Redneck Regal - Start to Finish in 74 Days.

[CPanther95]

[size=4][color=limegreen]Completed pics in Post #243 & 244[/size][/color]
[size=3][color=limegreen]"Before" photos in Post #4 & 5[/size][/color]


No, the name won't stick - but until the family comes up with a name, I'll keep calling it that :)

Construction begins on Monday. Had DE do the design, and because I don't have the patience to do the work myself with the NFL starting up soon - this will be a 100% DE designed and built HT. Hoping to wrap things up within 60 days.

Room is a bonus room above the garage. 15' x 19' with an additional 2' of depth (raised up 7") from the entry door over to one side of the room. Ceiling is sloped (the curse of a bonus room) - side walls are about 6' tall before sloping starts and flat portion of the ceiling is 8' 7" (8' at entry). Both sides have storage areas about 4' wide the whole length of the room, with the ceiling continuing it's slope from 6' down to 3 1/2 tall.

Planned construction:
AcoustiMat (delivered a couple days ago - 730lb. pallet)
Extend the rear platform for the rear riser
Double layer of drywall (full room) on sound deadening channel.
Starfield Ceiling
Dark Charcoal GoM walls and sloped ceiling with Wine panels on the wall
Milano Blue Ceiling

Planned Equipment:
Sharp 12k
Stewart Studiotek130, THX Microperf, 2.35:1 (4'-1/2" x 9'-6")
Isco horizontal stretch Lens
Lumagen HDP
Atlantic Tech pre-amp and amp
Triad InRoom Silver LCR (x3) and InWall Surrounds (x4)
SVS 16-46PC-PLUS subwoofer
Lutron Grafik Eye
Berkline Black 090's (x7) Four in back R*R**L*L and three in front R*D*D*L
XBox
Panasonic DVD
GoM Pattern: CARINA 2200
- Color: Obsidian(1192) - on walls
- Color: Garnet(1488) - accents
Mohawk Commercial Carpet - Pattern: Macaire - Color: Pinot

Will post pics as it progresses.

[mikecazzx]

Originally posted by CPanther95
[B
Will post pics as it progresses. [/B]

60 days?

Are you Superman?

[CPanther95]

Originally posted by mikecazzx
60 days?

Are you Superman?

No, but I hired Superman :D

[CPanther95]

"Before" photos.

[CPanther95]

Looking out

[Brett Wilson]

Well good luck, and please please keep a record of construction in the form of photos :)

60days? I am 7mths right now and am about to tape and mud (well not right now as we have a wedding to go to, 8 weddings this summer is killing my progress :) ) so you have a great incentive - NFL Sunday ticket in HD ;)

- Brett

[Stefan Young]

who did you kick out to build it into a theater?

[CPanther95]

Originally posted by Stefan Young
who did you kick out to build it into a theater?

My daughters, who thought it would be cool to share a big room - until they started to share a big room. :) My wife brought up the home theater idea in order to finally get new carpet into the room.

[Stefan Young]

enjoy your DE design and document, document and document the progress of the uberspeed of construction.

[malson]

I'm definitely going to be watching this thread with interest. Your room is nearly identical to the bonus room here at my house. My wife and I just moved in so it's going to be a while before we start putting the theatre together. Good luck and I certainly can't wait to see your pictures!

[V.X.Donique]

Good luck CP;)

and show awesome progress pics!

[PamW]

CPanther95,

Good luck! We are all looking forward to your progress - maybe there will be a NC Meet held at the Redneck Regal sometime after completion :D

[Suprfly2k]

Terrific! Smooth move, my man.

BTW, I am in the sheet rock phase of the construction of a room with very similar bonus-room-sloped-ceilings-knee-wall characteristics.

I have photos in my gallery.

James

[poolboyclay]

Originally posted by PamW
CPanther95,

Good luck! We are all looking forward to your progress - maybe there will be a NC Meet held at the Redneck Regal sometime after completion :D

I'm for that!!!:)

Clay

[HTbuphb]

Originally posted by CPanther95
No, the name won't stick - but until the family comes up with a name, I'll keep calling it that :)

Construction begins on Monday. Had DE do the design, and because I don't have the patience to do the work myself with the NFL starting up soon - this will be a 100% DE designed and built HT. Hoping to wrap things up within 60 days.

Room is a bonus room above the garage. 15' x 19' with an additional 2' of depth (raised up 7") from the entry door over to one side of the room. Ceiling is sloped (the curse of a bonus room) - side walls are about 6' tall before sloping starts and flat portion of the ceiling is 8' 7" (8' at entry). Both sides have storage areas about 4' wide the whole length of the room, with the ceiling continuing it's slope from 6' down to 3 1/2 tall.



Your bonus room sounds very much like ours. It is 22' long, 12' wide, and slopes from 7'6" to 8'11", and has 4' of storage to either side, plus it is also over the garage. We are also asking DE to design the HT, although I am going to do the work to save $$$$. I'll be interested to see how similar our two HTs will be.

