reVue 1.1 public testing begun

[ksb]

reVue 1.1 is now available for public testing.

(Because I had already started work on 1.1 when bugs were found in 1.0b10, I've skipped releasing 1.0 and am moving forward with a 1.1 alpha release. Note that "alpha" doesn't mean particularly "risky/buggy," just feature incomplete. Three private builds of 1.1a1 were worked on by the reVue test group before this one became available to you all.)

The key changes from 1.0 are:
1. Substantially better commercial detection with .evt files from 5000's.
2. Ability to create full-size or PcoketPC-sized videos in Windows Media format.
3. Change in terminology from "scene" to "block".
4. Ability to control more UI start-up options from the revue.xml file.
5. New, cleaner user-interface.
6. Secret developer-only features that you'll really like when I can release them.

NOTE: To install the new version you will need to uninstall the old one. Before doing so, make a backup of your revue.xml file if you had changed it. After installing, copy your file back to the reVue folder and edit the file to change the text "scene" to "block".

reVue 1.1a3 is available at http://inside.drexel.edu/ksb/revue/revue1.1a3.msi
The readme and other documents at that site have NOT been updated. (I wanted this to be a Christmas present; if I waited until I wrote the docs this would be a Valentine's or Memorial Day gift.)

I will be away for a few days and may not have network access. As such, I may not be responding. However, if the in-laws' neighbors still have an unsecured access point, I may be online and replying! ;-)

[tarfin]

Thanks for all the effort that goes into this Ken. Merry Christmas!


However, if the in-laws' neighbors still have an unsecured access point, I may be online and replying! ;-)

I LOVE free internet access. I have my own DSL/wireless solution but if I ever decide to get rid of it the neighbors are pretty generous with theirs. :D

[rickster]

Awesome!

Are all those configuration thingies for streaming new?

I don't remember them but can't check for sure because of course I had to remove the previous version before installing.

[brian7972]

For the millionth time Ken, thanks! http://forums.offtopic.com/images/smilies/wavey.gif

Question: "Ability to create full-size or PcoketPC-sized videos in Windows Media format."

How does one go about doing this? I couldn't see a "PoctetPC" sized option when creating new video (all the ones I created were 300+ MB for a half hour show. I'm obviously missing something.)

[jrgreenman]

Great work, as usual, Ken. Thanks for the early gift.

/snotty-on
Uh, guys. The word is PocketPC
/snotty-off :)

[brian7972]

Originally posted by jrgreenman
Great work, as usual, Ken. Thanks for the early gift.

/snotty-on
Uh, guys. The word is PocketPC
/snotty-off :)

Hey, I'm typing in the dark over here... http://forums.offtopic.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Clay Schneider]

woo-hoo !! Christmas comes early !!!

[ksb]

rickster, I'm not sure what "configuration thingies" your're talking about. Enhancement #4 has to do with setting up reVue to start at other sizes (or zoomed full-screen), with the mini-control bar, etc. Enhancement #6 has to do with reVue working with some other application -- let's leave it at that for now.

brian7972, choose the 208x160 or 320x240 sized videos from the popup list. (You are seeing 7 WME profiles, right?) You can create your own profiles, too. Just put them in the reVue WMEprofiles folder. Note that Windows loads the profiles in alphabetical order based on filename, but displays the "Description" of the profile rather than the filename.

jrgreenman, Brian just cut-and-pasted my typing. From now on, I shall refer to it at PcoketPC (pronounced P'coked-pick). ;-)

[jrgreenman]

Originally posted by ksb
jrgreenman, Brian just cut-and-pasted my typing. From now on, I shall refer to it at PcoketPC (pronounced P'coked-pick). ;-) Hehe. That's what I thought too, but following his cut-n-paste, he then referenced PocketPC again but with a different misspelling. That's what cracked me up. :)

[brian7972]

Originally posted by jrgreenman
Hehe. That's what I thought too, but following his cut-n-paste, he then referenced PocketPC again but with a different misspelling. That's what cracked me up. :)

That's because I was trying to fix ksb's typo! :D

[brian7972]

(You are seeing 7 WME profiles, right?)

Nope, I am seeing 4:

No video, just create a .evtdump file
Streaming MPEG (for PC or RTV playback)
Cleaned MPEG (for DVD authoring)
Demuxed MPEG (for DVD authoring)

Am I missing it? In the wrong menu ?

Thanks and Merry Christmas!

[ksb]

You won't see the WME profiles unless you have Windows Meda Encoder installed. Go to Microsoft's site, get it, install it, and restart reVue 1.1. --Ken

[brian7972]

That did the trick Ken - thanks!

[gpritch]

Help! - I can't get reView to work on my PC. After installation, I get the following error at start-up:

Index was out of range. Must be non-negative and less then the size of the collection. Parameter name:Index.

Any thoughts?, Please help.

GPritch

[waynethedvrguy]

Ken:

Thanks. Your perserverance has paid off. I appreciate your efforts on my behalf.

Regards and the best of the holiday season to all. A prosperous, happy..... and above all...healthy 2004 to everyone.

Wayne

[Cubfan]

Hmm, I'm new to this... just trying it for the first time, but I get an exception when I load it up...

"Cannot invoke property get of 'settings' at this time."

I have RTVTools downloaded, and I've pointed ReVue to the Win32 directory underneath.

[Cubfan]

Nevermind. I needed the .NET files, and all is well now.

[Bigjohns]

Voice seems out of synch with the 'mouth'... and some of the commercial cuts that I edited into the file seemed to be missed...

Is this a known issue, or related to PowerDVD on my pc or some other software?

Also, what's the best way to burn these onto CDR? Nero wants to re-encode, and that seems to be where the picture/sound synch happened now that I look back on the original mpg files...

Help.

John

[Cubfan]

I get sync problems with mine, too. Also, I get an error when trying to do the WMV files for the PocketPC (which is REALLY what I want to accomplish).

[Bargonaut]

I want to love reVue, but I can't get accurate times from within the app.
By 15 minutes into a RTV video, the cut times are already off by 30 seconds. For example, the scene in question appears at 00:14:15 in VirtualDub-MPEG2 and even in WMP9, but in reVue the same scene clocks at 00:14:45. As a consequence, the edits cut at the wrong places. The discrepancy is too large to overlook.

Any thoughts on why reVue computes such different times for the video?

-BS

[ksb]

reVue gets its times from WMP9 so I don't know how they could differ. VirtualDub is using a different (and more accurate) timing than WMP so I can see how that would differ. However, I haven't heard anyone else report such bad timings and can't replicate it myself.

How long is the video?
On what model Replay was it recorded on?
Do you have a way of uploading the mpg and evt/ndx so that I can work with them?

[Bigjohns]

Originally posted by ksb
reVue gets its times from WMP9 so I don't know how they could differ. VirtualDub is using a different (and more accurate) timing than WMP so I can see how that would differ. However, I haven't heard anyone else report such bad timings and can't replicate it myself.

How long is the video?
On what model Replay was it recorded on?
Do you have a way of uploading the mpg and evt/ndx so that I can work with them?

I'm a newbie with this program, but I'll be happy to try to replicate my problem. Didn't i read in some thread somewhere that there was a synch problem with WM9 installed?

John

[bunsen]

Is it possible to join two mpegs with reVue?

[ksb]

No, reVue doesn't join video yet (it may if I enhance the playlist support). The RTVtools can do it, I think. There are also lots of other programs that can join various video files.

[JohnHeller]

Hi Ken, I've been downloading and running your betas for a while now. They all install and run fine for me up through the latest 1.1a1bld4; thing is, I can't figure out how to do anything with ReVue....

I can play shows, jump around in them by moving the green pointer, but nothing useful.

What I'd like to do is mark the start and end of video segments and save them out as seperate files and the program sure looks like it should do that?

I realize you are going great guns writing code, but would you consider stoping for a short while and putting in a help section?

Thanks

[Bargonaut]

Originally posted by ksb
reVue gets its times from WMP9 so I don't know how they could differ. VirtualDub is using a different (and more accurate) timing than WMP so I can see how that would differ. However, I haven't heard anyone else report such bad timings and can't replicate it myself.

I thought that was strange, which is why I checked in WM9, too. I know many systems
vary in which codecs are installed and active for the video.

When I get properties in reVue on the source video, it reports the Video codec as:
CyberLink Video/SP Decoder

After being rtvedited and rtvconverted, reVue reports the codec to be:
Ligos MPEG Video Decoder


How long is the video?
On what model Replay was it recorded on?
Do you have a way of uploading the mpg and evt/ndx so that I can work with them?

It's a 2hr recording (med quality) from a 5080. It's very large (3.2GB),
but I'd be happy to burn it to DVD and mail you a copy. Send me a PM.

FWIW, I have no A/V sync issues whether I play back with WM9, VirtualDub or PowerDVD (XP v4).

-BS

[bonnie_raitt]

I'm new to Revue and ReplayTV so bear with me please.

First I have read the manual for Revue. I have read this and a few other threads on Revue.

I have a 5504. I copy the video (CSI) down to my PC with DVArchive. I use Revue to open the video (does it matter whether you open the .evt or the .ndx).

First I notice that the commercial breaks are off a bit. In this case, they start and end to early. I had a bit of trouble using the editor to change the starting and ending times (mostly by inserting new breaks and labling).

When I'm done, I save it (as a .rsi)

Next, I save to video and mpg for DVD (CLN). When done, I still have some or all of the commercials. Can anyone give me some clues about where I'm going wrong?

