon
EDIT: PS - The app I just emailed you is newer (and better) than the one Michael posted :)
-Jon
jon_rhees, you have PMs! And I only thought the lady AVSers would get such a thing:)
Bogney Baux
10-18-02, 04:59 PM
Jon, I also did not receive the test file yesterday (assuming you sent it to me).
I just tried the file that mkanet posted. It cures the no audio problem. It also cures the transfer to DVHS problem. Thank you.
What you probably need is "HD15-M to (three or five) RCA-M". Search web under "RGB Component cable" or "VGA Component Cable".
With the cables that have five RCA connectors, just ignore the extra two (use only red, green, and blue).
Thanks, ragamuffin and Moaz - You've pretty much answered all of my questions.
Curious - My TV has five RCA connectors for the DTV input. R, G, B, and two sync. Is that what the other two connectors on this cable would be for? The manual says "do not connect if DTV receiver uses 'Sync On Green'," is this the case for the HiPix?
Thanks again!
ragamuffin
10-18-02, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by roddie
My TV has five RCA connectors for the DTV input. R, G, B, and two sync. Is that what the other two connectors on this cable would be for? The manual says "do not connect if DTV receiver uses 'Sync On Green'," is this the case for the HiPix?
Yes the BLACK and WHITE are for horizontal and vertical sync.... and are not necesary for the HiPix because it does indeed provide sync on GREEN.
jmmesch
10-18-02, 09:01 PM
I was using Girder 3.1 when using HiPix 3.1 (and earlier) and it let me use the remote for all its functionality. Now, using HiPix 3.5, volume + gives me just that, no matter how many times I press the vol + button during playback. I just want it to do skip 15 sec. and 1 minute when I press 1X or 2.
Also, Girder comes up when I start up, but is not always enabled like it used to be. If I exit HiPix when I find Girder not-enabled, then enable Girder and restart HiPix, no change occurs.
Does anyone else have this problem? Do I need a new version of Girder? If so, where is it available?
Maybe my settings are off, but I don't think so. The HiPix is set to use the remote, and vol + makes the volume display appear, and vol - makes it show the display and shows it going down, even though through my receiver, it doesn't. This shows the remote is working.
The problem is that Girder isn't tieing in like it used to and I want it back. Please help.
jon_rhees
10-19-02, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by roddie
Thanks, ragamuffin and Moaz - You've pretty much answered all of my questions.
Curious - My TV has five RCA connectors for the DTV input. R, G, B, and two sync. Is that what the other two connectors on this cable would be for? The manual says "do not connect if DTV receiver uses 'Sync On Green'," is this the case for the HiPix?
Thanks again!
Roddie,
*IF*, however, you find that your TV's 5 connectors (when in RGB mode) allow decent RGB resolutions, then you'll want to set your HiPix to RGB mode, connect all 5 connections, and pass your video card thru the HiPix. This way, everything will operate RGB and you won't have to deal with multiple inputs.
-Jon
Jon,
*IF*, however, you find that your TV's 5 connectors (when in RGB mode) allow decent RGB resolutions, then you'll want to set your HiPix to RGB mode, connect all 5 connections, and pass your video card thru the HiPix. This way, everything will operate RGB and you won't have to deal with multiple inputs.
I think that's the plan. I ordered a cable tonight from Digital Connection that is DB15 -> 5-RCA, so I'm ready on the cabling front.
I haven't seen anything anywhere which suggests that RGB is better or worse than YPbPr, and I would love to actually have a nice hi-res desktop on the TV if I'm gonna need to switch to WinAMP or something to play MP3s through my system (hint hint hint). ;)
Roddie
WishIdInventedTivo
10-19-02, 01:49 AM
Originally posted by jmmesch
I was using Girder 3.1 when using HiPix 3.1 (and earlier) and it let me use the remote for all its functionality. Now, using HiPix 3.5, volume + gives me just that, no matter how many times I press the vol + button during playback. I just want it to do skip 15 sec. and 1 minute when I press 1X or 2.
Also, Girder comes up when I start up, but is not always enabled like it used to be. If I exit HiPix when I find Girder not-enabled, then enable Girder and restart HiPix, no change occurs.
Does anyone else have this problem? Do I need a new version of Girder? If so, where is it available?
Maybe my settings are off, but I don't think so. The HiPix is set to use the remote, and vol + makes the volume display appear, and vol - makes it show the display and shows it going down, even though through my receiver, it doesn't. This shows the remote is working.
The problem is that Girder isn't tieing in like it used to and I want it back. Please help.
Some of the transport forward/backward hotkeys were eliminated in 3.5. The maximum jump forward/backwards is now 10 minutes. There are also a couple of hotkeys for the new features. I was able to use my 3.1 Girder file without breaking anything, but I have the HiPix volume set to work best with my A/V equipment so it is not used by Girder. Maybe you are sending commands that now perform some other function?
I updated my Girder file for HiPix 3.5 and it continued to work fine. However I did experience a problem when I upgraded to HiPix 3.5.1. Jon made some updates to correct the Girder "targets" that don't work correctly for the file and scheduled recordings lists. In those screens I've always had to send Girder commands (right arrow, left arrow, up arrow, down arrow) to the foreground instead of specific targets. I modified my Girder file to also use targets for these HiPix lists and my system was an absolute mess and had to go back to 3.5. HiPix was not working logically - it was really wierd. Tonight I tried going up to HiPix 3.5.1 again but this time did not update my Girder file to use targets for the pick list/sched recording screens and so far things seem to be working fine.
Here's what Girder should be using as the targets for everything except the file and scheduled recordings lists (for those check "send to foreground task" in Girder until Jon corrects this):
Name: HiPix DTV-200
Class Name: ThunderRT6FormDC
Executable: HIPIX DTV-200.EXE
Incidentally you will need to send HiPix an ESCape to close the file and scheduled recording lists. I've suggested to Jon that pressing the corresponding key (button) should close it thus not requiring us to program an ESCape button into our remotes.
I am using Girder 3.2.4 which is the latest production version available at www.girder.nl. Other than scheduling recordings via www.titantv.com from the HiPix PC itself via pcAnywhere I use my MX-500 remote control. It's so nice being able to delete recordings with the remote now!
ChrisW6ATV
10-19-02, 02:31 AM
Originally posted by jmmesch
The HiPix is set to use the remote, and
The problem is that Girder isn't tieing in like it used to and I want it back. Please help.
To use any of the "expanded function for HiPix remote control" Girder setups, you have to disable the remote control within the HiPix software.
In Oklahoma City, there are 3 Digital channels.
ATSC Setup->Program Tab showed.
27.3(27) 0x81/0x84
52.1(51) 0x31/0x34 KSBI SD 52.1(51)
52.2(51) 0x21/0x24 KSBI-HD 52.2(51)
I cannot get audio from 52.2 but other channels are ok and DTC-100 can get audio from all 3 channels including 52.2.
Please help.
HT
Timpanogos
10-19-02, 01:04 PM
Be aware that sometimes it is the station's fault that no sound appears. You can have the sound come and go and then be fine for weeks at a time. But it isn't always the HiPix's fault.
Originally posted by jon_rhees
Mark,
EDIT: PS - The app I just emailed you is newer (and better) than the one Michael posted :)
The app has worked for me flawlessly so far! Here's hoping that the problem is nailed! Thanks Jon.
sigma957
10-21-02, 05:29 PM
First of all, thanks to everyone on the Avs Hipix development team for all of your hard work.
Eveything works great, except that when I connect the Hipix card to my HDTV monitor, there is a significant amount of overscan. So much so, that the top and side portions of the display text at the top of the screen is cut off. When I view the same programs live through my DTC-100 there is noticeably less overscan. Is there someplace I can adjust this on the Hipix? I am using version 3.5 at the 1920x1080i setting, and my monitor is a Pioneer SD533HD5 RPTV. Thanks.
JustMike
10-21-02, 09:57 PM
Howdy,
I also had the Signal 6 Overflow problem bite me last Friday. I had Firefly and John Doe set to record back-to-back from KTVU. When I looked in on the machine afterward, I found the HiPix looking as if it had hung up about 29 minutes into a recording, with this signal dialog on screen. I was hopping mad! Anyway, I dismissed the dialog and I think the HiPix quit after that. I then started getting messages from Windows XP complaining that my video drive was full. Puzzling, there had been plenty of room.
Well, what happened was that Firefly recorded normally, and the skip file was written. Evidently this overflow happened 29 minutes into John Doe, which did however continue to record until the disk filled (over 2 hours of content later). I deleted the extraneous files from the end of the program and it played back just fine (but minus the skip file).
Obviously, if I hadn't checked on it (say, had I been out of town), then I would have missed any future recordings.
Also, any answers to my previous question about whether the WinXP "Disk defragmentation complete" dialog should block HiPix from launching for a timed recording?
Finally, a simple question: why is there a limit to the number of record events? Yes, 32 is a pretty big limit, but I still don't understand why there's *any* limit beyond disk/memory.
Thanks! I'm definitely enjoying the new version; the commercial skipping is a huge hit.