BTW, we actually like the name "Redneck Regal." We like to call ourselves the white trash of our Cul-de-sac, largely because we have the smallest house and I drive a pick-up truck while other folks drive SUVs. So we are thinking of a name like the "White-trash Omni."

[CPanther95]

I'll try and take a picture each day that something is done.

I'm considering today - Day 1 (of 60 hopefully)

[CPanther95]

Ripped up carpet and padding. Removed tack strips and staples. Removed baseboards and door trim. Construction crew should be here tomorrow.

[CPanther95]

Day 2:

Crew got here late afternoon and got everything setup and started laying the floor.

[CPanther95]

Day 3:

Finished the AcoustiMat flooring.
Mounted all the RSIC clips.
Removed doors to side attics
Removed drywall from back wall for insulation.
Cut out new openings for side attic access and equip. racks

[formerly HTbuph]

Panther,

Did you take your design plans in to the county permit office or did you just commence with the work?

Tim

[CPanther95]

Permits are for suckers. It's always better to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission. :D

I never worry about a permit for any work inside the house. If I'm not adding on, and there's only cosmetic changes, I don't think it would apply.

[formerly HTbuph]

The construction supervisor for our house said that a permit wouldn't likely be necessary if there were no major changes to electric or structure. True if the only changes are essentially cosmetic, the county wouldn't care. The question is, though, what qualifies as cosmetic?

I finished an unfinished a space for a HT in our townhouse when we lived in Va, and took pictures during construction on the advice of a general contractor neighbor. We went to sell the house later and knew that it would come out that such work had been done. If anything had happened to the house that resulted from work I had done without a permit, the next homeowners would have to pay for it, insurance wouldn't. So I went through the "beg for forgiveness" process with the county and had to pay in time and effort. I had to tear out portions of the soffit and install some firestop. I had installed it in one direction, but missed another. Needless to say, that was a PITA. I don't know if the money savings was worth that.

[CPanther95]

The difference is this is already a finished space - just being "redecorated".

[formerly HTbuph]

I hear ya'. That would likely suffice for the county. But after our experience in Va, it might not work so well with the wife. However, begging forgiveness from the wife would likely be less painful. :D

[CPanther95]

Day 4

Removed window and used a forklift to move materials in and out.

[CPanther95]

Day 4

Layed plywood floor
Framed access to the side attics and equipment rack.
Installed most of the channel
Insulated back left wall

[CPanther95]

Shot of the back of the room. Equipment rack will be on right wall at the back.

[formerly HTbuph]

They are moving along!

I noticed that no risc clips were placed on the sloped portion of the ceiling. Is there no plan to use the risc clips there? Also, were the wall studs not part of the joists for the room? In our room, the wall studs to which the drywall was attached, are part of a single joist that supports the floor, ceiling, roof, inner, and outer wall.

[CPanther95]

Originally posted by formerly HTbuph
They are moving along!

I noticed that no risc clips were placed on the sloped portion of the ceiling. Is there no plan to use the risc clips there? .................................................. Also, were the wall studs not part of the joists for the room? In our room, the wall studs to which the drywall was attached, are part of a single joist that supports the floor, ceiling, roof, inner, and outer wall.

The sloped ceiling will have double-drywall, but apparently the RSIC was not necessary because that leads directly to the roof.

Not sure what you mean by the second part of your question.

[riga]

CP this is an awesome thread! Will be following it through with you...the progress so far is amazing.

Thanks for sharing and thanks for all you do for this forum.

[CPanther95]

Originally posted by riga
[B...the progress so far is amazing. [/B]

This crew is amazing - kinda like watching Monster House, not quite as fast, but none of the bitching and fighting either. That's a trade-off I'll gladly make. :) Big thanks to The Home Shoppe (http://www.homeshoppeusa.com) for assembling a crew that works well together, seems to love their work, and is absolutely 100% professional.

[formerly HTbuph]

Originally posted by CPanther95

Not sure what you mean by the second part of your question.

Well, I could see that the crew cut the wall stud to widen the entrance to the attic space. I woudn't see any problem with that if it was not a load bearing stud, that is, it is simply a room partition, there only to give something for attaching drywall. In my case, it is a load bearing stud because it is part of a truss. I don't know if I could get away with cutting one. That is what made me ask the question.

[CPanther95]

It would be rare for a wall such as mine to be load bearing. The roof trusses are typically supported by the exterior walls where the slope meets them. Where they decide to put the sidewalls on that slope generally makes no difference.

However, even a load bearing wall would not prevent putting a 4' opening with a header across - the other option would be to just use the openings that are already there and just incorporate them into the design.

[PamW]

Keep up the good work!

[CPanther95]

DAY 5

* Rough electrical run
* 1/2" drywall on Ceiling, Right Slope, Right Side
* 2nd layer of 5/8" drywall on Ceiling and Right Slope

[CPanther95]

DAY 5

shot of the back.