Thanks

[ksb]

BR, I'm guessing that you set the AutoSkip scheme to "off" to work on the edits. If so, when you go into the Create New Video dialog, make sure that you select "On" as the AutoSkip scheme to use for block selection. If that's not it, let me know. --Ken

[ren]

I really like reVue. It save me a lot of time. I have one question that I couldn't find anywhere. Does reVue do batch processing?

Thanks

[ksb]

ren, no, there's no batch processing in reVue. It's a low-priority task on my to-do list, but don't hold your breath. Since the RTVtools are command-line driven, you can write batch files to use rtvedit and/or rtvocnvert.

[FlipFlop]

ksb:

I'm not sure if this is a reVue problem or just a rtvedit problem, but if you have periods in the filename for things other than the file extension, the 'create new video' will fail to run. For example "Dr. Seuss.mpg" causes problems.

[bonnie_raitt]

Originally posted by ksb
BR, I'm guessing that you set the AutoSkip scheme to "off" to work on the edits. If so, when you go into the Create New Video dialog, make sure that you select "On" as the AutoSkip scheme to use for block selection. If that's not it, let me know. --Ken

I was pretty sure I did that but went back and did it again to verify. This time it acted the same as before. I did some more investigating and here are a couple of additional observations.

1. I used the "Edit show information" option to edit the start times for each segment. My process was that I watched the video and observed when the break occurred between content and commercial. I then went in and changed the time and clicked update. I noticed a couple of things after this process:
a. Each time I did it, a new scene of 0 length was inserted at the beginning of the rsi file.
b. When I went back to play the video w/ revue, the observed time for the break between content and commercial was different. (I suspect somehow the 0 length scenes inserted at the beginning of the rsi file had something to do with it.

2. After "saving to video" again, I looked more closely at the created video. I think I mispoke before about what was happening. It appears that Revue is indeed removing the scenes labled "commercials" but the timing is somehow being thrown off. In this case, I put the first commercial break at 2:43. The rsi file reflects this, I saw this time being used in the DOS window at the file was being created. When I watch the newly created file, at 2:37 the 1st scene ends and a commercail begins. At 3:03 is where Revue chooses to start removing the commercial.

Any ideas or test that you would like for me to try. Thanks for you help

[Norbert]

Originally posted by Cubfan
I Also, I get an error when trying to do the WMV files for the PocketPC (which is REALLY what I want to accomplish).

Cubfan,

I used reVue to edit the files for content then used Windows Movie Maker to do the convert. I have not tried it with the latest reVue, but it worked wonderfully on my Dell Axim w/ Pocket PC 2002. I was able to take an hour program and edit it to 42 minutes, go from a 800 MB file to a 630 MB file, convert to pocket PC and get it to 63MB and fit on a 128MB CF card with a 30 minute program as well.

[kamtom]

I gotta say this little ap rocks hard..

One question.. i just got a Palm Tunsten E for x-mas.. is there a way to play these wmf on the Palm OS? and if not is there a place i can download encoders that will work with Revue to play files on my Palm?

Thanks Guys..

TOM

[LaserDick]

Darn, you added UNDo... that is a lifesaver for fat thumbs like mine. Thanks!

[Jeffreymb]

Hi KSB,

Thank You!! I'm very impressed with your ReVue. Was a little daunting for me at first as I have never edited video before. Undo really IS a great feature. I just played around with it extensively on a 15 hour flight to Hong Kong. Still making mistakes in my cuts, but getting better. Can't wait for the new releases!!

Kudos to you and Happy New Year!

[ksb]

Jeffreymb, finally, someone is using this is they're supposeed to -- on an airplane! I came up with the idea while flying back from Geneva. I'm somewhat embarrassed to say that I hadn't actually used reVue until the 29th when I flew back from the in-laws. It was very nice to watch shows an have the commercials skipped. I know that it raised some eyebrows on the plane.

[Bargonaut]

Originally posted by bonnie_raitt

2. After "saving to video" again, I looked more closely at the created video. I think I mispoke before about what was happening. It appears that Revue is indeed removing the scenes labled "commercials" but the timing is somehow being thrown off.
[...]
Any ideas or test that you would like for me to try. Thanks for you help

I see very similar problems with timing. If you read your mpeg file into VirtualDub-MPEG2, do the scene times match the reVue block times?
You can just dump the rtvedit output (evtdump) from reVue and compare.
For me they can be off more than 30 seconds.

The times calculated in VirtualDub are very precise, and create perfect cuts with rtvedit (using the -t1 switch). ReVue should be close to these times, but not exact -- there will be some drift, but only on the order of a second. Hopefully, we can help Ken pinpoint the discrepancy.

-BS

[jdfrey1]

Originally posted by Bargonaut

The times calculated in VirtualDub are very precise, and create perfect cuts with rtvedit (using the -t1 switch). ReVue should be close to these times, but not exact -- there will be some drift, but only on the order of a second. Hopefully, we can help Ken pinpoint the discrepancy.

-BS

This is a known issue with reVue and more importantly with rtvEdit. rtvEdit only will cut on an I-frame. When given a time it finds the closest I-frame to do the cut. This will cause errors of up to a half a second. I think that there is a compiled quatization error with ReVue though as it too rounds the time of the cut and doesn't use the -t1 option. I think it would to be able to get this issue addressed but it sounds like it is not something that will be supported any time soon. For some seeing a blip of the end of the commercial is not a big deal. For me, I like to have good cuts and I can't get that with reVue and rtvEdit. That's why I'm still using Womble.

This is however a completely different issue than being 30 seconds out of sync. For me this problem was fixed by trimming out all of the bad mpeg2 decoders using G-spot, installing a good one, and using the old version of mpeg2splt.ax that was discussed in the beta thread.

Please don't take this as a slam on reVue. I have been following the development for quite awhile and it is very promising. I too really want it to meet my needs but it just falls short. Granted it is not all attributed to reVue as the limitations of WMP and rtvEdit are also included. I'm not complaining, but I'm stating the reasons why I'm not currently using it to produce my edit videos.

[Wrecks]

It would be great if reVue would automatically put numbers in scene descriptions. I.E. instead of calling each content scene "Unnamed Content scene" call the first one "Unnamed Content scene 001" and then call the next one "Unnamed Content scene 002" etc.

I like to process mine as seperate files (so I can make selectable chapters on the DVD) and unless I go through and rename all of them, the EVT tools process writes over the same file over and over again on the same run leaving me with just the last scene remaining.

Did I make this request clear? I doubt it...

[DavidEC]

Timing of new ReVue beta 1.1a1?

I loaded the program on my system after haveing the older version installed...

I loaded a 2-hour 13-minute program....

ReVue is telling me the program is only 23-minutes long?!?!

Hu?

--David

[ksb]

reVue does number the scenes. From your description of the scene names, it sounds like you have an earlier version. 1.1a2 build 1 will be out this weekend. Sit tight for a day or so, get it, and see if your problem goes away.

[liunam]

Hi,

I get an "Application has generated an exception that could not be handled. Process id=0x52c (1324), Thread id=0x470(1136)" error message when I run revue.

I tried both the 1.0b9 and 1.1a1bld4 releases and they both crash upon startup. I am running it on a fresh Win2K SP4 install. Hardware consists of a Shuttle AN35N Ultra/AMD2500XP/512MB ram.

Help....:confused:

[DavidEC]

Originally posted by ksb
reVue does number the scenes. From your description of the scene names, it sounds like you have an earlier version. 1.1a2 build 1 will be out this weekend. Sit tight for a day or so, get it, and see if your problem goes away.

While I know your work is "Freeware" currently.. I have been looking forward to "...this weekend.." that I thought was the weekend of 01/03/04 .... but no real date was listed...

So I am sitting here with my mouth watering for the next version..

--David

[czachari]

I have visual studio 2003 and the .Net framework 1.1 installed on this machine

Thanks

CZ

[liunam]

Originally posted by liunam
Hi,

I get an "Application has generated an exception that could not be handled. Process id=0x52c (1324), Thread id=0x470(1136)" error message when I run revue.

I tried both the 1.0b9 and 1.1a1bld4 releases and they both crash upon startup. I am running it on a fresh Win2K SP4 install. Hardware consists of a Shuttle AN35N Ultra/AMD2500XP/512MB ram.

Help....:confused:

Nevermind. After three fresh Windows 2000 installs :eek: , I finally got it to run.... I had to install WMP9......

[Bigjohns]

I love reVue... I really Really REALLY do...

but it seems to miss LOTS of the commercial cuts that -I- edit.

Here is what I do...

I play through the video file that I transfer to my PC with DVarchive.
As I go, I'll pause the video when a commercial starts, open the menu and edit the show information. I'll change the timestamp on that segment, then update it, then save show info. Then I resume playback and move forward and back to make sure the cut is timed right... sometimes I have to change it by a second or 2...

When I'm finished hopping through the file, I check all the segments again by selecting them fromt he drop-down list.

Then I create a new video.

The first cuts seem to work, but here and there there will be 10 seconds of commercial, and sometimes 5-15 seconds of missed show following it!

Am I doing something wrong?

John

[bunsen]

Originally posted by Bigjohns
I love reVue... I really Really REALLY do...

but it seems to miss LOTS of the commercial cuts that -I- edit.

Here is what I do...