Originally posted by JustMike
I also had the Signal 6 Overflow problem bite me last Friday. I had Firefly and John Doe set to record back-to-back from KTVU. When I looked in on the machine afterward, I found the HiPix looking as if it had hung up about 29 minutes into a recording, with this signal dialog on screen. I was hopping mad! Anyway, I dismissed the dialog and I think the HiPix quit after that.
Very strange! I had almost exactly the same experience recording Firefly and John Doe last Friday on KTXL Sacramento. Like you, Firefly recorded OK. I noticed about 45 minutes into John Doe that I had that same overflow error message. I went ahead and closed HiPix, though, so didn't have the continuing recording and "out of space" result. Didn't get the last 15 minutes of John doe, though.
Coincidence? I wonder!..... or is it a conspiracy!!??
jon_rhees
10-21-02, 11:53 PM
Originally posted by Mary H
Very strange! I had almost exactly the same experience recording Firefly and John Doe last Friday on KTXL Sacramento. Like you, Firefly recorded OK. I noticed about 45 minutes into John Doe that I had that same overflow error message. I went ahead and closed HiPix, though, so didn't have the continuing recording and "out of space" result. Didn't get the last 15 minutes of John doe, though.
Coincidence? I wonder!..... or is it a conspiracy!!??
RATS! We've seen occasional instances of the 'Overflow' error occurring during recording. I've even had it happen to me last Sun. We're working to track this baby down -- but its pretty elusive.
In any case, a couple ??'s for you two:
1. Were you recording fullscreen or desktop or system tray mode?
2. Was commercial detection on? What detection mode & settings?
3. What Audio mode?
4. What OS?
5. etc.?
-Jon
Originally posted by jon_rhees
RATS! We've seen occasional instances of the 'Overflow' error occurring during recording. I've even had it happen to me last Sun. We're working to track this baby down -- but its pretty elusive. In any case, a couple ??'s for you two:
1. Were you recording fullscreen or desktop or system tray mode?
Desktop.
2. Was commercial detection on? What detection mode & settings?
Yes. AR-Based Auto Threshold -- 45 -- 10 -- 1.6 -- Turn into Skips.
3. What Audio mode?
PCM & Directsound
4. What OS?
Win 2000 Pro.
5. etc.?
I can't think of any etc's... Saturday I reformatted the hard drive and reinstalled everything. I'm pretty sure I was using 3.5.1 at that time.
Mary
Michael,
I have another basic install question. HiPix was running great on WIN ME and then I formated the C: (only, not the D: or E: where the various program files are) and installed WIN XP.
I installed XP Pro and when I looked at the Device Manager, I noticed that I have two unknown Multimedia Controllers and one unknown Multimedia Video Controller. I am assuming that the HiPix card is the Multimedia Video Controller.
I installed version 3.51 of the software, tried to update the device driver with no luck, I keep getting the error that the install was not complete because the wizard cannot find the necessary software. I point it directly to the directory where I have extracted the WIN XP drivers. I also tried the WIN 2000, and WIN ME drivers without any luck.
Can you help please? I would like to get my HTPC up and running again. Thanks.
Joe
JustMike
10-22-02, 02:28 AM
Hi Jon,
First off, let me just say nice job on the new app!
Originally posted by jon_rhees
1. Were you recording fullscreen or desktop or system tray mode?
The app was set to start automatically for the recording, and runs in a normal app window. It's not minimized to the tray or anything. I don't use a loopback cable or VOP/VIP.
2. Was commercial detection on? What detection mode & settings?
Yes. The exact settings that Michael posted pictures of a few days ago in the 3.5 thread, except with a 1.6-sec threshold.
3. What Audio mode?
SPDIF only
4. What OS?
Microsoft Windows XP Pro.
5. etc.?
1.1GHz PIII Tualatin on an Asus TUSL-2C MB with 256MB of RAM, recording to a Seagate 80GB drive using the built-in IDE controller. Practically nothing else installed on this system, except a Creative SoundBlaster Audigy and Girder.
Let me know if you need any other info!
Well, after scheduling my first recording when using VOP mode enabled, I think I will turn it off, I got a Runtime Error 52 and nothing was recorded. I never had this error before. No, I did not allow the VOP while recording, just VOP in general, when I checked my HTPC this am, the frozen VOP picture was shown on the desktop with the runtime error showing :(
Jim
Would I look real dumb if I asked what VIP and VOP were before I actually received my HiPix? :D
jon_rhees
10-22-02, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by vfrjim
Well, after scheduling my first recording when using VOP mode enabled, I think I will turn it off, I got a Runtime Error 52 and nothing was recorded. I never had this error before. No, I did not allow the VOP while recording, just VOP in general, when I checked my HTPC this am, the frozen VOP picture was shown on the desktop with the runtime error showing :(
Jim
vfrjim,
Since Runtime Error 52 is defined as 'Bad Filename', I would venture to say that this is unrelated to VOP. Did you make any other changes to your setup (change folder names, etc.)?
-Jon
No, the only thing I did was to enable the OSD for file selection and was able to delete the 3 files that I had in the folder and the main folder that I record in still exists, I will do some more recording to see if it does it again, it might be something not even related to the HiPix app, I will see.
Jim
HDTexas
10-22-02, 11:53 AM
Right now my biggest gripe is in regards to audio.. When changing channels on the HiPix if the station is not of sufficient strength for it to come in the HiPix sends a HORRIBLE static noise to the output/receiver hooked up.. So.. There you are watching HDTV, change channells, channel does nto come in and WHAM the audio goes CCCHKKKSSSSHHHCCCHHHKKKKSSS!!!!
i.e. it should not send any audio of the channel strength is not sufficient!
GaryHDTV
10-22-02, 11:59 AM
roddie, both are methods of providing a preview video window on your desktop. VIP requires a ribbon cable running from the HiPix to your graphics card IF it supports it. VOP pushes the data over the PCI bus and works with pretty much any graphics card.
roddie, both are methods of providing a preview video window on your desktop. VIP requires a ribbon cable running from the HiPix to your graphics card IF it supports it. VOP pushes the data over the PCI bus and works with pretty much any graphics card.
Thanks, Gary. I'm a little confused now since the HiPix will be the only thing plugging into the TV anyways, but I guess I'll figure it out when I get the card.
Thanks again!
WishIdInventedTivo
10-22-02, 01:13 PM
Originally posted by jmhays
Michael,
I have another basic install question. HiPix was running great on WIN ME and then I formated the C: (only, not the D: or E: where the various program files are) and installed WIN XP.
I installed XP Pro and when I looked at the Device Manager, I noticed that I have two unknown Multimedia Controllers and one unknown Multimedia Video Controller. I am assuming that the HiPix card is the Multimedia Video Controller.
I installed version 3.51 of the software, tried to update the device driver with no luck, I keep getting the error that the install was not complete because the wizard cannot find the necessary software. I point it directly to the directory where I have extracted the WIN XP drivers. I also tried the WIN 2000, and WIN ME drivers without any luck.
Try this.
* Close HiPix and the scheduler icon programs. They must not be running.
* Copy the HipixCleaner.exe utility to a safe place.
* Uninstall HiPix software. Make sure it's not in your Windows Startup groups.
* Delete the HiPix Program Files directory, if it still exists
* Run the HipixCleaner.exe utility
* Do a Windows "find" for the file name *HiPix*.* (with asterisks) everywhere on your system. If you find anything in or below the Windows directory delete it.
* Reboot
* Go into the device control panel and remove the unknown controllers
* Unzip the HiPix drivers to a safe place
* Run the Add/Trouble shoot hardware wizard following the HiPix driver install instructions for the drivers you just unzipped
* Reboot
* Check your device control panel. It should be clean. If so go ahead and install the HiPix application.
* Reboot
* You might get an error the first time you launch HiPix (many people seem to) but it's just the first time. You should be back up and can re-configure HiPix to your tastes. You will need to reschedule all your programs as HiPix stores all settings in the registry and you blew that away when you formatted your C: drive.
Don't install the 3.5.1 update until you're sure everything is working. And before you do, make a copy of the "HiPix DTV-200.exe" that it overwrites and backup these registry keys:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\HiPix]
and
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\VB and VBA Program Settings\HiPix DTV-200]
Jon,
It seems that one of my harddrives don't always get recognized in the bios, the reason it error'd out was that the drive must have not been recognized when the computer booted up from Hibernation so it could not find the path, I changed the default path to the other drive on the controller just in case and delayed bootup by 8 secs to give the drive a chance to spin up in time, looks like an RMA on that drive sometime soon.. New 120g WD too :( Thanks anyways.
Jim
JustMike
10-22-02, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by WishIdInventedTivo
Try this.
* Close HiPix and the scheduler icon programs. They must not be running.
* Copy the HipixCleaner.exe utility to a safe place.
* Uninstall HiPix software. Make sure it's not in your Windows Startup groups.
* Delete the HiPix Program Files directory, if it still exists
* Run the HipixCleaner.exe utility
* Do a Windows "find" for the file name *HiPix*.* (with asterisks) everywhere on your system. If you find anything in or below the Windows directory delete it.