[HTbuphb]

I'm curious again about the drywall on the sloped portion. Since they didn't put risc clips on the sloped portion, did they screw into the ceiling joists?

[Dennis Erskine]

did they screw into the ceiling joists
Yes we did. We understand the mechanics, how the existing structure is constructed and the models. We also are aware of what goes over the majority of that portion of the ceiling. Thus, watch and see what comes next.

[CPanther95]

Good news (for me, anyway) - tentative shipping date from Berkline is 8/26. Ordered on 8/4. I thought that would be the longest lead-time item. (planned 8 weeks).

[MyGrain]

Originally posted by CPanther95
DAY 5

shot of the back.


Ah, you set you camera clock!

Good progress.

[CPanther95]

Originally posted by MyGrain
Ah, you set you camera clock!

Good progress.

Re-sets every time the batteries die :mad: I normally crop it out, but it bugs the hell out of me so I set it.

[vxman]

Dennis, quick question. Since I have a newly studded, bare room, how do you approach the build? Room acoustics 1st, then equipment to fit this room, or plan equipment 1st, then make room fit equipment?

Also, what's going to happen to the half-round window? Leave it or cover it? Just wondering.
Dave...

[mikecazzx]

Keep up the good work.

I always document my projects and it helps other see how much work is needed.

[Neuner]

Originally posted by CPanther95
Day 4


Installed most of the channel


Where did you get your channel from? Lowes & HD don't have it in any of the stores near me.



About the permit: For your project I wouldn't worry about it. When it comes to sell, I doubt they will know that any major work will have been done since it was a finished room anyways. I only got a permit b/c I'm doing as you did in an earlier house, I'm finishing off an unfinished basement. I know we will sell in about 8 years & I need the peace of mind - also, my neighbors are arses, so I'm sure that when they saw the construction mat'l on top of my Jeep they called the City ( I didn't get a permit for my fence & even before I began construction the inspector was at my house :mad: )

[CPanther95]

Originally posted by Neuner
Where did you get your channel from? Lowes & HD don't have it in any of the stores near me.

Can't help there - I didn't source or purchase any of the materials.

[CPanther95]

Day 6

Not much (visible) to show.
* More rough electrical
* 2nd Layer of drywall on the right wall.

Crew went back home until Monday when the carpentry should start in earnest. More drywalling will be done tomorrow (probably finishing off the side attics.)

[CalypsoCowboy]

Looking good, when you said crew went home. They aren't a local crew? I looked at their website and they have some impressive theaters.

[CPanther95]

Crew is out of Atlanta.

[Dennis Erskine]

Our crews travel from our home base to job sites.

[curtisG]

Originally posted by CPanther95
This crew is amazing - kinda like watching Monster House, not quite as fast, but none of the bitching and fighting either. That's a trade-off I'll gladly make. :) Big thanks to The Home Shoppe (http://www.homeshoppeusa.com) for assembling a crew that works well together, seems to love their work, and is absolutely 100% professional.

How big of a crew do you have working on your HT? The progress is simply spectacular!

--curtis

[CPanther95]

Crew is 4 guys, and they've obviously built a number of theaters before because they're able to look ahead and identify any potential problems or hiccups and have them adressed before it causes any stoppage in the work.

[CPanther95]

Day 7

Separate drywall crew came today and completed the side attics. Will return tomorrow to begin tape and mud.

[CPanther95]

DAY 8

Tape & mud both side attics, ceiling, right slope, right wall, and back right wall.

[CPanther95]

DAY 9

More Tape & Mud
2nd layer of drywall on left slope
Left wall - both layers of drywall
Back left wall - insulate and 1st layer of drywall
Much more wiring - speakers, lights, etc.
Some lights installed on ceiling
Rough framing of equipment Rack and Subwoofer access
Window re-installed
Remaining RSIC installed

[CPanther95]

Here's a shot of the equipment rack framing

[CPanther95]

Shot of the ceiling with cans installed. The side attic access on the left wall is visible - immediately to the right of that opening will be the subwoofer access on the left side of the proscenium. It was framed, but drywalled over temporarily.

[CPanther95]

Here's the subwoofer access that was drywalled over. Immediately to the right of the shot is the left side attic access opening.

[vurbano]

Great Job so far CP. Cant believe the progress they are making.

[CPanther95]

Day 10

Plywood installed over entire window
Both Layers of Drywall on Screen Wall
2nd layer on back left side
Lights installed in side attics
Drywall complete - final tape & mud Thurs and Fri.
More Wiring - Rough Power to riser run

[CPanther95]

Shot of the back - riser and proscenium construction should begin tomorrow.

[CPanther95]

It's hard to get a good shot of the look of the window from the outside. I was planning all along on hanging blinds or curtains before it was covered - then thought about painting a piece of drywall white. Crew talked me into black painted - and I'm thrilled with how it looks. Looks just like an uncovered window looking into the house.

[formerly HTbuph]

So, it is black painted drywall on the window side of the plywood that covers the inside of the window? It does look like an unlit room from the outside.