I play through the video file that I transfer to my PC with DVarchive.
As I go, I'll pause the video when a commercial starts, open the menu and edit the show information. I'll change the timestamp on that segment, then update it, then save show info. Then I resume playback and move forward and back to make sure the cut is timed right... sometimes I have to change it by a second or 2...

When I'm finished hopping through the file, I check all the segments again by selecting them fromt he drop-down list.

Then I create a new video.

The first cuts seem to work, but here and there there will be 10 seconds of commercial, and sometimes 5-15 seconds of missed show following it!

Am I doing something wrong?

John

When you edit the show info, are you also changing the designation of the segment to commercial?

[Bigjohns]

no, because I'm not adding segments. I'm changing the start time of the existing 'commercial' or program block.

John

[liunam]

I think reVue takes the segment information from the evtdump output. I used the command line rtvtools before I could get reVue to work and I noticed that rtvedit often "misses the cut" as well. (I think reVue uses the same program for editing.)

I had to manually edit the evtdump output by trial and error until I'm satisfied that I got the segments corrected.

I suspect this is not the fault of the rtvtools suite but rather the RTV event file itself. My RTV sometimes misses entire showe segments when I use the Show/Nav button.

[Bigjohns]

Originally posted by liunam
I think reVue takes the segment information from the evtdump output. I used the command line rtvtools before I could get reVue to work and I noticed that rtvedit often "misses the cut" as well. (I think reVue uses the same program for editing.)

I had to manually edit the evtdump output by trial and error until I'm satisfied that I got the segments corrected.

I suspect this is not the fault of the rtvtools suite but rather the RTV event file itself. My RTV sometimes misses entire showe segments when I use the Show/Nav button.
Unless I'm mistaken, what you say is true - however the .evt file is what reVue is using to create the program blocks. So, if i'm editing the start time for those program blocks, (moving them forward when Replay catches the commercials late, and backward when replay tags them early) the cuts should occur on the time marks I've indicated, not 10, 15, 5 seconds off in either direction, righ?

John

[FlipFlop]

Originally posted by Bigjohns
I love reVue... I really Really REALLY do...

but it seems to miss LOTS of the commercial cuts that -I- edit.


This is a problem related to timecodes and DirectX 9. When DirectX 9 is installed, the timecodes returned by WMP don't match the timecodes used by rtvedit, and the cuts don't work.

Since you can't uninstall DirectX 9, the only known workaround is to manually remove the mpg2splt.ax file installed by DirectX9 and replace it with the mpg2splt.ax file installed by DirectX 8. This fixes the problem for me. There may be unknown side effects of using the older file, however.

See also:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2954380&highlight=mpg2splt.ax#post2954380

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2911762&highlight=mpg2splt.ax#post2911762

[liunam]

:mad:

I missed your posts! In my search of the right software combination needed to get reVue to run (I kept getting the exception error when I launch the program), I installed DirectX9 (which still gave me the exception error) before I installed WMP 9 (which took away the error).

I'll try it tonight. Thanks....

[Bigjohns]

Originally posted by FlipFlop
This is a problem related to timecodes and DirectX 9. When DirectX 9 is installed, the timecodes returned by WMP don't match the timecodes used by rtvedit, and the cuts don't work.

Since you can't uninstall DirectX 9, the only known workaround is to manually remove the mpg2splt.ax file installed by DirectX9 and replace it with the mpg2splt.ax file installed by DirectX 8. This fixes the problem for me. There may be unknown side effects of using the older file, however.

See also:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2954380&highlight=mpg2splt.ax#post2954380

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2911762&highlight=mpg2splt.ax#post2911762

any first hand info on side-effects?

[shawnharper]

Ken (all) -

After successfully using previous reVue versions in the past, I can't get the current 1.0b9 to work correctly. The audio is out of sync (it IS in sync if I use VLC, however), the quickskip buttons do not work for me, and I cannot navigate to other parts of the show just by clicking on the "bar."

Any ideas what my problem might be?

(I have WMP 9.00.00.3075)

Thanks.

[FlipFlop]

Originally posted by Bigjohns
any first hand info on side-effects?
I haven't noticed any side effects, and I've been using this method on 2 computers for a while now. But mixing DLL versions can cause problems, so you never know.

[Bigjohns]

Originally posted by FlipFlop
I haven't noticed any side effects, and I've been using this method on 2 computers for a while now. But mixing DLL versions can cause problems, so you never know.

Well FLipFlop - perfecto. It worked.

and no 'side effects' so far

thanks!

[no_nothing]

Got my DVD burner for Christmas, talked my wife into RePlayTV on New Years, found out about you guys a few days ago, and haven't slept much since. This software is amazing, as is all of the support everyone puts in to making it work better. Thank you so much KSB and thanks to all of the others who post here.

I'm trying to set up a good workflow for myself, and would appreciate any advice people might offer. My ultimate goal is to take a home movie from video to DVD as quickly and simply as possible. I use manual record to put the movies on RePlay,move them to the PC with DVArchive, clean them up with ReVue, and now I'm working at burning them to DVD.

Here's the question....I'd like to know what people use to complete the final mile here. The burner came with Sonic MyDVD, but that's a little lite, to say the least. I've tried DVDLab, but that's a little too complicated, and ULead DVD Workshop. Not bad, but not perfect. All I really want is something that I can set up basic menus on (auto chapters, perhaps) and burn them onto disks.

Anyone who'd like to share their workflow would be much appreciated. What program do you use? What are the pros and cons? Do you go with clean or demuxed files when you use it? Any advice is great.

And thanks again for all the hard work...there are a lot of people who appreciate it and say nothing...

[shawnharper]

Check out this thread... Lots of techniques, centered around the same theme and nearly the same tools.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=344824

Edit: ooops, posted this in the wrong thread. sorry.

[ksb]

1.1a2 is fixed now.

Well, I capped off a busy week by flying from Philly to Vegas for one day (albeit a 26 hour day!) at CES. I'm back, rested, and releasing alpha 2 at http://inside.drexel.edu/ksb/revue/reVue-1.1a2.msi

Note that while this version makes no changes to the revue.xml file, the next alpha will likely require significant changes. More on this later.

Here is the 1.1a2 section of the release notes included with the installer:

1.1a2 2004-01-10 8:30 PM EST
-------------------------------

Changes
-------
1. Move UI changes in the form of button moves to make room for ehancement #3.

Enhancements
------------
1. In the Create New Video dialog box, added a "-t1" option for etvedit.
This is temporary and was added to see if it helps anyone with timings.
I think that it won't, but figured that this may quite some. ;-)
2. Added a show duration label next to the playback time.
3. Added Fast Forward and Rewind buttons for non-Replay videos. (They'll
auto-hide if WMP cannot control playback speed on the currently opened
video.)
4. First phase of integration to another program is done.

Bugs Fixed
----------
1. Show or block names containing dots no longer cause Create New Video to fail.
2. Changed "Scene" to "Block" in a few more places.
3. Fixed bug that prevented files with the ".mpeg" extension from opening.
4. May have caught the last ".settings" problem.
5. Fixed bug where current position indicator under BlockBar was not updating.

[krkaufman]

Originally posted by ksb
... I'm ...releasing alpha 2 ... (reVue-1.1a2.msi)

Ken,

I uninstalled my previous version (1.1a1,bld4) and installed the new one, but it won't start. When trying to start reVue 1.1a2, the window pops up only for a nanosecond -- almost too brief to see/notice.

Let me know if there's anything I can do to identify the root cause of the problem.

THanks..!

Karl K.

p.s. I've uninstalled 1.1a2 and reinstalled my previous version OK.

[ksb]

Karl,

Oops! It's fixed now. You'll need to go get 1.1a2 again. The bug was in some code releated to feature enhancement #4. Sorry about that!

--Ken

[icecow]

I downloaded 1.1a2 just minutes ago and it runs

cow

[krkaufman]

Originally posted by ksb
When reVue 1.0 "creates" a new video, it really runs rtvedit and rtvconvert (from Lee Thompson's excellent RTVtools)...Found this comment in the previous reVue 1.0 thread (thanks, Ken); I'd been wondering whether reVue was feeding newly created videos through rtvconvert. Obviously (now!), rtvconvert post-processing is done only when you select either of the "for DVD authoring" output options (and where the "-d" option is passed along for the "demuxed" option). Nice touch.

Also, FYI... I've added a feature request to the reVue SourceForge page (https://sourceforge.net/projects/revue/) asking for the ability to open the rtvtools batch conversion text output to an editor. (EDIT: Have already added 4 feature requests. : )

Thanks for everything, Ken. ..! (program, responsiveness, Sourceforge page, etc.)

Regards,
Karl K.

[krkaufman]

Originally posted by ksb
Oops! It's fixed now. You'll need to go get 1.1a2 again. The bug was in some code releated to feature enhancement #4. Sorry about that! Yep, that fixed it. T H A N K S...!

[Bigjohns]

Originally posted by ksb
1.1a2 is fixed now.

Well, I capped off a busy week by flying from Philly to Vegas for one day (albeit a 26 hour day!) at CES. I'm back, rested, and releasing alpha 2 at http://inside.drexel.edu/ksb/revue/reVue-1.1a2.msi

Note that while this version makes no changes to the revue.xml file, the next alpha will likely require significant changes. More on this later.

Here is the 1.1a2 section of the release notes included with the installer:

1.1a2 2004-01-10 8:30 PM EST
-------------------------------

Changes
-------
1. Move UI changes in the form of button moves to make room for ehancement #3.