* Reboot
* Go into the device control panel and remove the unknown controllers
* Unzip the HiPix drivers to a safe place
* Run the Add/Trouble shoot hardware wizard following the HiPix driver install instructions for the drivers you just unzipped
* Reboot
* Check your device control panel. It should be clean. If so go ahead and install the HiPix application.
* Reboot
* You might get an error the first time you launch HiPix (many people seem to) but it's just the first time. You should be back up and can re-configure HiPix to your tastes. You will need to reschedule all your programs as HiPix stores all settings in the registry and you blew that away when you formatted your C: drive.
Don't install the 3.5.1 update until you're sure everything is working. And before you do, make a copy of the "HiPix DTV-200.exe" that it overwrites and backup these registry keys:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\HiPix]
and
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\VB and VBA Program Settings\HiPix DTV-200]
Okay, this is a serious question: how hard is it to do a Windows installer script that would do all this stuff? I'm a Mac guy, and on the Mac it wouldn't be too difficult, so I would imagine that InstallShield or whatever would be able to do this as well.
I ask because it seems like a large fraction of the questions here end up being caused by improper installation of the software or incomplete removal of the previous version.
So, my suggestion is that perhaps one of the development team could take on the task of building an installer for each revision of the software. I know it's not glamorous, but it's as important as having thorough release notes and instructions for new features (that's a hint).
I'm working on possibly joining the dev team myself, and if I do I'd be willing to tackle part of that task. In the meantime, any volunteers?
WishIdInventedTivo,
I was doing great, I was following your instructions to the letter, then I got to the second step:
* Copy the HipixCleaner.exe utility to a safe place.
I searched my entire computer and could not find this file. Do you know where I can find it? I went to the Digital Connection site but it is not there, I also looked on the Tellemann site but did not find it there either.
WishIdInventedTivo
10-22-02, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by jmhays
WishIdInventedTivo,
I was doing great, I was following your instructions to the letter, then I got to the second step:
* Copy the HipixCleaner.exe utility to a safe place.
I searched my entire computer and could not find this file. Do you know where I can find it? I went to the Digital Connection site but it is not there, I also looked on the Tellemann site but did not find it there either.
jmhays, HipixCleaner.exe gets installed in the same directory as the rest of HiPix. If it's not part of the 3.5 installer then it must have come from an earlier one. In any event, I've attached it to this message (which I've never done before). :eek:
WishIdInventedTivo,
Thanks for your help. I finally got it to work! I finally did find the hipixcleaner.exe file, and that did the trick.
PS: By the way I WishIdInventedTivo too! They have an excellent product, I still have yet to find something better! Now, if they can only stay in business!
htwaits
10-23-02, 01:37 PM
I have a new HiPix card still in the box and have downloaded AVS HiPix 3.5.2. I will be useing my PC's moniter to start. Are there any installation tips I should know about before I start? I expect to run it in XP Home.
My PC:
Windows XP Home (dual boot with Win98SE)
EPoX 8KTA3+ Mother Board
Athlon 1200 MHz Processor
Via KT133A chip set VT8363
512 MB sdram
ATI Radeon 7200 AGP 64MB
Philips PSC706 Audio Card
Linksys LNE100TX Ethernet ADapter
Yamaha CRW2200E CD-Rom
60GB Maxtor 5T060H6
NTFS 60GB G: (data)
40GB Maxtor 5T040H4:
FAT32 2GB C: (Win98 SE)
FAT32 7.4GB D: (Win XP Home)
FAT32 29GB E: (data)
Thanks for any thoughts or assistance!
htwaits
10-23-02, 01:37 PM
I have a new HiPix card still in the box and have downloaded AVS HiPix 3.5.2. I will be useing my PC's moniter to start. Are there any installation tips I should know about before I start? I expect to run it in XP Home.
My PC:
Windows XP Home (dual boot with Win98SE)
EPoX 8KTA3+ Mother Board
Athlon 1200 MHz Processor
Via KT133A chip set VT8363
512 MB sdram
ATI Radeon 7200 AGP 64MB
Philips PSC706 Audio Card
Linksys LNE100TX Ethernet ADapter
Yamaha CRW2200E CD-Rom
60GB Maxtor 5T060H6
NTFS 60GB G: (data)
40GB Maxtor 5T040H4:
FAT32 2GB C: (Win98 SE)
FAT32 7.4GB D: (Win XP Home)
FAT32 29GB E: (data)
Thanks for any thoughts or assistance!
WishIdInventedTivo
10-23-02, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by htwaits
I have a new HiPix card still in the box and have downloaded AVS HiPix 3.5.2. I will be useing my PC's moniter to start. Are there any installation tips I should know about before I start? I expect to run it in XP Home.
Yes, I think you need to download and install 3.5 first as it includes the ZIP of the drivers and installation instructions that you'll need. I can e-mail it to you if you can't find it (the drivers ZIP or the entire 3.5 ZIP with both), just PM me.
I'd recommend you get 3.5 working before upgrading to 3.5.2. One of the 3.5.2 fixe is for a schedule bug, so you'll need to clear and recreate all scheduled recordings for 3.5.2 if I recall.
It sounds like this may be your first experience with HiPix. If so you will find information about the various features not documented (which is most of them) in some of the older forum messages. Reason is that with each new x.x release a new thread is started and most of the posts are from folks who have already been working with the software.
Good luck!
ragamuffin
10-23-02, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by WishIdInventedTivo
I'd recommend you get 3.5 working before upgrading to 3.5.2.
This isn't necessary... 3.5.2 is a full install minus the drivers. The same exact drivers packaged with the previous installs are separately available via download from the midwinter site ( http://www.midwinter.com/hipix ). I'd suggest installing the drivers first, rebooting, then installing 3.5.2.
There's no need to start with 3.5 or any earlier version. Although it won't hurt anything to do that, it's not necessary. You can save yourself the trouble of applying patches already rolled up in 3.5.2.
EDIT: 3.5.2 has just been repackaged to also include the drivers.
3.5.2 is a patch to 3.5.0, you need to install 3.5.0 first.
fast-ace
10-23-02, 04:16 PM
Ready to give up! I've been unable to record due to stuttering audio and lockup of video since ver.2.31. Just followed all the instructions for removing and re-installing in this post, but same problem. When I reboot following HiPix installation, windows says new hardware found and starts installing ATI drivers. I'm wondering if I have a conflict with the ATI 8500 tuner card. Hardware: AMD 750, 256 ram, 80g hard dr, ATI 8500, Windows ME. The Tuner works fine, just recording that causes trouble. Any ideas as to whats wrong?
Just to clarify, all you need is a clean install of version 3.52 + the latest driver.
In fact, in a few minutes I'm going to replace the 3.5 main download link on the first post of "Taking HDTV PVR...." with 3.52; which is what everyone should be using.
htwaits
10-23-02, 04:44 PM
Thanks for the help WishIdInventedTivo and ragamuffin. I'm off for some cable to bring the outside antenna into my computer then I hope for HiPix heaven soon after.
At the time I posted, the 3.52 zip file only had the exe file in it, there is a newer file labled 3.52B which appears to be complete.
ChrisW6ATV
10-23-02, 08:31 PM
I don't remember seeing this bug reported before, but it has been a problem for me through several HiPix versions:
-The audio and video PIDs will be changed to 0x81 and 0x84 for a channel, and then when I tune to it, I get no sound and a blank screen (or a 'freeze-frame' from the last good channel I watched).
This PID change can be triggered by several things, but I have not done enough testing to nail it down. I have seen it come up after tuning to a channel with low or no signal (such as when I have switched antennas), and when I have switched into or out of NTSC mode.
Maybe this has been reported before, but not described as I have? I am able to 'fix' the problem by deleting and re-adding a channel (when I have a good signal, of course), but then I have to undo the PSIP re-mapping each time as well. (A related new feature request would be a selectable box to 'ignore PSIP' or 'omit all remapping'.) Alternately, I can go into the Registry and fix the settings in the AudioPid and VideoPid keys.
Thank you for any help you can offer with this problem. I would be happy to investigate it if needed.
duihlein
10-24-02, 09:44 AM
I have a HiPix in the St. Louis area. Im not sure if there are stations passing AC3 and I'd like to determine if my current configuration is passing AC3 for me. Is it possible to get a 5 minute demo clip that has AC3 encoded.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
3.5.2 didn't fix the "no sound during recording" problem for me. I use PCM sound mode (stereo out) and loopback for the display. OS: XP
akula
Originally posted by fast-ace
Ready to give up! I've been unable to record due to stuttering audio and lockup of video since ver.2.31. Just followed all the instructions for removing and re-installing in this post, but same problem. When I reboot following HiPix installation, windows says new hardware found and starts installing ATI drivers. I'm wondering if I have a conflict with the ATI 8500 tuner card. Hardware: AMD 750, 256 ram, 80g hard dr, ATI 8500, Windows ME. The Tuner works fine, just recording that causes trouble. Any ideas as to whats wrong?
I would check to make sure your hard disk are using DMA transfers instead of PIO. I had very similiar problems the last time I did a nuke and pave and updating the Bios fixed it.
--Rick
Michael or Jon, what is the procedure for changing a recording from a MyHD file format to be able to be played on a HiPix?