[CPanther95]

Actually I believe it's a couple coats of black paint directly on the plywood that covers the window.

[wasch_24]

Everything seems to be moving along nicely...what, only like 54 days left:)

[CPanther95]

This is basically Phase 1 - then carpet - Phase 2 is fabric installation - Phase 3 is hook up and calibrate equipment (with the Berklines added when they come in)

At the speed these guys are going, I think the overall time to complete the project will be based more on the gap between phases than on actual labor time. Love to catch the Panthers vs. Packers on MNF 9/13 (their only MNF game this year :mad: ) in a completed HT - but that might be stretching it a bit.

[AnthonyP]

looks good and going up fast. I definitely appreciate the daily pics

[formerly HTbuph]

Originally posted by AnthonyP
looks good and going up fast. I definitely appreciate the daily pics

I'll second that!

[patrickwebb]

Aren't you supposed to be working on this for 6 months or more like the rest of us mortals???

Nice pics so far!

[CPanther95]

I spent my 6 months building a gameroom where my Dining Room/Living Rooms used to be. Neither my wife or I were looking forward to another long lasting construction project.

[patrickwebb]

Yeah, i hear ya. My wife asked me the other day if I would do it again when we ever move again. I honestly can't answer that right now! Just for ballpark figuring, how much do fabric installers charge? And does that include the furring strip application? I am just curious how much I really saved by doing it myself.

[CPanther95]

Not really sure - it's all figured into the cost. But like anything else free labor is always the cheapest. :)

[CPanther95]

Day 11

Framed and Insulated Riser
Framed stage
Still more wiring.

[CPanther95]

the Back

[CPanther95]

the Stage

[HTbuphb]

What is the material that they used for the curved portion of the stage front? It almost looks like drywall.

It really is amazing the progress they are making!

[Suprfly2k]

It looks like the same stuff that my builder is using for baseboards in my new house. It's some sort of composite that looks like wood and is pretty flexible.

James

[CPanther95]

The raw material (I believe from Home Depot) is marked
12" PLAIN LAP
12" x 16'
PRIMED

Definitely some type of wood composite or fiberboard. I've seen the same material in a much thinner version used as the bottom of the drawers of the cheap assemble yourself (Sauder, etc.) furniture

[formerly HTbuph]

Maybe it is the same composite material that I've seen used for decks and fences. It is supposed to be resistant to weathering. Maybe they used it because it is more flexible than wood.

[CPanther95]

Originally posted by formerly HTbuph
Maybe it is the same composite material that I've seen used for decks and fences. It is supposed to be resistant to weathering. Maybe they used it because it is more flexible than wood.

No, not even close to that - it's closer to pegboard material than it is resin/wood composite used for decking.

[CPanther95]

Day 12

Ran conduit through riser (for future use)
Play Sand, insulation and topped off stage
HVAC and more electrical
They decided to enclose the equipment rack
more tape and mud

[CPanther95]

Stage

[CPanther95]

Enclosed equipment rack

[doody]

you got some heat-management plans for that enclosed equipment rack? is it open on the side you can't see in that picture?

impressive stuff btw - thank you for posting the pictures and commentary - much appreciated!

doody.

[CPanther95]

There will be a return at the top of the rack. I guess now I can call it my Equipment Room instead of just a rack. :)

[CPanther95]

DAY 13

More wiring - outlets boxes installed into riser
Screen wall started
Riser topped off
HVAC completed in attic
Mud complete

Off 'till Monday.

[CPanther95]

Riser.

[doody]

"and on the thirteenth day, they built a dog".

:)

doody.

[celticwolf]

A dog with LED eyes at that, very creative.

[CPanther95]

Once the fabric goes up, none of the dogs will be allowed that close to the HT.

[vurbano]

Its coming along very quickly.

[704set]

CP, what is your budget for this great looking project?

Thanks,
Skip

[CPanther95]

Originally posted by 704set
CP, what is your budget for this great looking project?

Thanks,
Skip

More than a Toyota, less than a Rolls. :)

[PamW]

Originally posted by celticwolf
A dog with LED eyes at that, very creative.

:D Amazing how they can hide technology these days:D

Keep up the good work, CPanther95!

[CPanther95]

DAY 16

2nd Layer of plywood on the riser.

[Dark Vader]

Uhh, which Toyota?

[patrickwebb]

My guess is a Sequoia.

[Godwire]

CP,

Did you do the room within a room concept? If so, how did you attach the screen wall? Did you attach it to both the ceiling and the stage floor? If so, is the drywall on the ceiling strong enough to hold the screen wall or did you use decouplers?

[CPanther95]

Originally posted by Dark Vader
Uhh, which Toyota?

Pretty much ANY Toyota :eek:

[Stefan Young]

lexus is made by Toyota... don't belive me, get under the hood and look

[CPanther95]

DAY 17

Started the soffit
Finished HVAC into the room
Installed (flat black painted) thermostat
Added some lighting

I didn't realize that the soffit is used as HVAC duct. The soffit across the back contains the returns - and each side soffit contains a supply toward the rear that is channeled forward with supply registers cut in periodically. If you look closely at the left of the picture, the insulation liner is visible.