Enhancements
------------
1. In the Create New Video dialog box, added a "-t1" option for etvedit.
This is temporary and was added to see if it helps anyone with timings.
I think that it won't, but figured that this may quite some. ;-)
2. Added a show duration label next to the playback time.
3. Added Fast Forward and Rewind buttons for non-Replay videos. (They'll
auto-hide if WMP cannot control playback speed on the currently opened
video.)
4. First phase of integration to another program is done.

Bugs Fixed
----------
1. Show or block names containing dots no longer cause Create New Video to fail.
2. Changed "Scene" to "Block" in a few more places.
3. Fixed bug that prevented files with the ".mpeg" extension from opening.
4. May have caught the last ".settings" problem.
5. Fixed bug where current position indicator under BlockBar was not updating.

Ahh bug 5 was really agrivating me... also, I have noticed that in the last 'commercial' block, hitting pause does not stop the replay - it simply SLOMOs...

And could you add a status bar for 'creating new video'? Also, should it not stop playback when its creating?

John

PS - can you not modify the MSI file so that it over-writes old versions rather than making us uninstall? Just curious.

[ksb]

John, I'll look into the slo-mo problem. There is a status bar for creating Windows Media files (because WME does a callback), but not for the RTVtools, although I'm looking into it. If I do do it, it'll be a hack rather than a professional job.

If someone tells me how to make the MSI install over an already-installed version, I'll do it. I never used MSI's before this project and haven't had time to learn how to do them right.

[JenEric]

Think you just set the "RemovePreviousVersions" to "True", then it will "check for previous versions and uninstall them if found."

[bshor]

Would this program allow the creation of DivX/Mpeg4 videos? I've been archiving my shows manually with Vidomi this way.

[Wasatch Rider]

Everytime I load a video into revueI get the "revue.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close." message. Any ideas why?

[shawnharper]

Ken -

Still having the issue of "quickskip and instant replay" will not work. Can you check out my PM?

Thanks.

[Bigjohns]

Revue seems to have a bit of trouble with large files too... and perhaps a bit of a resource leak? As I get toward the end of a 2 hour episode (Battlestar Galactica) it becomes harder and harder to navigate the movie...

It creates a perfect output when it's all done, but I did the first hour in 5 minutes, it took almost 15 to finish the second one.... After I finished making the edited mpg, I exited revue. About 10 minutes later I loaded it up again to edit the part2 of BG... and it's moving very very slow from the very begining... I'm going to have to wait and see if this is a problem after rebooting the PC, but I'm transfering files with RTVarchive right now.


John

[DavidEC]

Originally posted by ksb
Karl,

Oops! It's fixed now. You'll need to go get 1.1a2 again. The bug was in some code releated to feature enhancement #4. Sorry about that!

--Ken

Ken -

I am having a bit of trouble here..

Ever since updating to the newest release my time line has been all messed up.. I am only seeing the first five or so minutes listed in the time line.
I tried to reinstall an older version and it also now is only allowing access to the first five or so minutes of the file..

I can run 'tools' from a prompt and all the data is there?

Could there some 'temp' file that is not getting deleted??

Is there any way to confirm a 'clean uninstall' so that a 'clean install' can happen?

--David

[timg11]

I am also experiencing the slow response and slow motion problems at the end of files that Bigjohns reported. Not necessarily with large files, but even 1/2 hour TV shows. Stopping in the last commercial break will often cause the video to play slow-motion. After clicking around the video a few times, the response time will become much longer. It will take about 15-20 seconds for the video to resume playing at the new point.

After using reVue for a while, it will eventually stop responding when clicking to a new point on the timeline. The cursor will become an hourglass and the title bar will get the "Not Responding" notice.

This seems to be a progressive problem. First it slows down, and if you keep using the program, it will eventually completely stop responding.

I try to perform my edits with a minimum amount of jumping around, and stop and re-start reVue as often as possible.

[ksb]

Folks, I've put up a new build (1.1a5) at reVue.sourceForge.net (http://revue.sourceforge.net).

reVue needs to move to the back burner for a while. If anyone here wants to pick up the development baton, let me know.

-Ken

P.S. This build doesn't have any code in it to address the "plays really slow near the end" problem that a few folks have reported recently. But, who knows, maybe the problem went away on its own...

[DavidEC]

Originally posted by ksb
Folks, I've put up a new build (1.1a5) at reVue.sourceForge.net (http://revue.sourceforge.net).

reVue needs to move to the back burner for a while. If anyone here wants to pick up the development baton, let me know....

Ouch!!

Here is what is happening to me currently...

When a video loads
Only about the first five minutes are displayed in the 'colored time line.
BUT
all the commercials and content is listed in the drop down box
UNTIL
I do one of two things.. try to play past the first five minutes
OR
Pull up the edit box and try to edit the shows tiimes..
Then every thing is reduced to showing only the same five minutes or so...

If this was a basic program I would say that the array was not big enough and was storing only the first three events in the time line...

I have tried to uninstall reVue and 'NET1.1 and that did not make any change to the way the program was acting on my system?!?!

--David

Notice that the time line is stating the program is only 5:48 minutes long yet the drop down shows the full aprox 30 minute program time.. If I pull up the edit menu only the first three items are listed and after exiting the edit menu only the first three items are listed in the drop down box?!?!?

http://home.swbell.net/dec2955/revue/dropdown.jpg

[DavidEC]

MS-MediaPlayer-

While I have not tried the following.. As I just left a web site that a person was having a 'LIKE' trouble with a different software package...

I am NOT using the standard SKIN with media player... I am using a custom SKIN..

Do you think that this could be the cause of the incorrect time trobules?

--David


[SIZE=3]Update[/SIZE]:

Re-set MS-MediaPlayer back to the standard 'Classic ' skin and that did not correct my current troubles.

[Bigjohns]

Look through this thread for 'time synch' problems. There is a post that describes removing and re-registering some ms-mpeg files.. this fixed problems for me.

I've not installed the new beta, however.

John

[ksb]

I know that it's not a big help, but I am not having the problem (or else I would not have released this version).

[DavidEC]

I am unsure of which fixed my error but the bug seems to of gone away for now...

In the registry I did the following:

In the keys:

My Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\{1FAF4E00-1546-4EE2-AC15-2B355311D847}

Changed:
EstimatedSize REG_DWORD
From: 5
To: 0

{I was only getting the first five minutes of a file to load and edit correctly..??}

ALSO

My Computer\HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-1487682723-4283021946-2165517387-1003\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam\MUICache

Deleted any references to reVue.


Now reVue is working correctly for me...

--David

A few hours later...
[SIZE=3][COLOR=crimson][FONT=courier new]UGG!! [/FONT] [/COLOR] [/SIZE]

Well the bug is back.. but in a different way... I can load orignal RTV files with no troubles now.. but if I try to load a edited/cleaned or raw mpeg file from other sources I still get the time line errors......
BUT
I can now state the following.. what seems to be happening when I load a 'CLN' file the time line is being trounced by adding an extra ZERO at the start of the time.. so if the file should be 020:20.355 in legnth.. when reloaded the time line reads and tries to edit the file as if it was only 002:02.035 in legnth....???

[rmanaka]

I've found that for the past two beta releases, under some conditions ReVue is not exiting properly (or DVArchive does not see that ReVue has terminated) and is keeping some process open with javaw.exe.

Loading Windows Taskmaster shows 100%CPU load, and the process javaw.exe bouncing around the high 90's.

If I ignore the javaw.exe high CPU, I can continue to load and use ReVue (as well as other apps) but the system response will go down and down until it is at a crawl.

Terminating DVArchive will terminate javaw.exe and give back the CPU cycles.

I also get the slomo play when ReVue plays into a terminal commercial segment. In that case I click on a content segment and click pause. No issues with the spawned RTVtools processes in this case (but I don't know how this affects the javaw.exe situation).

Using 1a5.

[DavidEC]

Originally posted by DavidEC

A few hours later...
[SIZE=3][COLOR=crimson][FONT=courier new]UGG!! [/FONT] [/COLOR] [/SIZE]

Well the bug is back.. but in a different way... I can load orignal RTV files with no troubles now.. but if I try to load a edited/cleaned or raw mpeg file from other sources I still get the time line errors......
BUT
I can now state the following.. what seems to be happening when I load a 'CLN' file the time line is being trounced by adding an extra ZERO at the start of the time.. so if the file should be 020:20.355 in legnth.. when reloaded the time line reads and tries to edit the file as if it was only 002:02.035 in legnth....???

[SIZE=4]A few more hours later...[/SIZE]

The error is now only happening
[SIZE=4] [COLOR=blue]IF [/COLOR][/SIZE]
[1] Raw MPEG from another source. [TV Tuner Card.. Web]
[2] Mpeg has been 'CLEANED' for DVD editing and has the 'CLN' attached to the files name.

[SIZE=4] [COLOR=blue]IF [/COLOR][/SIZE]
[1] The file has been saved for playback to a "RTV" the time line is correct.
[2] The file is an orignal "RTV" file the time line is correct.

--David

[Bigjohns]

no problems for me with a5...

but I got ONE big request -

Let me choose the OUTPUT directory when I'm making a new video!!!!! Please??

John

[back40]

Any way that I can obtain older releases of revue? Only 1.1a5 is available on the official site, which appears to be DOA for some, including me (It crashes as soon as I try to open a file).

Thanks...