Thanks,
Jim
jon_rhees
10-24-02, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by akula
3.5.2 didn't fix the "no sound during recording" problem for me. I use PCM sound mode (stereo out) and loopback for the display. OS: XP
akula
akula,
*IF* you can easily reproduce this and *IF* this was not a problem prior to 3.5, PM me with your email addr.
-Jon
3.5.2rc1 only fixed the no audio if "VOP during recording" was not set on during recording, it was the same in 3.52, but you could not do either in 3.5
Jim
Originally posted by vfrjim
Michael or Jon, what is the procedure for changing a recording from a MyHD file format to be able to be played on a HiPix?
Thanks,
Jim
I think all you do is change the extension from .tp to .ts on the files you want to playback on the Hipix. If there's a series of files you need to playback, you would have to also change the xxxx.ts part so the files will play in sequence (recording.0000.ts, recording.0001.ts, recording,0002.ts, etc).
Originally posted by duihlein
I have a HiPix in the St. Louis area. Im not sure if there are stations passing AC3 and I'd like to determine if my current configuration is passing AC3 for me. Is it possible to get a 5 minute demo clip that has AC3 encoded.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
You are aware that 5 minutes is more than 600 MEGA bytes?
fast-ace
10-24-02, 04:29 PM
Ready to give up! I've been unable to record due to stuttering audio and lockup of video since ver.2.31. Just followed all the instructions for removing and re-installing in this post, but same problem. When I reboot following HiPix installation, windows says new hardware found and starts installing ATI drivers. I'm wondering if I have a conflict with the ATI 8500 tuner card. Hardware: AMD 750, 256 ram, 80g hard dr, ATI 8500, Windows ME. The Tuner works fine, just recording that causes trouble. Any ideas as to whats wrong? I would check to make sure your hard disk are using DMA transfers instead of PIO. I had very similiar problems the last time I did a nuke and pave and updating the Bios fixed it.
I set DMA on in Windows device manager, but could find nothing in the Bios that mentioned it. This is an older FIC motherboard, maybe I should just upgrade to a newer board & faster chip.
fast-ace, it might be easier just to put a cheap IDE controller card (like the ATA100 or ATA133 IDE card from Promise. That's what I did on my 4 year old PC and that solved a lot of performance related issues.
That's what I thought but my friend recorded a myhd recording and changed it to a .ts file and burnt it on a DVD and it would not play. All it said was file ready.
Jim
Cliff Watson
10-24-02, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by mkanet
I think all you do is change the extension from .tp to .ts on the files you want to playback on the Hipix. If there's a series of files you need to playback, you would have to also change the xxxx.ts part so the files will play in sequence (recording.0000.ts, recording.0001.ts, recording,0002.ts, etc).
Michael,
I renamed the files properly and HiPix keep repeating the first file instead of moving to the next file in the series.
Cliff, if there's enough interst, I'm sure one of the developers wouldn't mind making it easier to play MyHD files on the HiPix. Maybe someone from the AVS Team might be able to help.
yogaman
10-24-02, 06:34 PM
Speaking of weird:
Auto Add-Chan scans all and lists the found local stations in a brick-reddish colored font above the Channel List label, even including two not listed at TitanTV. But it seldom enters any of the found channels into the Programmed Channels list. Once, it found both KQED-DT.1 and .2. and KPIX-DT.1 as well. Another time, it added 57.1, but didn't mention that there's a 57.2 (usually, I think) or that it's KRON-DT. And it has yet to exceed adding 5 total of the 12 found OTA channels, despite repeated Add attempts.
I also note that this HiPix card - which is using latest driver posted today 10/24 with app v3.52B (Setup type: Complete, after System Restore to point before Hardware driver was installed, followed by deleting all files with HiPix on the C: drive) in an XP Pro Celeron 1.3G (o/c from 1.1G), 512MB, CUSL2-C computer - tunes/captures channels more slowly than another card in a Duron 900 running Me w/app & drivers v3.0. Could slow tuning/capture be related? Any suggestions on what is the most likely tune/capture slowdown, and how to fix?
-yogaman
Could it be a file Size problem? Does the HiPix have a maximum size file it can play?
yogaman
10-24-02, 07:08 PM
Update: Slow tuning speed may also explain why in Antenna Aim, only the one dual-subchannel broadcaster in the Prog Chan list shows a reading above 5. It's as if when the Antenna Aim program lingers twice as long on the station with two subchannels, it eventually reports a decent signal strength. [Edit:] Not quite decent all the time, actually. 30.2 before and after Antenna Aim reported as 75-76 vs. 5-8, 62-65 during Antenna Aim. [/Edit]
Antenna Aim at present is basically non-functional.
I'm about ready to swap hardware.
-yogaman
duihlein
10-24-02, 07:12 PM
quote:
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Originally posted by duihlein
I have a HiPix in the St. Louis area. Im not sure if there are stations passing AC3 and I'd like to determine if my current configuration is passing AC3 for me. Is it possible to get a 5 minute demo clip that has AC3 encoded.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
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You are aware that 5 minutes is more than 600 MEGA bytes?
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Yes I'm aware of the length. I'd be happy to send a CD-R and return postage if someone has a CD burner. If someone out there can oblige send me a PM.
Thanks
Dave
yogaman, I suggest you swap hardware :)
I don't live too far from you and get 70+ signal on all my local DTV stations including the ones you mentioned. Antenna aim works beautifully for me. I'm using relatively junky Radio Shack antenna placed in my apt balcony.
yogaman
10-24-02, 08:18 PM
OK, soon, Michael.
You do understand that eventually the signal strength climbs to the 70+ region on all stations when I manually tune them, right? It's just that it takes a long time to get there, especially, it seems, during the Antenna Aim function. And because it takes so long, I'm guessing that reasonable timeouts in the code are concluding that the station doesn't exist. So, if anyone has a sudden flash about what might lengthen the time to bring up the signal strength, please speak up.
-yogaman
yogaman. I understand. I dont think it's something that can be fixed in the software; that's why I suggested trying different hardware (IE different PC and/or antenna). You signal level should immediately jump to 70 or more.
EDIT: This is presuming you have a relatively clean OS and clean install of the latest HiPix software/driver.
yogaman
10-24-02, 09:36 PM
Rats. Hardware.
Brought good card to 3.52 machine. Beautiful. Like singing.
So, just the way you poke at a sore spot to make sure it's still sore, I put the slow card back in, and it's now 5 max forever on all the stations discovered effortlessly by the card I've now named, "Good Card."
From my decades of experience with computer hardware, I recognize this gradual failure as very likely being a mechanical failure, first partial, eventually total, especially after handling. It might be that a component failed due to overheating or electrostatic discharge, but more likely is a solder joint or lead or trace separation. Probly very difficult to find without more test equipment than I have readily available. Visual inspection has been unfruitful.
Rest in peace, fair HiPix. Thy day is done.
-yogaman
Cliff Watson
10-24-02, 10:08 PM
”Cliff, if there's enough interst, I'm sure one of the developers wouldn't mind making it easier to play MyHD files on the HiPix. Maybe someone from the AVS Team might be able to help.”
Michael,
Once the files have been converted to the HiPix naming convention they are no longer MyHD files.
The problem with HiPix not moving to the next numbered file in the sequence may be because the files were 1 gig files instead of the normal 1-minute files.
I would like the Hipix card to play MyHD files directly without having to rename all the files in the captured stream.
As an alternative (maybe a preferred alternative), I would like the MyHD application to adopt the xxxx.tp naming convention for its files. Maybe the Hipix application could play those files in series without modification. Of course, I haven't tested this possibility yet myself.
The xxxx.tp naming convention enables the files to be displayed in order in Windows Explorer when there are more than 100 files in the captured stream. I prefer to have the files displayed in order to make them easier to copy and paste elsewhere (like in my backup program).
Cliff Watson
10-25-02, 12:09 AM
"The xxxx.tp naming convention enables the files to be displayed in order in Windows Explorer when there are more than 100 files in the captured stream. I prefer to have the files displayed in order to make them easier to copy and paste elsewhere (like in my backup program)."
Steve,
Have you actually recorded more that 100 files with MyHD? I just recorded 213 files and they are in correct order when displayed in Windows Explorer.
jon_rhees
10-25-02, 12:48 AM
What format *are* MyHD files named in?
-Jon
Cliff Watson
10-25-02, 01:18 AM
Originally posted by jon_rhees
What format *are* MyHD files named in?
-Jon
Name.tp
Name_01.tp
to
Name_99.tp
Name_100.tp
to
Name_999.tp
Name_1000.tp
etc.
Originally posted by Cliff Watson
Have you actually recorded more that 100 files with MyHD? I just recorded 213 files and they are in correct order when displayed in Windows Explorer.
I will send you a screen shot.
sigma957
10-25-02, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by sigma957
Eveything works great, except that when I connect the Hipix card to my HDTV monitor, there is a significant amount of overscan. So much so, that the top and side portions of the display text at the top of the screen is cut off. When I view the same programs live through my DTC-100 there is noticeably less overscan. Is there someplace I can adjust this on the Hipix? I am using version 3.5 at the 1920x1080i setting, and my monitor is a Pioneer SD533HD5 RPTV. Thanks. Anyone have suggestions?