[CPanther95]

Originally posted by Stefan Young
lexus is made by Toyota...

Yes, it is.

[impeyr]

I am still in the early stages of designing my HT, but I would image the soffits are the places to run the duct work, and the lights plus any and all of the wiring. I am planning to also use fake columns to house both electrical and low-voltage outlets. If you are using room in room construction, this would allow you to maintain an unbroken shell (and that is what we are all trying for?) Or, at least limit the number of breaks to be easily managed. I am hoping to have all my external connections (HVAC, electrical and low voltage) come though one location. This way I can really work on making sure this location is heavily insulated.

Is this how people use soffits and columns? I am assuming it’s for more than just a “pleasant” look.

[CPanther95]

The vast majority of my wiring is behind the wall. Outlets are installed in the riser. Columns are usually used to hide the surround speakers, but could also easily be used to conceal wiring.

[CPanther95]

DAY 18

Completed Soffits and HVAC
Built Proscenium
Installed bullnose front to stage and riser
Installed 8 of 10 lights in soffit
Mounting brackets installed for the 2 side surrounds


SVS sub arrived :)
Carpet scheduled for friday install

[CPanther95]

Shot of Left side soffit with 3 of 5 lights installed - side surround bracket visible

[CPanther95]

Shot of right side soffit (all 5 lights are installed on this side)

[CSpilker]

CPanther95,

The theater is looking great! If I were in your shoes I would get a speeding ticket daily in my race to get home and see the days progress. At the rate DE's crew is going you will be watching movies next month! Keep the pictures coming.

Christian

[Jim Noyd]

Originally posted by CPanther95
Shot of Left side soffit with 3 of 5 lights installed - side surround bracket visible The electrical for the lights are on the outside of the soffit?

[CPanther95]

Originally posted by Jim Noyd
The electrical for the lights are on the outside of the soffit?

If you notice how the lights are dropped down a bit - that's the depth that will be taken up by the padding/fabric covering.

Also note that the 10 lights on the soffit are low voltage lights (20 watt each) so we're only talking about low voltage wiring.

[formerly HTbuph]

Originally posted by CPanther95
Shot of Left side soffit with 3 of 5 lights installed - side surround bracket visible

The brackets are those openings on the slanted part of the wall, just below the soffits?

[mrmike]

Are you using MDF for the soffits? If so, how are you attaching the "free" ends together (the ones not connected to the walls). I've had issues with screws pulling out when I connect MDF to MDF directly and was wondering if anyone had cleverer ideas than mine.

[Jim Noyd]

Originally posted by mrmike
Are you using MDF for the soffits? If so, how are you attaching the "free" ends together (the ones not connected to the walls). I've had issues with screws pulling out when I connect MDF to MDF directly and was wondering if anyone had cleverer ideas than mine. Brackets plus glue and screw should work.

[CPanther95]

Originally posted by formerly HTbuph
The brackets are those openings on the slanted part of the wall, just below the soffits?

Yes.

There'll be one on either side of the projector on the back soffit also.

[formerly HTbuph]

The wood strips to which the MDF is screwed, how are they attached to the walls? Were they screwed into the joists/channel, or were they anchored to the drywall?

[CPanther95]

There's no channel on the slope, so that would be into the stud. The strip on the ceiling looks like it lined up with the channel.

[impeyr]

Very interesting and informative, daily pictures.

A quick question. Why low voltage lights? Is this to allow the cables to run in the soffit, which is also acting as HAVC ducting?

[CPanther95]

The high voltage cans originally planned would completely cut-off airflow (and heat up the air that did pass-through). The low voltage lights don't take up much space if any inside the soffit. The sloped ceiling radically reduces the amount of space inside the soffit than what you'd have with a typical room.

[CPanther95]

DAY 19

Installed door
Installed 2 remaining lights in soffit
Installed light at entryway

[CPanther95]

Crew's off until Monday.

Carpet gets installed Wednesday morning.

[HTbuphb]

Wow! Carpeting after only 3-4 weeks. I guess the lack of framing for the room certainly makes things go a little quicker....not to mention having a crew that knows what they are doing helps a little as well.

[CPanther95]

DAY 23

Re-routed HVAC (vents visible in front soffit) side soffits were too restricted by the sloped ceiling to move enough air.
Hinges on side attic access doors
Painted stage wall black
Cut holes for L & R speakers in MDF
Shelf for Center speaker
Paint ceiling Milano Blue.

[Jim Noyd]

Looking good!

Won't the blue ceiling effect the color of your projected image?

Looks like the angle for the MDF points the speakers in front of the sweet-spot listening position.

[CPanther95]

With the lights down, the ceiling shouldn't be a problem.

The sweet spot should be right at the front center position (in front of the riser)

[Matthew Todd]

Won't the blue ceiling effect the color of your projected image?