[ksb]

Older versions of reVue are still at the old site.

http://inside.drexel.edu/ksb/revue/revue-X.msi where "X" is:
For reVue 1.0 betas: 1.0b[5-9] (betas 5 through 9 are available)
For reVue 1.1 alpha: 1.1a[1-3] (alphas 1 through 3 are available, a3 was buggy)

Also, the final release of 1.0 is at http://inside.drexel.edu/ksb/revue/revue-1.0.msi

I noted in another thread today that I've been very busy at work lately (and am now an Associate VP instead of a Director!), have had three hard drive failures in a month (including this morning), and have lost the source code to 1.1a4 and 1.1a5. I don't expect to get back to reVue until the end of the month so there won't be anything new for a while.

--Ken

[Bigjohns]

Originally posted by ksb
Older versions of reVue are still at the old site.


I noted in another thread today that I've been very busy at work lately (and am now an Associate VP instead of a Director!), have had three hard drive failures in a month (including this morning), and have lost the source code to 1.1a4 and 1.1a5. I don't expect to get back to reVue until the end of the month so there won't be anything new for a while.

--Ken

Congrats on the promotion! Hope a bag of money came with it! You'll need some to replace all those hard drives!!

John
now if only I could find a good job in atlanta....

[back40]

Originally posted by ksb
Older versions of reVue are still at the old site.

http://inside.drexel.edu/ksb/revue/revue-X.msi where "X" is:
For reVue 1.0 betas: 1.0b[5-9] (betas 5 through 9 are available)
For reVue 1.1 alpha: 1.1a[1-3] (alphas 1 through 3 are available, a3 was buggy)

Also, the final release of 1.0 is at http://inside.drexel.edu/ksb/revue/revue-1.0.msi



I grabbed 1.0 and 1.1a2 and I'm having the same problem on all 3 versions I've tried. Revue starts up, then I get an unhandled exception when I try and open a file. I have .NET 1.1 installed from the link suggested in the installer.

Any thoughts?

Thanks...

P.S. Congrats on the promotion. What are you VP of?

[ksb]

I'm Associate Vice President of Enterprise Technology and Infrastructure for Drexel University in Philadelphia. (I can't drop that "Associate" or I'm treading on my boss' job; he's VP/CIO.)

Drexel loves technology. We had the first across-the-board computer requirement for all incoming students back in 1983 (the first three truckloads of Macs were sent to Drexel and they had the university logo painted on by Apple at the factory), we had a fully wireless campus network (indoors and outdoors) back in 2000, our President is an engineer and a bit of a tech geek, and at least a few of the AVPs in addition to me can code in a variety of languages.

It's a good place to have my job. An entrepreneurial spirit is valued at Drexel. We played "white knight" in 1998 and saved a school from bankruptcy then "took it over" in 2002 (and went from having nothing to do with the health sciences to having both a College of Nursing and the largest private College of Medicine in the U.S.). In doing so, we realized that we were effectively an application service provider. We ran with that and started letting other schools outsource IT to us. We now provide services of one sort or another to 32 other colleges and universities and can use the proceeds to raise the level of IT services offered at Drexel. It's a classic win-win situation. We are now in talks with several other schools looking to us to run some things for them. (If we end up doing those schools, we may be looking for some IT directors and other IT folks in about 6-9 months.)

--Ken

[IFLYSWA]

Hi all,
I am having the timing issues that are apparently caused by DirectX 9. Is there any chance of this issue going away without reregistering the file mentioned from DirectX 8, or should I be looking at doing that? I just built this PC (my first attempt!), and I really would prefer to keep from doing anything that might make it flaky, at least for awhile. Just thought I'd ask. And for the record, I really like reVue! With the exception of the problem I am having, things couldn't be smoother. Record the show, d/l to DVArchive, play and edit using reVue, let reVue use rtvtools create a video for DVD burning, then use Sonic MyDVD 4.5 to burn it...no audio sync errors or anything else noted except the edits not taking that I'd done.

Thanks!
Randy

P.S. Congrats on the promotion! RH

[back40]

So no thougths on what is causing the Unhandled Exception error when I try and open a file?

[krkaufman]

Any idea why I'm not getting the "Preferences" choice on the reVue menu? (versions 1.1a3 & a5)

[ksb]

The Preferences... item is now under the Edit menu instead of the File menu.

[krkaufman]

Originally posted by ksb
The Preferences... item is now under the Edit menu instead of the File menu. Thanks, Kenneth...!!! I *thought* I was running 1.1a5 at home, but must not be. (Am setting the tools up on my nephews computer.)

THANKS!

[Zadkiel]

I have just installed Revue 1.1a5 and I seem to be having the same issues as some others in this thread.
The scenes when loading the mpg initially are off, then after setting them correctly to the frame and saving the Video, the cut scenes are off by a 5-15 seconds. Thus I get a 5-15 seconds of commercial and miss a 5-15 seconds of the show.
I am running:
Windows XP w/sp1
Revue 1.1a5
.NET Framework 1.1
Windows Media Player 9
Direct X9.0b
mpg2splt.ax version 6.3.1.881 (I unreg'd the old one/and reg'd the new one)
RTVTools rev 4

Any thoughts?

[antibody128]

Is it possible that Revue does this with all 5XXX generated videos? I know it was originally written for 4XXX's and 5XXX support came later. I have a 5040 myself and this same thing happens for me (I've installed most of the Revue releases and currently use 1.1a3).

[Bixit219]

One thing I noticed (a bug?), is if you have skip commercials on in ReVue 1.1a5, and you move the playback marker into a commercial block, when the video is paused, it goes into slow motion.. its really weird.. I think it tends to do it more with commercial blocks at the end of the video segment.

And I will mention it again, the "block bar" really need a zoom function, so you can scale in/out, for example, its almost impossible to accurately position the playback marker if you have a very long recording (i.e. 2 or 3 hours) since the "ticks" are smashed so close together, whereas on a short 30 min recording they are nicely spaced apart.. if the "block bar" had a +/- zoom on it, you could over come this by "zooming" in/out.

[Bigjohns]

Originally posted by Zadkiel
I have just installed Revue 1.1a5 and I seem to be having the same issues as some others in this thread.
The scenes when loading the mpg initially are off, then after setting them correctly to the frame and saving the Video, the cut scenes are off by a 5-15 seconds. Thus I get a 5-15 seconds of commercial and miss a 5-15 seconds of the show.
I am running:
Windows XP w/sp1
Revue 1.1a5
.NET Framework 1.1
Windows Media Player 9
Direct X9.0b
mpg2splt.ax version 6.3.1.881 (I unreg'd the old one/and reg'd the new one)
RTVTools rev 4

Any thoughts?

You got that backwards. UNREG the NEW mpg2splt and RE-REG the old one.

John

[Zadkiel]

OK. Let me re-phrase it. :)

I un-reg'd the one that was installed with DirectX 9.0b and then renamed it, copied the one from another thread from icecow and reg'd that one.

[Jeff D]

I've always had the off by 5-10 seconds problem.

Could I just uninstall directX 9? I thought DirectX is one of those "you can't uninstall" packages. Have there been any issues with removing the directv split and not installing the 8 version? Where another mpeg splitter would be used?

I know this is all stuff being discovered, but I wanted to figure out exactly what's been tried before I start hacking around with these parts. (I wish gspot 2.5 was done, it's got the unregister codec stuff!)

[Bigjohns]

Jeff -

Unreg the DX9/wmp9 mpeg2split and re-register the old version. This will ensure your cuts are within 1sec or less. I think this is because it always wants to cut on a GOP.

John

[Zadkiel]

Does anyone have Revue 1.1 working to edit out commericials on a 5000 series?
If you do, please give me your software specs (OS, DirectX, etc...)

Thanks.

[antibody128]

I've tried this mpg2splt.ax replacement thing and Revue stops playing the videos altogether. I downloaded the mpg2split.ax file from icecow's link. Does anyone have a working mpg2splt.ax I can get my hands on?

[Bigjohns]

Originally posted by Zadkiel
Does anyone have Revue 1.1 working to edit out commericials on a 5000 series?
If you do, please give me your software specs (OS, DirectX, etc...)

Thanks.

WIN2k
DX9
GE4 video card
.net framework
wm9
VLC for streaming video
Java 1.4.1(7) for DVarchive

All latest updates from MS and Nvidea

ReVue 1.1 a5

PowerDVD is my mpeg codec.

[icecow]

Originally posted by antibody128
I've tried this mpg2splt.ax replacement thing and Revue stops playing the videos altogether. I downloaded the mpg2split.ax file from icecow's link. Does anyone have a working mpg2splt.ax I can get my hands on?

I haven't even got that far. I tried moving the old mpg2splt.ax to a safe place then copy the new one in, but the old one was still there. Not sure of XP just copied it back or if I have to put a check box in windows that lets me copy over system files or what.

I got to do some organized tinkering around but haven't goten to it

cow

[Jeff D]

cow, generally the new stuff will get copied back. XP is worse the the other OSes for this...

There's some directx installer package in a directory inside your windows directory. A .cab file that will contain that file. From what I've found is there's a registery entry for that file that tells the OS where to find that file where there's problems. You sometimes have to hack out those registery entries.

NOTE!!!!! Hacking your registry file isn't recommended for the faint of heart, it can majorly F-UP your PC.

That said... cow give it a shot. =) Just kidding.

Anyone else got a better way to get rid of cow's problem? I know that deleting the .cab file isn't always helpful because sometimes this causes the OS to sit there trying to locate the missing .cab, and that's pretty fustrating.