Originally posted by sigma957
Anyone have suggestions?
Get your monitor adjusted, this is a monitor problem, not a hipix problem.
I'm still investigating this card and HDTV setup and I had a few questions I've been unable to find answers to on the telemann site.
There is a video overlay feature on this card correct? I don't see any vga input on the hipix card, so I don't get where that would be coming in from. I thought I remember reading that the hipix card can do VGA or component video out through the vga port on the card.
I also thought I read that if using the overlay feature the input format has to match the output format. For example if the hipix card vga port was configured to send YPrPb the overlay input would also need to be YPrPb and not VGA, is that true?
Is any of this correct or am I mixing up HDTV tuner cards?
ChrisW6ATV
10-25-02, 03:19 PM
Jeff-
'Video overlay' typically refers to a video display on your computer desktop screen, either full-screen or a smaller window. The HiPix can do that, via signals over the PCI bus or with an internal ribbon cable to a few video boards. The other display feature you mention (connecting your video board 'through' the HiPix) is called 'loopback' on the HiPix, and it uses a separate pigtail cable for its "VGA input" that connects to your computer's video board. The HiPix can generate RGB ("VGA") or component signals on its own, and if you use the loopback cable, it will pass whatever your video board sends (presumably VGA). If your HDTV display has no VGA/RGB/RGBHV input and you want to use the loopback feature, it is best to use an external RGB-to-component transcoder.
sigma957
10-25-02, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by DAP
Get your monitor adjusted, this is a monitor problem, not a hipix problem. Then why does the same monitor, using the same input (15-pin VGA connector), display much less overscan when connected to a DTC-100 at 1080i than it does when connected to the Hipix at 1080i? There is obviously something different about the signal being output from the Hipix versus the signal being output from the DTC-100.
jon_rhees
10-25-02, 03:35 PM
Originally posted by sigma957
Then why does the same monitor, using the same input (15-pin VGA connector), display much less overscan when connected to a DTC-100 at 1080i than it does when connected to the Hipix at 1080i? There is obviously something different about the signal being output from the Hipix versus the signal being output from the DTC-100.
Sigma,
*IF* you adhere to the ATSC scan standard (which is 60Hz refresh, 540 lines/field, 33.75KHz horz rate) then the only overscan adjustment which can be made by a HiPix (or any other video generator for that matter) is horizontal overscan. This is done by 'growing' the left and right porches (black area) of each scan line. However, vertical overscan (top to bottom) cannot be altered without messing up scan rates (i.e., is 100% determined by your display device).
Hence, you will find that IF the DTC-100 and the HiPix are both outputting the same signal format (e.g. 1080i) that they both should have identical VERTICAL overscan. (They may be positioned vertically a bit different, but vert size will be the same).
Horizontal overscan cannot be adjusted on any of the HD cards at this time.
-Jon
ChrisW6ATV
10-25-02, 03:37 PM
sigma957-
Are you aware of the DTC-100 'software update', and the resulting three RGB output modes available in a menu? I no longer have my Proscan PSHD105 (same as DTC-100), so I may not have the details or names correct, but here are some things to check:
-In the 'Setup' menu, there is an option for 'HDTV output', or similar. There is also an option for 'horizontal centering'. The 'HDTV output' menu has three choices-one for use with the VHDC-300 converter, one called 'VESA', and one other. The 'horizontal centering' only works when the 'VESA' output is chosen if I remember right, or maybe it also works with the 'VHDC-300' setting as well. The third output option (the one that is not VHDC-300, and does not allow horizontal centering), is the correct one. Yes, it will cause 'more overscan', but it will be a correct HDTV-standard signal, as is the HiPix output. I verified all of these signals when I had the PSHD105, and I measured the diameter of the CBS logo on HDTV shows, for example. It was 'round' from the HiPix, or the 105 after I set it as described above, but it was a taller oval using the 105's other HDTV output settings.
sigma957
10-25-02, 05:50 PM
jon_rhees -
Both the Horizontal and Vertical overscans look different to me, but you may be correct, the vertical position may just be different. I will try to check it more accurately.
ChrisW6ATV -
I have seen the 'HDTV Output' option in the setup menu. The default setting was 'VESA', and I have not changed it. I do not have my DTC-100 in front of me now, but I will try changing that setting and see if the picture appears the same as the Hipix. If I can get the pictures the same, then I can adjust the overscan on the TV, and both inputs would be good. Thanks, I will try that.
Originally posted by ChrisW6ATV
Jeff-
'Video overlay' typically refers to a video display on your computer desktop screen, either full-screen or a smaller window. The HiPix can do that, via signals over the PCI bus or with an internal ribbon cable to a few video boards. The other display feature you mention (connecting your video board 'through' the HiPix) is called 'loopback' on the HiPix, and it uses a separate pigtail cable for its "VGA input" that connects to your computer's video board. The HiPix can generate RGB ("VGA") or component signals on its own, and if you use the loopback cable, it will pass whatever your video board sends (presumably VGA). If your HDTV display has no VGA/RGB/RGBHV input and you want to use the loopback feature, it is best to use an external RGB-to-component transcoder.
Chris, thank.
I didn't realize that overlay and loopback were different in functionality. I thought they were different names for the same thing. Is there a description of how each can be used somewhere?
I guess I was wrong thinking the HiPix could output a YPrPb signal out the 15pin port on the back. My display is a Toshiba tw56x81 so I'll still need a transcoder, that's the plan.
The video card I'll be using is a Radeon 8500 AIW. I'll investigate if that can be a loopback source for the hipix. I guess all cables are include in the hipix package?
Thanks
Bogney Baux
10-25-02, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by sigma957
The default setting was 'VESA', and I have not changed it. I do not have my DTC-100 in front of me now, but I will try changing that setting and see if the picture appears the same as the Hipix. VESA will give you a narrower picture. Short Retrace (EIA 770.3 Timing) should match the width to Hipix.
jon_rhees
10-25-02, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by Jeff D
Chris, thank.
I guess I was wrong thinking the HiPix could output a YPrPb signal out the 15pin port on the back. My display is a Toshiba tw56x81 so I'll still need a transcoder, that's the plan.
Jeff,
The HiPix *CAN* output YPrPb from the 15-pin port, HOWEVER, it can only do this with the video it generates. When switched to pass-thru mode, it will simply output what comes in via the loopback cable input. If you have the loopback cable connected to a video card outputting RGB, then when in pass-thru mode, you'll get RGB out.
Essentially, the way to understand this is:
1. The HiPix chipset outputs a HD video signal. This can be generated either RGB or YPrPb.
2. This HD signal is fed into an electronic a/b switch, into what we'll call input a.
3. A loopback cable is provided which can hook to your video card's output and feed it into the HiPix, into the a/b switch into input 'b'.
4. The 15-pin connector on the HiPix is the output of the a/b switch.
-Jon
Thank Jon, that was what I suspected above when I said:
I also thought I read that if using the overlay feature the input format has to match the output format. For example if the hipix card vga port was configured to send YPrPb the overlay input would also need to be YPrPb and not VGA, is that true?
I may have used the wrong term of overlay where I should have used passthrough or loopback.
I've tried to figure this stuff out on my own, the documentaion on the telemann site seems to be lacking with only basic overviews and sell sheets. I'd love to be able to read the documentation. =)
yogaman
10-25-02, 07:38 PM
Here's a bug and a "feature" I haven't seen discussed:
The "feature" first:
If I start the HiPix application via Remote Desktop to an XP Pro host everything works as expected except that the audio comes out of the speakers on the remote Progear.
OK, maybe that's how Remote Desktop works best for a remote workstation application. But I'd really rather have my host's higher performance audio chip and faster processor produce the audio no matter where I start the application from. That's why I put "feature" in quotes.
Now the honest-to-goodness bug:
When Remote Desktop closes, the audio to the remote terminates as expected, but, after re-logging in on the host computer to the user account that has HiPix running, no audio comes out of the host.
Furthermore, restarting RD from the remote and re-logging in does not restore the audio to the remote.
The only way to restore audio at this point is to terminate the HiPix application, and restart it from the desired audio output device.
(On the good side, if the application is started from a host keyboard/display, the HiPix application audio output always comes from the host, except, of course, for momentary interruptions while Windows gets too busy. The desktop can be surrendered to the remote RD, or restored to the host, or re-surrendered, or etc.)
Can the application control which computer decodes audio? Can the user control the application?
-yogaman
jon_rhees
10-26-02, 08:16 PM
yogaman,
The audio rerout that Remote Desktop performs is an OS function and the application has no way of controlling it. However, you CAN change this behavior in the Remote Desktop application itself. When presented with the screen where you choose the host to connect to, click the 'Options' button, and then click the 'Local Resources' tab and change the setting on 'Remote Computer Sound' to 'Leave at Remote Computer'
-Jon
Please, please, please fix or address this bug I have. It probably only applies to those who have limited storage space. I reported this before but didn't get an acknowledgment. Happened to me on Bug's Life recording again tonite.