According to Dennis "Milano Blue has the unique characteristic of appearing grey when the lights dim."

See this thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=3668709&highlight=milano#post3668709

[formerly HTbuph]

How is the HVAC rerouted?

I noticed that the original vents were covered by the drywall that is screwed into the channel, leaving them venting into the space between the original drywall and the double-layered dw on the channel.

[formerly HTbuph]

Originally posted by Matthew Todd
According to Dennis "Milano Blue has the unique characteristic of appearing grey when the lights dim."

See this thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=3668709&highlight=milano#post3668709

Many colors are muted when the light is low because the particular light wavelength, which the paint reflects to give it its characteristic color, is absent.

[CPanther95]

HVAC supply was disconnected from the original registers and now drop down behind screenwall and out the front of the soffit.

[CPanther95]

DAY 24

Some minor rough trim work and subwoofer access was cut-in behind proscenium.

Carpet gets installed tomorrow
Fabric installers begin 9/1

Berklines should arrive somewhere in between.

[PamW]

Great! Thanks for the updates - and now, more pictures, please!

[CPanther95]

Day 23 photo pretty much shows as is now. I'll take more after the carpet gets put in tomorrow.

[CPanther95]

Day 25

Carpet Installed

Went with a black carpet for the stage and a commercial carpet everywhere else that has a Black, Gray and Maroon pattern that should blend with the fabric.

[CPanther95]

Back

[HDTVFAN0001]

This looks like it's going to be quite a nice setup. Congrats.

I do have one question though:

Why put in the carpet before finishing the walls (paint??)??

Just curious.

Again, congrats on a nice project - and you're moving alone quite well!

[CPanther95]

All the painting is done. Everything else is fabric.

[formerly HTbuph]

Originally posted by HDTVFAN0001
This looks like it's going to be quite a nice setup. Congrats.

I do have one question though:

Why put in the carpet before finishing the walls (paint??)??

Just curious.

Again, congrats on a nice project - and you're moving alone quite well!

Also, somebody else posted in another thread that the carpet installers got a little bit of the glue onto the GOM fabric. I don't know if they ever got the glue out of the fabric. So it is a good idea for the carpet to go in before the fabric.

[patrickwebb]

Yes, I am glad i did carpet first, then installed the fabric. Looking great CPanther95!

[SteveFred]

Very nice looking HT room, I will be glad when mine is done :)

Steve

[HTbuphb]

Panther,

What are the openings next to the rear surround openings in the back soffit?

[CPanther95]

Rear Surrounds Inside / HVAC Returns outside

[jim tressler]

any new update panther??

[CPanther95]

Not until late tomorrow or Thursday night after the fabric installers start.

[CPanther95]

DAY 33

Fabric Installers arrived today.

Started equipment rack assembly
Installed some of the furring strips

[CPanther95]

Right side.

[SteveFred]

I have to install my wall fabric tomorrow, if they have any tips that makes it easier to put up, please let me know :)

Your HT is going to be soooo nice :D

Steve

[patrickwebb]

Originally posted by SteveFred
I have to install my wall fabric tomorrow.

If you can do your fabric in one day, I will be amazed! Good luck!

[HDTVFAN0001]

How come your theater isn't black and Turquoise?

I was sure that it would be!



All kidding aside, your project is coming along nicely. Congrats. Perhaps you need to update the header to say nearing completion, rather than starting construction???

And we LOVE the photos.

[SteveFred]

Well I am actually going to have a buddy coming over to help with it and your right I have 8 ft walls and 24x15 room or basically 70sq yards to put up. I am thinking of running it horizontal so there will be no seams. Crown molding at the top, chair rail in the middle and trim on the bottom. My wall fabric is 54" wide(2 different colors, black on the bottom and Graphite on the top)

Steve

[CPanther95]

Schedule for fabric install is 10 days, but a cushion is built in. That should be the max.

Just got word that Berklines were delayed a month and will not ship until 9/23.

[patrickwebb]

Originally posted by CPanther95
Schedule for fabric install is 10 days, but a cushion is built in. That should be the max.

Just got word that Berklines were delayed a month and will not ship until 9/23.

That's a bummer about your chairs. When is opening night supposed to be?

[CPanther95]

Hopefully the night the chairs are delivered.

[CPanther95]

I'll post a pic tomorrow.

Today they lined the whole area behind the screenwall with a black fiberglass material. Hard to see much difference in a pic from the flat black wall it was previously.

Started hanging the Burgundy (Garnet) GoM fabric on the accent panels.

[Max Spivak]

Originally posted by SteveFred
I am thinking of running it horizontal so there will be no seams.

My theater designer cautions against horizontal fabric installation. With large runs of fabric unsupported it will sag over time.

Max

[Max Spivak]

CPanther, what insulation did they use? JM Linacoustic RC? Did they air-staple it to the walls?