[sweetie]

I can't get reVue 1.1a5 to run on my PC. After installation, I get the following error at start-up:

Index was out of range. Must be non-negative and less then the size of the collection. Parameter name:Index.

When I continue and the reVue application window appears, I cannot get a file to play.

I have Microsoft .NET framework 1.1, and Windows Media Player 9 installed (running Win2k).

Thanks

[sweetie]

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[drosenth]

Ken,

Now that DVArchive 3 is out, can you tell me what I need to do to have v1.1a5 see my DVA server? Whenever I try to do: File-> Open via DVA a window pops up and says: Could not talk to DVA streaming archive server. I am still figuring out all the options with DVA3, so it might be in my configuration. Is there anything I need to do? Other than that, it works great for me!

Thanks,
DaveR

[ksb]

Dave and everyone else,

Remember that reVue can talk to DVA3, but that streaming does NOT yet work. (WMP insists on downloading the entire file before playing it.) So, the only thing that the interaction helps with is opening alreayd archived files.

When you bring up the Preferences dialog box, is there a DVArchive tab? If not, hold down the Control key while selecting Preferences from the Edit button; this will make the DVA tab appear.

In the DVA preferences tab, enter the IP address and port (usually 8042) that DVA is listening on. (Note that you cannot use "localhost" or "127.0.0.1" because the HTTP server used by DVA3 doesn't listen there.)

Once the IP and port are in, Open with DVA should work. (If Open with DVA isn't in your File menu, reVue isn't seeing DVA on your machine.)

Does this help?

[drosenth]

Ken,

That did it - I didn't have DVarchive set to my IP in my preferences. And (unfortunately) you are correct - WMP downloads the entire show, so streaming ReVue is, well, going to need to wait. I was hoping your existing application worked with streaming video, but I guess I didn't understand how you were tied into the WMP framework.

Anyway, I will anxiously wait for the ported version...to me your application is "the only way to watch replay shows", and once you fully support streaming, I will have the solution that I have always waited for.

In case you cannot tell, your application is awesome - well done (and congrats on the promo as well).

Thanks again - great work!
DaveR

[Petersonz]

Hi Ken,

Revue is a GREAT app.

I have some suggestions to make it even better.

1) Make "pause" actually pause all the time. Toward the end of the video's being edited, hitting pause actually causes slow motion rather than stopping. Clicking somewhere in the middle of the video will stop the slowmo to a pause.

2) Although quaint, having the <-- and --> following replay/tivo instant replay and skip times is very frustrating when editing. When I want to edit, these buttons should simply skip forward X seconds and backward X seconds. And that interval should be adjustable. Having <---- being 7 seconds and ---> being 30 seconds is fine for playing, not editing.

3) Please give an option to disable commercial skip during seeking while editing.

Its very frustrating when the original commercial marker starts just 5 seconds before the actual commercial, you as the editor are trying to change the mark with the next block (CTRL+INS) and right when the pointer reaches the original commercial mark, the video skips to the beginning of the next content segment. When I use edit keys <---- and ---->, it should NOT follow block segment markers at all. Thats what I have block skip up and down for.

Please keep up the good work, I will be the first in line when/if you have a commercial product and are selling licenses.

[ksb]

Petersonz, right-click on the quick skip, instant replay, and prev/next block buttons and you'll get a menu that lets you adjust what they do. All of the options are taken from the revue.xml configuration file. So, if you don't see a QuickSkip time that you like, edit the config file and you'll have it.

The problem with pause running in slow motion at the end is a known bug. It will be fixed, I just can't tell you when yet.

Finally, I'm not expecting this to ever be a commercial product. I wrote it because it was fun. As long as it stays that way, I'll keep working on it and giving it away.

[Bixit219]

Petersonz

Check the readme link below,

If you follow it, it will address all your questions:
http://inside.drexel.edu/ksb/revue/ReadMe.html

(specifically section, 5. Navigating a Show )

http://inside.drexel.edu/ksb/revue/images/instant-replay-menu.jpg

http://inside.drexel.edu/ksb/revue/images/quick-skip-menu.jpg

[richcchan]

With all the problems people seem to be having with 1.1a5, which version do people think is the most stable?

[ksb]

Rich, 1.1a5 is the latest version. There really haven't been a lot of problem reports, excluding the ones related to the timing problem of Microsoft's DirectX 9 DLL. The most recent "problem" was actually a request for reVue to do something that it has done for months and which is documented.

I'd stick with 1.1a5. I am trying to clean up the pause/slo-mo bug, but that will probably be it for a while as I shift my focus to the project to port reVue to Java.

[antibody128]

Yesterday I started having a new problem with Revue that I hadn't seen before. It was unable to play all the way through a show without eventually slowing to a crawl until I hit play/pause to get it going again. I checked the same file in WMP9 and it played fine.

Since I was just playing with the mpg2split.ax files the other day I wonder if this is somehow at the route of this. I had installed the DX 8 file that Icecow posted, but then neither Revue nor WMP2 were able to play the RTV files at all, so I reinstalled the original DX9 file. Of course there were a few freeze-ups along the way so who knows if I currupted something in the Registry. I'm really bad at remembering to back up the registry before messing with it so I don't have one to fall back on. I did uninstall 1.5 and reinstall 1.3, but that didn't do anything.

So any ideas what might be up? As I say WMP9 works just fine, but Revue seems to freeze up now.

[sweetie]

Hi Ken -

I sent you a PM - whenever you get a chance to check it, I'd be very grateful.

Thanks

[ksb]

Sweetie, my last private message is from March 9. --Ken

[xstrym]

I get this when I try to open a video... can't get past it at all. See attachment for a visual.

See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
Cannot invoke property get of 'URL' at this time.


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mscorlib
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.573
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/microsoft.net/framework/v1.1.4322/mscorlib.dll
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reVue
Assembly Version: 1.0.1480.38605
Win32 Version: 1.0.1480.38605
CodeBase: file:///C:/Programs/reVue/reVue.exe
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System.Windows.Forms
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
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CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.windows.forms/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.windows.forms.dll
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System
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.573
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.dll
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System.Drawing
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.573
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.drawing/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/system.drawing.dll
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System.Xml
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.573
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.xml/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.xml.dll
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AxInterop.WMPLib
Assembly Version: 9.0.0.2980
Win32 Version: 9.0.0.2980
CodeBase: file:///C:/Programs/reVue/AxInterop.WMPLib.DLL
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wmppia
Assembly Version: 9.0.0.2980
Win32 Version: 9.0.0.2980
CodeBase: file:///C:/Programs/reVue/wmppia.DLL
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************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just in time (JIT) debugging, the config file for this
application or machine (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

<configuration>
<system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the machine
rather than being handled by this dialog. Has anyone else seen this? Suggestions?

I have not uninstalled and reinstalled yet since I am unfamiliar with .Net... I am hoping it might be an easy fix. If I have left anything out, just lemme know.

TIA

[4-me]

I am getting the error "Index was out of range" when launching revue
and if I choose to ignore it I just go on to additional errors opening a
file. I've seen three different people on this thread post the same
error - has anyone found a fix? I'd love to try revue out but it is
getting frustrating.

Thanks for any help!

[sonomatom]

I love Revue, thanks Ken!

What was that trick to get edit blocks within 30 seconds of an existing edit block?

I thought I read that somewhere, but after searching the forum and my notes I can't find it.

tommy

[Bixit219]

Originally posted by sonomatom
What was that trick to get edit blocks within 30 seconds of an existing edit block?

I thought I read that somewhere, but after searching the forum and my notes I can't find it.

tommy

See this post of mine within this other revue thread

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=3549539#post3549539

[sonomatom]

Thanks Bixit,

That was exactly what I was looking for.

I guess I got lazy...didn't even think about text editing the block boundaries, just like the RTVTools and text editor days, only easier!

One more happy tool user skips off to enjoy the labors of KSB :D

[icecow]

Originally posted by ksb
You won't see the WME profiles unless you have Windows Meda Encoder installed. Go to Microsoft's site, get it, install it, and restart reVue 1.1. --Ken

Should we use windows media encoder 9.0? 8.0 was once recommended but I'm not sure if 8.0 is needed for a special reason.

cow

[swimmouse]

I just installed reVue 1.1a5. I can hear the audio, but can NOT see the video. (seems WMP9 does not have the right codec). Do I need to download 3rd-party codec to see RTV shows in WMP9?

Thanks.

[krkaufman]

Originally posted by swimmouse
I just installed reVue 1.1a5. I can hear the audio, but can NOT see the video. (seems WMP9 does not have the right codec). Do I need to download 3rd-party codec to see RTV shows in WMP9?

Just to be sure, do you have a hardware decoder card in the PC(SigmaDesign Hollywood+, NetStream 2000, Creative dxr3, or other)? If so, is its video output redirected to "TV Out" instead of "PC Out."

I have a NS2K, and occasionally get startled when my video's missing.

[sas0]

I have been having this problem since I first installed ReVue1.1... and after hours of trying to figure out what's going on, I just can't resolve it.

I installed all the required programs (.NET, WME 9, RTV tools) and individually they all seem to work ok. However, when I try to convert a RTV file to a .wmv I keep getting WME errors in ReVue (bottom right corner).