Example scenario: Start a manual record at 7pm, movie runs till 9pm needing approx. 17 GB space (lets say I only have 15 GB free). Yet if I pause the recording for commercials I can easily fit the movie in the 15GB space. But the recording kicks out at the time where it 'thinks' the disk is full. It's like the timer starts when you begin the recording and doesn't take into account the pauses. It closed the HiPix app and if I re-open it and try to record again the sound is gone.
Am I doing something wrong here? Does 'Check Disk Space' solve this dilemma?
Loax
yogaman
10-27-02, 09:39 PM
Jon:
Thanks for the tip on Remote Desktop operation.
-yogaman
jon_rhees
10-27-02, 11:20 PM
Loax,
Are you using 3.5.2? I thought I fixed this bug (recording not taking into account pauses).
-Jon
Jon,
I am using 3.5 Beta 1. If this has been addressed in 3.5.2 I apologize. I didn't notice it in the bug fix list.
Loax
p.s. Thanks for all your work.
jon_rhees
10-27-02, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by Loax
Jon,
I am using 3.5 Beta 1. If this has been addressed in 3.5.2 I apologize. I didn't notice it in the bug fix list.
Loax
p.s. Thanks for all your work.
I need to verify this bug fix got in. I thought I put it in 3.5...
-Jon
WishIdInventedTivo
10-28-02, 01:13 PM
I think something is still wrong with the scheduler. I deleted all my scheduled events, upgraded to 3.5.2, then recreated all my scheduled events.
Last night (Sunday) the HiPix recorded Jay Leno. Problem is it's set to a Mon-Fri schedule. I can't say for sure if it recorded on Saturday as I was cleaning out recordings and don't recall if it was there.
I noticed some of my recordings seemed to start about 30 seconds late. I actually saw it start recording late once when I was trying to catch it. Last night I did a test but it started recording on time.
I have been running a network time service on HiPix since the beginning so the date, time and day of week are correct.
Anyone else seeing some flakeyness and know they recreated all scheduled events?
EDIT: I did not experience a Daylight Savings Time problem. My two Sunday recordings were made at the proper hour.
Hipix did NOT handle the end of "Daylight Savings Time" correctly. I set up a test recording for noon Sunday, it recorded at 11:00 am. Ok, I though this was because it was set to wake when DST was still in effect, but then it attempted to record Alias an hour too early later that day. Since then I have rebooted the computer, and am hoping that resyncronized everything, won't know till tonight though.
This bug will be hard to fix since it will occure only twice a year.
I too had the "Daylight Savings" problem. I had scheduled a recording of "A Bug's Life" on Saturday and then it proceeded to start recording at 5:00pm (CST) Sunday instead of 6:00pm.
JustMike
10-28-02, 05:16 PM
Howdy,
I posted these questions in a separate thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=183872) thinking that they weren't strictly technical support, but maybe this was the right place after all.
1) Can the 3.5.2 software be used to play DVD's scaled to 720p? If so, are there step-by-step directions?
2) How does the D-VHS button in the HiPix application work for saving shows to D-VHS? I have a JVC 30000 deck. Once on tape, can I play then back on the 30000 or do I have to stream back to the PC? Again, some step-by-step directions would be great.
Many thanks.
ChrisW6ATV
10-28-02, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by ChrisW6ATV
I don't remember seeing this bug reported before, but it has been a problem for me through several HiPix versions:
-The audio and video PIDs will be changed to 0x81 and 0x84 for a channel, and then when I tune to it, I get no sound and a blank screen (or a 'freeze-frame' from the last good channel I watched).
This PID change can be triggered by several things, but I have not done enough testing to nail it down. I have seen it come up after tuning to a channel with low or no signal (such as when I have switched antennas), and when I have switched into or out of NTSC mode.
Maybe this has been reported before, but not described as I have? I am able to 'fix' the problem by deleting and re-adding a channel (when I have a good signal, of course), but then I have to undo the PSIP re-mapping each time as well. (A related new feature request would be a selectable box to 'ignore PSIP' or 'omit all remapping'.) Alternately, I can go into the Registry and fix the settings in the AudioPid and VideoPid keys.
Thank you for any help you can offer with this problem. I would be happy to investigate it if needed.
I haven't seen any comments or responses to this note. Has anyone else reading, had this kind of problem? I am curious to know if maybe I could have a unique problem. Thanks...
aaronwt
10-29-02, 12:32 AM
Originally posted by DAP
Hipix did NOT handle the end of "Daylight Savings Time" correctly. I set up a test recording for noon Sunday, it recorded at 11:00 am. Ok, I though this was because it was set to wake when DST was still in effect, but then it attempted to record Alias an hour too early later that day. Since then I have rebooted the computer, and am hoping that resyncronized everything, won't know till tonight though.
This bug will be hard to fix since it will occure only twice a year.
I deleted all the recordings that I scheduled prior to the time change. I did a couple of tests and it started recording at the right time.Hopefully it will work now.
I'm glad Alias was a repeat since that's when i realized my recordings occured an hour early
I just noticed my Win2000 computer's clock had rolled back 2 hours! I think I had a hang/reboot somewhere yesterday. It's a dual-boot machine, maybe each o/s version bootup rolled the clock? Don't think I've booted the other o/s yet.
Anyway, maybe the HiPix scheduler isn't at fault, could be a Winbug involved.
jmmesch
10-29-02, 01:28 AM
I'm glad Alias was a repeat since that's when i realized my recordings occured an hour early
I knew as early as Friday, 10/26/02, I could not catch Alias in real time HD on Sunday 10/27/02. I then recorded the wild feed from C-Band on my S-VHS VCR on Saturday late afternoon and watched it Sunday early AM, so I didn't bother to record it in HD with my Hipix version 3.5.2. What I recorded was the next episode, so I guess it will be airing next Sunday. It was very good and nasty. So what aired OTA was truly a repeat?
JustPatrick
10-29-02, 04:08 AM
Fill mode doesn't seem to work when I'm receiving a HD signal. There are some shows that are not broadcast in HD, but are broadcast letterbox (Enterprise, for example is broadcast as a letterboxed 4x3 image in an upconverted 1080i 16x9 frame) I'd like to take advantage of the much better looking picture as compared to the analog broadcast, but the HiPix doesnt crop and zoom (FILL mode) when it's getting an HD signal. I've heard this is a known problem. Is it being addressed?
JustMike
10-30-02, 08:00 PM
Greetings,
Just wondering whether anybody could point me to answers to my questions from a couple of days ago (a few postings up). I saw that there was a thread about playing DVD on the HiPix, but the thread is 14 pages long and I wasn't sure how relevant it all was with the latest software. Is there current information anywhere that doesn't involve reading for a few hours?
Any info about using the D-VHS feature would also be very welcome.
Thanks! :D
JustPatrick, there are many people who use the HiPix to zoom shows like Enterprise to to fullscreen 16x9 using the FILL "aspect" setting. All it requires is a couple of taps of the "A" hot-key. However, it won't zoom shows that are non-480i. For here in SF Bay Area, our local affiliate broadcasts Enterprise in 480i.
If there's enough demand for non-480i letterboxed sources to be zoomed, I'm sure it will be added by someone on the AVS HiPix Team.
JustMike
10-30-02, 08:14 PM
Yes please!! :) Any letterboxed SD show on the WB (KBWB here in SF) is shown as a "windowboxed" upconvert, and although it can be stretched it can't be "fill"-ed.
bensons
10-30-02, 09:42 PM
Pulled my new HiPix from the box and attempted to install in my HTPC. Got the following errors and was unable to get the HiPix app to run.
Upon first run of HiPix I got the following message:
"New features of the HiPix release require a restart of your machine to work properly. Please restart your machine and then Launch HiPix again."
Upon closing that window an "Illegal Operation" error pops onto the screen:
"This program has performed an illegal operation and will shut down."
Each boot and start of HiPix app there-after crashes the system with the following "Visual C++ Runtime Library" error:
"Runtime Error!"
"..blah...DTV-200.exe"
"abnormal program termination"
What is it the the DTV-200.exe and/or meerket.exe is trying to do and isn't? Can the problem be fixed manually?
Process followed:
Install Driver (Worked Fine)
Install 3.5.2 (Worked Fine)
Install Patch (Worked Fine)
Start HiPix App (Errors Listed Above)
System:
TSLU2-C
Elsa Gladiac
SBLive Value
Win98SE
bensons
10-30-02, 11:38 PM
Fresh OS Install #1
Format C:
Load Win98SE
Load Motherboard Drivers
Load NVidia v23.11 Drivers
Load HiPix Driver from CD -> Failed
Update: Copy Win98 (Cab Files) to hardrive, load driver from CD, point to C:\Win98 when asked for cab files and driver loads. This bug is repeatable. Looks like the driver install does not like changing cd's.
Fresh OS Install #2
Format C:
Install Win98SE
Install Motherboard Drivers
Install Video Drivers
Copy HiPix driver and/or Win98 Cab files to Hardrive
Install HiPix Driver
Install HiPix 3.5.2R1
Install DirectX v8.1
First run of HiPix App gives me errors then asks for Win98 cab files on init and exit. Will try fresh again tomorrow and see if I can get the process above to work without error.
Have yet to install the SBLive...
aaronwt
10-31-02, 12:23 AM
Go to WinXP!!
you can get a COA for only $52. The full OEM version. You just need to get a copy of the Full OEM version disk.