[SteveFred]

Hey Max,

Actually it is totally supported. I used a low water base vinyl adhesive. So it has near 100% coverage. I think if I ever want to take it down, the drywall will have to come with :)

The spots in the pics are air partivcles reflecting off the flash :)
http://www.stevesreefroom.com/DSCN4190.JPG
http://www.stevesreefroom.com/DSCN4191.JPG

http://www.stevesreefroom.com/DSCN4195.JPG

Steve

[Max Spivak]

That looks nice, Steve!

Yeah, if you use an adhesive, you won't have sagging problems. What I referred to was staple-only installation method.

Max

[patrickwebb]

Originally posted by SteveFred
Hey Max,

Actually it is totally supported. I used a low water base vinyl adhesive. So it has near 100% coverage. I think if I ever want to take it down, the drywall will have to come with :)

Steve

Ok, I guess when you said that you were doing the fabric in one day, I was assuming you were doing a full acoustic treatment with fabric stapled to furring strips. I now see that you applied the fabric directly to the walls. Did you consider an acoustic treatment under the fabric in your project? Just curious as to why you decided on just applying fabric directly to the drywall.

[CPanther95]

DAY 39

Continuing fabric installation.

[CPanther95]

DAY 40

More Fabric
More Wiring
3 of the rear surrounds cut-in to the fabric
Crown molding painted and installed around soffit.

[CPanther95]

Shot of the rear soffit.

[CPanther95]

Shot inside of equip. rack - 2 x 4 outlets installed

[chirpie]

Just so you know, we're still out here watching. ^_^

(this has been one of my all time favorite threads to follow here)

[Max Spivak]

Oh yeah...

More fabric installation pics please, especially those that show how to transition between panels, openings, etc.

[audiman]

I do see some light reflection on the black paint, on the ceilling.

Did you use flat ?

[CPanther95]

I'll have to check. I plug in the lights take a couple pics then unplug the lights. When I want to see something I normally check the pics posted here. :)

[CPanther95]

Reflection must just be an anomaly of the flash. Paint is flat.

[CPanther95]

DAY 41

Fabric almost completed - should finish up tomorrow.
Wired and installed all speakers & sub (except RR Surround left out for FP wiring)
Lutron light control hooked up.
Projector installed
Outlets (4) installed in riser

[CPanther95]

Equipment Rack with fabric trim.

[CPanther95]

Back

[HDTVFAN0001]

I commend you on your design, project prgress, and photography.

Your "HD Asylum" is getting close. Hope you enjoy it after working so hard on this!

Nice work. :)

[CPanther95]

The sound is incredible. You can yell and it's as if the sound disappears as soon as it leaves your mouth.

[PamW]

So when do we show up at you home for the NC AVS meet? :D

Just kidding. It is looking terrific!

[CPanther95]

DAY 44
Fabric completed
Continued trim work and equipment hook-up, wiring, etc. through Day 47.

DAY 47

Finished hooking up equipment.
Finished all trim work, etc.

Everything complete except:
* Isco Lens
* Star Field Ceiling
* Curtain
* Some misc. IR receivers
* Berklines (Delayed again - 9/30/04 ship date)

I'll post pics when I get a chance.

[wasch_24]

Ya know, I wonder if they have to skin the cow for the leather everytime an order is placed. Mine took almost 11 weeks to get delivered.
Berklines (Delayed again - 9/30/04 ship date)

[Oswald Pascual]

I really like your choice of color's, are those GOM Fabrics FR701?
I can't seem to find them on the GOM website.

Thanks
Ozzie

[sohailb]

Originally posted by CPanther95
DAY 33

Fabric Installers arrived today.

Started equipment rack assembly
Installed some of the furring strips

I have been reading though this thread and it is quite impressive. I wanted to ask you about the furring strips. I am working on designing my first HT room and have been sponging info from this board. I have seen a few HT construction threads where they use furring strips. I am confused on the purpose for these. Is it purely aesthetic or does it have accoustic properties as well? It looks fantastic with the different color fabrics on the side walls in that pattern of squares and rectangles.

Thanks.

-smb

[Oswald Pascual]

sohailb
In a nutshell it is used to staple the fabric. The Furing strips go on the wall with the acoustic absorbing material within its frame, then you staple the fabric to the furring strip to cover the acoustic absorbing material.

There are several threads out here I think that go into more detail on how to do this.

Ozzie
P.S.
It is not the only way, but one that is very commonly used here. I am doing mine as seperate panels, in case one gets damages I can undo the damaged panel instead of tearing down the entire wall. I have twin 3 year olds. :O

[wasch_24]

Originally posted by Oswald Pascual
...I have twin 3 year olds. :O
Wow, aren't you blessed. That's got to be quite a rewarding challenge.

[Oswald Pascual]

Yes I am wasch_24 it's hard building an HT upstairs on certain scheduled days of with a Little Boy & Girl screaming Daddy up the stairs.
When I do come down the next response they never fail to ask is
"Is it finshed yet?" :)

Ozzie

[sohailb]

Originally posted by Oswald Pascual

"Is it finshed yet?" :)

That is classic.