I just open the RTV file in ReVue (it plays fine, blocks are ok, no problem)
Choose 'Create new video' and choose the Windows Media output settings.
Depending on which setting I chose, I get one of two errors. The errors are either WME Error: Cannot find specified file or WME Error: Cannot find codec. I think I solved the error related to the codec by opening the profiles in the ReVue installation directory and making sure they all call WME 9 codecs. Some of them called WME 7 codecs. However, no matter which WME setting in Revue I chose, I still get the 'WME error: cannot find file'.

I have tried running WME 9 standalone and converting the files generated by both DVArchive and the temp files created by ReVue. I am able to convert those without any problem.

I think the problem might lie in the system call ReVue uses to run the WME conversion. Is this in a .log file anywhere? Is there anyway I can 'see' what Revue is sending as a WME 'script'?

Any other suggestions?

Thanks

[Hover]

I tried using Revue to convert files to pocketpc size a week or so ago and I was also getting the "cannot find file" error. I also had all required programs installed especially wme 9.

EDIT: and yes, I have powerdvd installed and mpeg2s work great.

[Bigjohns]

Originally posted by sas0
I have been having this problem since I first installed ReVue1.1... and after hours of trying to figure out what's going on, I just can't resolve it.

I installed all the required programs (.NET, WME 9, RTV tools) and individually they all seem to work ok. However, when I try to convert a RTV file to a .wmv I keep getting WME errors in ReVue (bottom right corner).

I just open the RTV file in ReVue (it plays fine, blocks are ok, no problem)
Choose 'Create new video' and choose the Windows Media output settings.
Depending on which setting I chose, I get one of two errors. The errors are either WME Error: Cannot find specified file or WME Error: Cannot find codec. I think I solved the error related to the codec by opening the profiles in the ReVue installation directory and making sure they all call WME 9 codecs. Some of them called WME 7 codecs. However, no matter which WME setting in Revue I chose, I still get the 'WME error: cannot find file'.

I have tried running WME 9 standalone and converting the files generated by both DVArchive and the temp files created by ReVue. I am able to convert those without any problem.

I think the problem might lie in the system call ReVue uses to run the WME conversion. Is this in a .log file anywhere? Is there anyway I can 'see' what Revue is sending as a WME 'script'?

Any other suggestions?

Thanks

Probably a stupid question, but are you certain that you have an MPEG2 codec? The one from PowerDVD seems to work wonderfully for me.

John

[sas0]

Originally posted by Hover
I tried using Revue to convert files to pocketpc size a week or so ago and I was also getting the "cannot find file" error. I also had all required programs installed especially wme 9.

I guess I'm not alone on this WME Error. I think if I could just see what ReVue is sending to WME it would probably be easier to track down.

[richcchan]

Quick question...

Last week, when I was cleaning up some Replay shows, it would spit out a RTV file, along with a CLN file. However, I was editing some shows today, and it only spit out CLN files.

On video options, I select use rtv-1, Cleaned MPEG for DVD, and commercials edited out. Any idea why it made some RTV files sometimes, and not others?

Update: Now 3 shows into my editing session, it's gone back to spitting out a RTV file along with the CLN file. Any idea what's going on? The CLN files seem fine, though.

[dstidolph]

I've tried to install 1.1a5 and 1.1a3 and get an install error (2235).

I think this might be an sql error, but I don't really know.

Any ideas or what to look for that might give me more information to go on?

Windows XP pro
512MB
SP1
All patches current

I also had an error installing DVArchive 3.0, but just unzipping it into a directory got it working for me.

Thanks,

David Stidolph
Austin, TX

[Norbert]

Originally posted by Hover
I tried using Revue to convert files to pocketpc size a week or so ago and I was also getting the "cannot find file" error. I also had all required programs installed especially wme 9.

EDIT: and yes, I have powerdvd installed and mpeg2s work great.

Hover,

I have been converting ReplayTV mpegs to my pocket pc for a while now using reVue to edit the content and then using Windows Movie Maker to do the conversion to the Pocket PC. I am able to edit about 17-20 minutes out of a 1 hour program at standard quality (800 MB to 640 MB) then with Movie Maker, I am able to get it down to 64 MB. I have a Dell Axim5 with a 128MB CF card and it works well. I even put the infamous "wardrobe malfunction" on my Axim for my friends at work to drool over.

Using that method has worked well for me.

[jpjpjp]

I just started using reVue. Seems to work great except that the scenes aren't quite right. For example a scene marked as a commerical will actually have some show in it and vice versa. When I watch the same program using Replay the commercial advance is working perfectly.

Should the .evt file mark commercials just as well as Replay does the commercial advance? (Ie: is this what Replay uses internally?)

Thanks,
--jp

[spullara]

Is there a specification for the RDX format that ReVue parses so that I can make this setup work on the Mac with Quicktime?

Thanks for any help,
Sam

[ksb]

What RDX format? I don't recall anything named RDX, but I'm a bit scatter-brained right now.

[icecow]

Look what the cat brought in

[Superguy]

Where do I post my ReVue questions/comments these days?

[Bigjohns]

Originally posted by Superguy
Where do I post my ReVue questions/comments these days?

planetreplay.com

has a revue forum.

John

[Superguy]

I'm actually trying to figure out if a final solution was ever created for the out of time sync problem. PlanetReplay forum doesn't seam as advanced as this one.

My desktop has them / laptop doesn't.

I tried downgrading mpg2splt.ax. Now I get WME Errors even though Dxdiag claims I'm still using the newer dll.

WME Error: One or more codecs required to open this content could not be found.

All the codecs are there and all videos / dvd's / you name it play fine.

I noticed two things between the desktop and the laptop.

Desktop is Pro with SP1 and DX 9.0b
with mpg2splt.ax version 6.05.0001.0900

Laptop is Tablet with SP2 and DX 9.0c
with mpg2splt.ax version 6.05.2600.2180

I upgraded the Desktop to DX 9.0c but the file are still the same version.

Also, On the laptop, I never changed any times in the 'edit show information' dialog box. Only names. I did all the splitting with the toolbar and never adjusted anything on my laptop. The video cuts perfectly.

Any ideas what's up with the desktop?

Did reverting back to the old mpg2splt file work?

[Bigjohns]

I reverted to the older file and that worked. Then my PC went to hell and I had to do a complete reformat.... I'm just now catching up to where I'll be running DVA to grab files and Revue to edit them again...

John

[antibody128]

I was never able to fix the Revue bug on my computer and changing those files and DX9 caused all sorts of massive problems, but didn't fix Revue. I put everything back the way it was and I just use evtedit for windows for editing my replaytv files. It's only slightly less user friendly, but unlike Revue the edit preveiws are truely WYSIWYG. That's what I want.

Dan

[uacybercat]

Ken, just wanted to bring to your attention that in section 11, "Working With DVArchive" of your readme, you link to dvarchive.sourceforge.org is incorrect.
You may read and download DVARchive at www.dvarchive.org (http://www.dvarchive.org)

[krkaufman]

Anybody else seeing this reVue WME conversion error:
http://home.comcast.net/~krkaufman/revue_wme_error.jpg"WME error: ClassFactory cannot supply requested class"

.

[Wrecks]

I'm guessing that the real problem is with the Windows Media Player. Perhaps updating it might fix the problem.

[krkaufman]

Originally posted by Wrecks
I'm guessing that the real problem is with the Windows Media Player. Perhaps updating it might fix the problem.

Did that; to no avail. (Thanks for the suggestion, though.)

[Scallica]

Originally posted by Bargonaut
I want to love reVue, but I can't get accurate times from within the app.
By 15 minutes into a RTV video, the cut times are already off by 30 seconds. For example, the scene in question appears at 00:14:15 in VirtualDub-MPEG2 and even in WMP9, but in reVue the same scene clocks at 00:14:45. As a consequence, the edits cut at the wrong places. The discrepancy is too large to overlook.

I am having the same trouble with reVue. I mark out my commercials, then select "Create New Video", then select "Put each block in its own file", then cloose "Cleaned MPEG" as the output format. After watching the new videos, I noticed that all of the my marks are off by 26 seconds.

I have tried version 1.1a3 and 1.1a5....same thing happens on both.

So does anyone have any suggestions about this issue? :confused:

~Scallica~

[ksb]

reVue is using Windows Media Player to handle display and timing. The Replay MPGs and WMP don't quite get along. There has been some talk about using older DLLs with WMP, but I can't say that that's a good idea, works, or won't be a problem as WMP is upgraded.

reVue was written to make viewing a show easy on your PC. The editing features were an add-on and not one that I was particularly interested in once it became clear that working around WMP would be a major effort. There haven't been any updates to reVue in a while because it does what I want (lets me easily skip commercials while watching recorded shows on the airplane).

I did release the source code a few months ago and anyone who wants to it welcome to try to fix the time coding problem.

[Scallica]

Thanks for the reply, ksb.

I noticed that when I clicked "Create new video", the DOS window popped up for RTVtools. I looked at the times for each video segment and they appeared to be exactly what I had marked in reVue.

~Scallica~

[ksb]

That makes sense, but it doesn't make it right. The rtvtools "know" how to read the "real" times in a Replay MPG; WMP does not. reVue is using WMP to get MPG times and then feeding those (incorrect WMP-provided) times to rtvtools. rtvtools then using the incorrect times to edit the video, but of course it finds the wrong frames since WMP/revue directed it to the wrong place.

I don't know if the root of the problem is that WMP is broken or that the Replay MPGs are broken, but I'd bet heavily on the MPGs being wrong. There have been numerous posts about timecoding conflicts between the MPGs, NDX, and EVT files. (Not the Microsoft doesn't have its own problems!)