JustPatrick
10-31-02, 03:11 AM
Originally posted by mkanet
JustPatrick, there are many people who use the HiPix to zoom shows like Enterprise to to fullscreen 16x9 using the FILL "aspect" setting. All it requires is a couple of taps of the "A" hot-key. However, it won't zoom shows that are non-480i. For here in SF Bay Area, our local affiliate broadcasts Enterprise in 480i.
Yeah, Enterprise was a bad exmaple.. a better example is Angel, and possibly The West Wing (I haven't checked to see if KNTV is upconverting).
I think the ability to zoom non-480i sources would be a great addition. Here in Detroit all of our locals except FOX upconvert to 1080i or 720p. Another side benefit is that a new zoom option could also be used with the HiPix DVD playback for non-anamorphic DVD's.
Rick
Originally posted by bensons
Install 3.5.2 (Worked Fine)
Install Patch (Worked Fine)
Patch? What patch? I don't believe there is any patch for 3.5.2, that is the latest software.
I recently made a HiPix recording that refused to play the sound correctly. It stuttered all the way through a 1/2 hour program.
However, when I used the bookmark/commercial skip feature to skip over the first 3 seconds of the file, it plays perfectly.
I ran an error check program, ec.exe, available for free personal use at
http://www-personal.engin.umich.edu/~balazer/atsc/
on the first file, and got this error:
Error in file.0000.ts: missing, bad, or mis-aligned sync
I think the broadcast switched over from SD to HD just as the recording started.
Anyway, if anyone working on the HiPix software thinks it could be useful for a debugging session I'd be glad to email you the first 15 seconds or so of the file.
Patch? What patch? I don't believe there is any patch for 3.5.2, that is the latest software
http://www.midwinter.com/hipix/dllfix_352_patch1.zip
This patch contains an updated mqtvcom.dll file. Locate this file on your system and replace it with this updated version. You will need to make sure that the HiPix application and the Meerkat application are not running in order to relace this dll. Reboot your system once the dll has been replaced. Jon suggests a complete power down and OFF, and then power ON reboot cycle.
JustMike
11-01-02, 03:27 AM
Okay, I'll answer one of my own two questions:
For D-VHS, the HiPix application can play back video from a D-VHS deck, but it cannot record directly to the deck. That feature is on the "like to have" list for a future upgrade.
If you have a supported deck installed and properly configured (see here (http://www.webtc.com/DVHS/default.htm) for instructions on setting up the DirectShow driver), then a "D-VHS" button will appear on the left-hand side of the HiPix application window. This allows playback through the application.
Why would you want to do this? Well, some D-VHS decks don't have built-in MPEG decoders, so this lets you play the files back through the one on your HiPix.
As for the recording to tape, there are a couple of options, but the most popular seems to be DVHSTool 2.03. Information on this application is available here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=164724&perpage=20&pagenumber=1). But, in short, it's a Windows app that can take a set of transport stream files from HiPix, MyHDTV, and maybe others and record them out to tape. It is still in development, and while it works well for some people, others have been having problems with video glitching and lip sync. Read the thread for more info.
Originally posted by roddie
http://www.midwinter.com/hipix/dllfix_352_patch1.zip
Yah, you're right, I forgot I had done that one.
I have a new error message that I am getting when I start up Hipix under win98se
HiPix DTV-200
Run-time error 28
Out of stack space
I was getting the error 6 for a while and found out how to get around errors such as these. When you get the control panel to show up on your screen, quickly and in rapid succession, click on the FILE button and it will then give you the file browser window without crashing on you.
I wish there was a more organized way to track what bugs that the Hipix group are addressing and their status. Like maybe a website where you can enter in a problem and it assigns a "ticket number" to it. Then you can see all the outstanding issues that are being addressed and which ones that have fixes already for them.
These threads get long and multiply, and you do not know if anyone has read your post and is working the problem or not.
Here's a couple of moderate bugs found in the current beta:
1. Can't play a program where a comma (,) is within the name of the directory containing the program files. Crashes the HiPix app every time (after an internal error alert box pops up).
2. Rename a directory containing a recording so that it is different from the files it contains. Use the new onscreen menu to delete the program. All the files are deleted but the empty directory remains. (Maybe this is a feature?)
I often rename the directory (not every individual file) containing the program files so it is more descriptive of the program episode and set the HiPix app to use directory names instead of filenames. A nice feature with the few minor problems above.
WishIdInventedTivo
11-04-02, 01:08 PM
In the HiPix program group is a program titled "TitanTV Setup Properties."
If one right-mouse clicks the scheduler icon there is a choice called "Settings."
I think it would make sense to combine all of these setting choices into one dialog screen. Perhaps the option should moved from the scheduler icon to the TitanTV Setup Properties program which should be renamed something like "Scheduler Setup Properties" and/or the settings option should launch the setup properties program.
htwaits
11-04-02, 02:42 PM
I've had the HiPix card for almost two weeks and havn't been able to install it. Until 11/02/2002 it was just being too busy. Then I updated the sound card drivers, created a new XP partition just for the HiPix, and updated the via drivers. Minutes from opening the case to put in the HiPix my system stuck it's little feet in the air and expired.
I've put out pleas to several MB forums and have gotten as for as cleaning, checking connectors, and removing unessential components. The next step will be taking a power supply out of another system to test
Thanks for reading my tale of woe. If you want to contribute tips, theories, or chatter take a look at what I posted to the MB forums.
Les
************************************
I don't think this problem is MB specific so I'm putting it in several MB groups in the hopes that someone can help me figure out which component needs replacing.
My system has been stable since I built it a little over a year ago. Saturday morning(11/02/2002) after about two hours of work it shut itself down. It acted like a reset only it didn't reboot. I pressed the reset button and the system came back up, As soon as XP loaded it shut down again.
A few times in the past year I have found the system in this state after an overnight task had been completed. The reset button has always caused it to boot and come back up.
After the second shut down I went into the bios and checked the CPU(37C) and system(21C) temps. The room was at 20C. As soon as I left the bios menus it shut down again.
I powered off for about 10 minutes and the system started normally. I was writing a message in Agent when it shut down again.
Now a "power on" is always the same even if the system has been off for several hours. The fans (all 6 of them) spin, and there is no monitor, floppy, HD, or CD-Rom activity. No post activity that I can see.
If anyone has any ideas about how I can find the bad component I would appreciate hearing from you. I've checked all the connections but I haven't cleaned the memory contacts.
Les Alderson
*** My System as of 11/02/2002**************************
Windows XP Home no SP1 dual booting with Win98SE in the C: partition.
Built ~08/2001
EPoX 8KTA3+ Mother Board
Enermax Whisper Switching Power Supply (430 Watts)
Award Bios (Turning the MB sound off is the only change I have made.)
Via KT133A chip set VT8363
Via Service Pack 4.43v installed 11/01/02
Athlon 1200 MHz Processor running at default.
512 MB sdram (Crucial 2 stks)
ATI Radeon 7200 AGP 64MB
Philips PSC706 Audio Card (Latest drivers as of 11/01/02)
Linksys LNE100TX Ethernet ADapter
22" Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 2060u
Drives:
40GB Maxtor 5T040H4: (Master on IDE1)
FAT32 2GB C: (Win98 SE) Primary (all other logical)
FAT32 7.4GB D: (Win XP Home no SP1)
FAT32 29GB E: (data)
Yamaha CRW2200E CD-Rom: (Master on IDE2)
60GB Maxtor 5T060H6: (Master on UIDE1)
NTFS 5GB G: (Win XP Home with SP1) installed 11/01/2002
NTFS 55GB H: (data)
ChrisW6ATV
11-04-02, 04:41 PM
Les-
Since your problem is a general computer problem and not specific to already having a HiPix installed, you probably should start a new discussion, and you may get more help that way.
Briefly, for a 'major' problem like you describe, I would typically take the whole system apart and test with only one memory module, one hard drive, and the video board, then swap and use only the other memory module, then both. After that, reinstall each other device one at a time and do tests, leave it running, etc. until something goes wrong. When it goes bad again, remove the 'last new' item and if it runs again OK, you have found the problem device. Before you start this plan, try pressing any chips tighter into their sockets. Also, did your problems start right after the Via 4-in-1 update? There have been many discussions about weird problems with those-do a search. Good luck.
Is anyone else having a problem trying to schedule any of the "Law & Order" shows using TitanTV? I'm guessing it's the ampersand in the title that is screwing things up. I'm getting a "File Not Found" error when I try to schedule it.
Roddie
htwaits
11-04-02, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by ChrisW6ATV
Les-
Since your problem is a general computer problem and not specific to already having a HiPix installed, you probably should start a new discussion, and you may get more help that way.
Thanks for the tips Chris. I should have suggested that anyone wanting to contribute to the effort should use a PM. If I don't get it solved with MB forum help I'll come back and do a new thread. I can't do the full tear down until tomorrow. I've done everything short of that already. Since I don't have a CPU to switch I'll probably have to treat the MB and CPU as one unit.