[mjhoranatc]

I've been having great sucess with reVue until I tried toc work with a large file yesterday. I have a replay 4500. I downloaded the movie Midway which on tv is about 3 hours. Problem is when I open the file it quickly (about 3 seconds) shows the whole show in the tool bar with the comercials and content marked. Then it quickly shortens to about 45 min. on the edit bar, and it seems reVue makes 14 edits to the file. I believe it removes the comercial marks for the last 2 hours or so. Has anyone else run into this situation?

Mike

[the-feast]

I am getting a "page not found" error when I click on the hyperlink. Anyone else?

[Loren Kruse.]

no, the link seems to be working...

[STL]

Originally posted by Scallica
I am having the same trouble with reVue. I mark out my commercials, then select "Create New Video", then select "Put each block in its own file", then cloose "Cleaned MPEG" as the output format. After watching the new videos, I noticed that all of the my marks are off by 26 seconds. I am having the same problem, but I must clarify it's not 26 seconds for every one. My first mark was off exactly 26 second, but my second one was 32 seconds, and the third one was even more. Once I saw it wasn't a constant value I gave up. If anyone knows any fixes or work-arounds I would love to hear them.

[zaphraud]

OK, so I popped the hard disc out of my 3030c, put it in, and used extract_rtv to get the files transfered over to a folder.

Opening the MPG file with Media Player delivers the typical "No Codec" error message. Gotta love Microsoft... this was expected.

Opening any of the files in ReVue, however, gets me a strange error. Apparently this thing is looking for EVT files (whatever those are) and worse, I see some of you are actually discussing these EVT files.

The thing is, There are no EVT files on the hard disc, in either of the two partitions the 3030c used There were, I noticed, lots of pretty BMP files on what appeared to be the "program" partition, but not a trace of an EVT file.

What is an EVT file, and where or how do I get it, or make this program stop asking for it?




See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.IO.FileNotFoundException: Could not find file "C:\Documents and Settings\zaphraud\Desktop\extract-b\1107651297.evt".
File name: "C:\Documents and Settings\zaphraud\Desktop\extract-b\1107651297.evt"
at System.IO.__Error.WinIOError(Int32 errorCode, String str)
at System.IO.FileStream..ctor(String path, FileMode mode, FileAccess access, FileShare share, Int32 bufferSize, Boolean useAsync, String msgPath, Boolean bFromProxy)
at System.IO.FileStream..ctor(String path, FileMode mode, FileAccess access, FileShare share)
at reVue.ShowInfo.loadEvtInfo(String vcSceneFile)
at reVue.ShowInfo.loadSceneInfo(String vcVideoFile, String vcSceneFile, Boolean bUseNewEvtLoader)
at reVue.frmMain.loadFile(String vcFileName)
at reVue.frmMain.mbFileOpenVideo_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.MenuItem.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.MenuItemData.Execute()
at System.Windows.Forms.Command.Invoke()
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmCommand(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


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reVue
Assembly Version: 1.0.1480.38605
Win32 Version: 1.0.1480.38605
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/KSB/reVue/reVue.exe
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System
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.573
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.dll
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System.Drawing
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.573
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.drawing/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/system.drawing.dll
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System.Xml
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
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CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.xml/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.xml.dll
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AxInterop.WMPLib
Assembly Version: 9.0.0.2980
Win32 Version: 9.0.0.2980
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/KSB/reVue/AxInterop.WMPLib.DLL
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wmppia
Assembly Version: 9.0.0.2980
Win32 Version: 9.0.0.2980
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/KSB/reVue/wmppia.DLL
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Accessibility
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.573
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/accessibility/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/accessibility.dll
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************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just in time (JIT) debugging, the config file for this
application or machine (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

<configuration>
<system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the machine
rather than being handled by this dialog.

[ksb]

zaphraud, the 3000 series doesn't have commercial/scene detection so there won't be an ndx or evt file. In such cases, reVue should just play the mpg fie straight through.

The "no codec" messages from WMP tells me your real problem: your PC doesn't know how to play mpg files encoded the way that ReplayTVs store them. Fortunately, the fix for that is easy; you need to get some DVD playback software since the Replay mpgs are in a similar format.

But remember, even with DVD playback software, reVue isn't doesn't automatically find commercials, it uses the Replay-provide ndx or evt file. Since you have a 3000 series DVR, there is no such file. Of course, you can always manually mark the commercials and store that information for future viewing. --Ken

[zaphraud]

I thought that could be it since this box only has a CDRW in it. I installed PowerDVD XP and had what could be best described as limited luck.

Specifically, PowerDVD will open and play the MPG file, but apparently the people who made PowerDVD software didn't make the codec as a codec either. WiMP still won't open the files, and PowerDVD is basically unusable since it can't fast forward or move to a random point in media at all.

Any idea where I can get the codecs? I have *.microsoft.com and *.wmplugins.com in the "trusted" zones, but I still am told that WiMP cannot download, so I guess its not on the Microsoft site - either that or they've registered yet another domain. Unfortunately WiMP 10 doesn't tell me where its downloading from like the old ones did, so I have no idea if IE settings are the problem, or if its just not there.

I'll try installing ULead's editor next, it might have such a codec. The DVD playing software doesn't have it as an actual codec, even tho it has the functionality.

[zaphraud]

Installing the ULead editor that came either with my 1394 card or with my Sony Digital 8 (? not sure, got a display model, lol) got the codec installed.

Well sort of - actually now WiMP tries to download a codec, fails, then plays the video and audio flawlessly anyways :boggle:

The ReVue software still chokes on the missing EVL file, even if I try to play the MPG by itself. Selecting "Continue" in the error message takes me apparently back to the point where it was waiting for me to open a file in the first place, hitting "Quit" drops out of the ap entirely.

Creating an empty EVL file causes the application to display a black screen when I open the mpg corresponding to it by name, so it really, really has to have that EVL file or it refuses to work, and it apparently needs data too.

There are, actually, NDX files created for the MPGs on the 3030c, just no EVL files. Not sure whats in them however, just know they won't open in ReVue without an EVL file.

[zaphraud]

Err, actually, the MPEGs created by the device in standard (low) or medium quality settings freeze frequently. Only the recording I made in the highest quality setting seems to play without frequent freezing and loss of audio/video sync..

damn codecs.

[smeltnight]

I am unable to get the video the video to play in revue or WMP 10. I have scanned these boards for help and it always seems to get a little fuzzy when it comes to getting the right codec. Where do i find it - exactly?

Revue and RTV tools seem to convert the fine but i would like to see it in Revue for editing. Also, it plays in Cyberlink Power director.

[ksb]

The codecs are part of pretty much any Windows software DVD player. If you can't play DVDs on your PC, reVue won't be able to play the RepayTV mpeg files.

It's worth nothing that while reVue does have some editing features, it is primarily a "smart" player that reads the ndx/evt files to auto-skip commercials. since reVue uses the Windows Media Player control and that control and the Replay mpegs don't quite get along, frame-level control of editing is not possible.

[zaphraud]

Originally posted by ksb
The codecs are part of pretty much any Windows software DVD player. If you can't play DVDs on your PC, reVue won't be able to play the RepayTV mpeg files.

It's worth nothing that while reVue does have some editing features, it is primarily a "smart" player that reads the ndx/evt files to auto-skip commercials. since reVue uses the Windows Media Player control and that control and the Replay mpegs don't quite get along, frame-level control of editing is not possible.

After installing PowerDVD, I was able to play only the recordings made using the "high" quality setting of a ReplayTV 3000 series. (Yes, I physically removed its hard disk in order to get the files)

It would be worth hearing from anyone who has got the two lower-quality setting files to play properly, EXACTLY what sort of DVD player software they installed.

[smeltnight]

I didn’t get a chance to play with this since my last post but suddenly, two nights ago, Revue began playing the video just fine. I think that the only software that I installed since my last post was Pinnacle. So I was thrilled until I opened Revue again last night and instead of getting the video I got the WMP visualizations. Funky, but not useful. I’ve seen on these boards that PowerDVD has the replay codec so I installed that program. Dvarchive files play in Powerdvd, but I still only get the WMP visualizations in Revue and in WMP. How does WMP choose the codec it needs? Can I tell it which one to use? And, if so, where are the codecs located so that I can specify the location for WMP? Or is this just some setting that I’m just not finding in the WMP menus? Thnx.

[Dave Hanson]

bump for smeltnight's powerdvd questions

Thanks ksb for the great proggie!

[richcchan]

Years later, technology is just catching up to what you guys were doing back in '03. I just got a new Windows-based phone, and I remembered that ReVue could encode in pocket PC format. So I searched for this old thread and by golly, it works. I went ahead and download a short clip, encoded it, and it plays perfectly on my new T-Mobile SDA. It's been almost 3 years since I've had my 5000 series Replay and it still amazes me what you guys were able to do with it as far as aftermarket programs. I still use DVArchive to view shows from my replay on my computer. I've since added another Replay 5000 series... both Replays have upgraded hard drives, they haven't missed a beat. I can view any program through the house network either through the Replays or through my comptuers through DVArchive. Heck, with my new phone, I can even view programs through my phone.... now if only I could find a way to batch everything... yes, somebody's probably posted an answer already...

Anyway, funny how it's '06 and we're still bleeding edge technology. No other DVR has matched what the Replay was able to do (of course, most of that credit goes to you guys).