Les
WishIdInventedTivo
11-04-02, 08:11 PM
Sorry I haven't tried scheduling that show, but I did discover that Jay Leno/Tonight Show is scheduled as 60 minutes long when it should be (and was) 62. I reported it to TitanTV.com today.
aaronwt
11-04-02, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by htwaits
My system has been stable since I built it a little over a year ago. Saturday morning(11/02/2002) after about two hours of work it shut itself down. It acted like a reset only it didn't reboot. I pressed the reset button and the system came back up, As soon as XP loaded it shut down again.
Via KT133A chip set VT8363
Via Service Pack 4.43v installed 11/01/02
From what you wrote it looks like your problems started when you installed the VIA service pack. You installed it on 11/01/02 and started having problems on 11/02/02.
aaronwt
11-04-02, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by htwaits
My system has been stable since I built it a little over a year ago. Saturday morning(11/02/2002) after about two hours of work it shut itself down. It acted like a reset only it didn't reboot. I pressed the reset button and the system came back up, As soon as XP loaded it shut down again.
Via KT133A chip set VT8363
Via Service Pack 4.43v installed 11/01/02
From what you wrote it looks like your problems started when you installed the VIA service pack. You installed it on 11/01/02 and started having problems on 11/02/02.
htwaits
11-05-02, 01:30 AM
Originally posted by aaronwt
From what you wrote it looks like your problems started when you installed the VIA service pack. You installed it on 11/01/02 and started having problems on 11/02/02.
Yes that's right. The VIA update was the last change. After the VIA update the system worked for several hours. Then it was off until about 8:00 am the next morning. The failure started a little after 10:00 am.
Also, for several months, this system behaved in a similar manner maybe 1 out of 10 times that it was left in idle for several hours. The difference then was that reset would produce a normal reboot every time. Now, reset does nothing.
Thanks for the reply. We should be doing this with PM. I goofed: sorry.
HardlySoft
11-05-02, 03:21 AM
HiPix dev team (and Michael),
This may be a longshot given my non-standard system, but...
I have 3.5.2, and I can record fine to my internal hard drive. However, when I try to record to an external FireWire drive, I get AV stuttering. I've tried 2 different drives, both with the same result. If I record onto the internal drive, then move the files over to the FireWire drive, they play back correctly.
Given previous posts, I'm suspecting that DMA might be a problem--I don't seem to be able to set DMA for the FireWire drives.
Now for the non-standard part--I'm running a Dell 1Ghz Laptop, 512MB Ram, Win2k (SP3 & other updates). The HiPix is in a docking station. The FireWire drives are connected to the built-in 1394 port. Expolorer copies, camcorders, and a DVD-R drive all work flawlessly with FireWire.
I've tried isolating the drives, changing the FireWire cable, futzing with device manager, etc. I should probably be thankful that it works at all--it would just be so cool if I could get these large externals working (they were to be dedicated "HiPix" drives).
If you can help me, I'll tell you all about my idea for generating hi-def content at home!
Thanks!
tony@hardlysoft.com
ccclapp
11-05-02, 09:58 AM
Originally posted by HardlySoft
HiPix dev team (and Michael),
Now for the non-standard part--I'm running a Dell 1Ghz Laptop, 512MB Ram, Win2k (SP3 & other updates). The HiPix is in a docking station. The FireWire drives are connected to the built-in 1394 port. Expolorer copies, camcorders, and a DVD-R drive all work flawlessly with FireWire.
tony@hardlysoft.com
...I'll take "non-standard-part" one step further:
Is there anyway to put the HiPix in an external box to be connected to a PC (such as notebook or Progear) via USB, or some other external connection? This would help me a lot!
--Caleb
ccclapp
11-05-02, 10:01 AM
I have read that some users are having trouble finding HiPix to buy. Is there a riisk that they will permanently dry up, in which case we should stock up now...given the great present and future fretures of this tuner.
--Caleb
drbenson
11-06-02, 01:33 AM
Since the 3.5 thread has gone pretty inactive, I thought I'd try here to get suggestions on a BAD recurrent record problem I'm having.
It occurred this evening again. Had JAG set to record, as well as 24. JAG recorded fine, and since I was watching, I manually stopped the recording when the show was over. A minute or two later, HiPix changed the channel for 24, and began recording, but audio and picture went whacko- bad stutter, picture breakup, etc. I manually stopped recording, then started again- same result. Stopped recording manually again. In desperation, I popped out of fullscreen, went into Setup, and disabled preview window. Was able to manually start recording, and all went smoothly from there.
As I said, I have had this problem repeatedly. It seems to occur as HiPix switches channels for two back-to-back recordings. I went back and viewed the files created during the first two non-recordings, and the oddest thing occurred- the picture was frozen and pixellated, and only brief blurps of sound came out. I happened to watch the OSD while it was trying to play, and the seconds count would skip around, e.g. 12 14 13 14 18 17 18.... couldn't make out any pattern, but it would definitely go backward and display a previously skipped second.
I haven't seen this particular problem on the threads (though I could have missed something), so I figured I might have done something wrong on install. So I went to Midwinter and reinstalled everything- 3.5.2, patch, audio patch. Turned off and restarted computer, as instructed. To no avail.
Any suggestions from the assembled gurus? If I hadn't been home tonight, my wife and I would have been very disappointed campers- 24 is not a show where you can miss an episode with impunity!
drbenson
11-06-02, 02:41 AM
Further experimentation shows the problem is definitely a result of changing channels to record while VOP is enabled. It's like the system suddenly maxes out- with IDE activity light blinking and slow / iffy response to IR commands. Seems unlikely on an AMD Athlon XP 1700+ system!
I can do without VOP, but it is a reproducible bug.
Originally posted by drbenson
Further experimentation shows the problem is definitely a result of changing channels to record while VOP is enabled. It's like the system suddenly maxes out- with IDE activity light blinking and slow / iffy response to IR commands. Seems unlikely on an AMD Athlon XP 1700+ system!
I can do without VOP, but it is a reproducible bug.
I'm seeing the much the same thing with back-to-back recordings, when VOP is enabled, even without channel switching.
When the second show is due to start, the HiPix.exe starts using 100% CPU, and not recording. This is quite annoying, given that the default priority for the HiPix.exe process is "AboveNormal."
aaronwt
11-06-02, 10:36 PM
I had the same problem. I just changed the setting to disable VOP while recording. That solved the problem. I just use VOP for playback anyway.
drbenson
11-08-02, 11:10 AM
Not the problem, in my case- I never had the use VOP while recording checked in the first place, nor preview while in fullscreen.
Joseph S
11-08-02, 07:25 PM
I did something, but I don't know what.
I can longer receive sound out the spdif after hitting a button on my old pronto config. I've tried switching the sound between spdif to directsound to pcm and back, pushing mute and "un"mute, and various other items. Nothing seems to work and I don't know what I key I hit on my pronto. I am able to receive Hipix analog from the USB sonica.
Any ideas before I reinstall?
Since my HiPix (3.5.2 + latest patches) is pretty stable lately, I thought I'd try actually using the loopback cable -- which I've never done before -- to avoid the need to have separate outputs for dScaler and HiPix, along with a Dish 6000 receiver. These sources currently have to be switched through an Inday component switcher. I'd like to be able to just use the HiPix "F" hotkey to switch between the HTPC desktop and the HiPix output, leaving the Inday on the same input.
I rewired my HTPC according to the attached plan, which seems to follow the method shown on Digital Connection's
Cliff Notes (http://www.digitalconnection.com/Support/cliffnotes_14.htm). See Configuration #3. The only difference is that I have the Key Digital's VGA passthrough going to a 15" monitor for maintenance and monitoring purposes.
When I tried this plan, the desktop is displayed just fine on HDTV and monitor at either 960x540 or 856x484 (both 60hz) resolutions, but when I try to go into full screen with the "F" key or by clicking the "full screen" button, the HiPix output is shown on the monitor, but the HDTV (Mits WT46805) shows a blank blue screen, which it does when it's not receiving a displayable image. I set HiPix to output RGB to the Key Digital transcoder, and to use the loopback cable. The HiPix HDTV resolution is the usual 1920 x 1080i @ 60hz.
I've gone back to the old configuration for now (separate outputs from the HiPix via Component breakout cable, and the Radeon via Key Digital transcoder), so I can record HD tonight.
I know I must have a setting wrong somewhere. There must be someone who's successfully using this configuration? Or am I trying to do something that's impossible?
Mary - did you enable the loopback cable in the hipix setup?
Originally posted by markdl
Mary - did you enable the loopback cable in the hipix setup?
Yes, I did, as remarked above... "I set HiPix to output RGB to the Key Digital transcoder, and to use the loopback cable."
I know, there was a lot to read there! :D
WishIdInventedTivo
11-08-02, 11:55 PM
Originally posted by Joseph S
I did something, but I don't know what.
I can longer receive sound out the spdif after hitting a button on my old pronto config. I've tried switching the sound between spdif to directsound to pcm and back, pushing mute and "un"mute, and various other items. Nothing seems to work and I don't know what I key I hit on my pronto. I am able to receive Hipix analog from the USB sonica.
Any ideas before I reinstall?
Any possibility the problem is at your A/V receiver end, not HiPix? Maybe you accidentally changed the input #?
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