Thanks for the response. I will do some searching on the accoustic absorbing materials.... initially I thought those furring strips were empty, but then it occurred to me that this does not make much sense as if anyone leans on the wall it would cave in a few inches (or however think the strips are).

I am off to find some accoustics threads...

[HTbuphb]

Is the entry door the original door, or did I miss its being replaced?

[704set]

CPanther, how's the project coming along?

[HK-Steve]

Any Photos of the Fabric and trim finished??

Cheers
Steve

[CPanther95]

I'll try and put up some pics tonight. I've been cheating and watching some stuff up there :)

[patrickwebb]

Ah ha! No wonder! I had to send my projector back for a warranty claim, so hopefully i can get some loose ends worked on in my room. I also took a break from productive work, once the equipment got hooked up.

[HK-Steve]

So you have got this far, and you think that you sit on the carpet
(since your Berklines are delayed again)

and not keep us up to date,

Shame on you :D :D :D



It is GREAT to hear that you are enjoying your HT, even when it isn't quite finished yet.

I am are jealous, I have to share my living room with my Home Theater.
and we rent, so I can't even imagine the joy of a dedicated room

Cheers
Steve

[CPanther95]

Originally posted by HK-Steve
So you have got this far, and you think that you sit on the carpet
(since your Berklines are delayed again)

and not keep us up to date,

Shame on you :D :D :D

Actually, I went to Target and picked up some temporary seating. ;)

[chirpie]

Originally posted by CPanther95
Actually, I went to Target and picked up some temporary seating. ;)

Yes... I can see it now... a... a garage sale... in your future... with target furniture as the center piece!

[CPanther95]

Just some beanbag video chairs we'll use as spares for extra seating when needed.

[CPanther95]

DAY 47

OK, I know it's Day 52, but no work has been done since Day 47. I'll post more pics when they get the Starfield ceiling and Isco lens installed.

Here's the front.

[CPanther95]

...back

[CPanther95]

Equipment Racks

[CPanther95]

... my weak attempt at a screenshot.

[Oswald Pascual]

CPanther95

Is your idea to go with a constant height screen then?
Also when your watching HDTV at 1:78 aspect ration what diagonal image size will you get with your 2:35 screen?

Do you have any photos of how they handle your large window?
Ozzie

[CPanther95]

Constant height 9'6" wide 2:35 (forget diagonal) will yield roughly 99" 16:9 image.

Look back in the thread for window pics.

[CPanther95]

Dennis talked me into constant height - initially it went against the grain of what I had pictured. But I'm glad I did. It's true that when you reach the limit in height for the image to be comfortable visually, you can handle plenty of width. I couldn't go much taller than the 48" in height with a 4:3 screen at 10' viewing distance anyway.

To me the clincher is the picture gets bigger the more "important" the source. 4:3 is smallest, HDTV is next, and movies are the largest. With constant width, the reverse is true.

[PamW]

CPanther95,

Very nice! I know you are looking forward to the seating arriving!

[CPanther95]

More anxious to get the lens. There's a lot of screen real estate unused until then.

[MBK]

CPanther,

Would you mind posting a small amount about your constant height set up? What does the video chain look like? What sort of processing is being used? How does the lens fit into the setup? I'd be interested in learning more about this.

[HT Nitwit]

The theater looks incredible! I wish my project would move as quickly as yours did.

[Oswald Pascual]

I as curious about this as MBK.
I know that the ISCO lense has to be perfectly align with the PJ or you will get edge distortion, also I thought the anamorphic squeeze lens were for use on 4:3 projectors. I am not familiar with the Sharp PJ you are using, but is there an ISCO lens for a 16:9 PJ that spreads the 2:35 image? If so is it a manual change of the lens every time you get a different aspect ratio?

I have always wanted a constant height screen, but found the function on them to be cumbersome. Maybe its a bit more automated now since last time I considered this.

Ozzie

[CPanther95]

Originally posted by MBK
CPanther,

Would you mind posting a small amount about your constant height set up? What does the video chain look like? What sort of processing is being used? How does the lens fit into the setup? I'd be interested in learning more about this.

First the downside - in order to maximize PQ, I'll need to remove the lens (unscrew) for an HDTV source. I'll do a comparison to see what impact the lens has on an HDTV source and decide if the gain in PQ without the lens is offset by the inconvenience of having to remove the lens.

One thing to keep in mind is that the FP is 16:9 HD, so the goal is to utilize the full 16:9 of the FP dedicated to program material (not black bars that will be masked out) to get the most resolution possible. Using round numbers, my screen is 48" tall and 114" wide.

On an HDTV image the source is basically sent through untouched. The image fills the 720 lines of resolution of the projector and projects an image that is 48" high x 86" wide. The extra width (14" per side) of the screen is masked off and is unused.

On an HD movie that is shot in a 2.35:1 AR -

Without the lens and processing - the image would be sent as a 16:9 image with black bars on top and bottom. That means about 175 lines of resolution are spent projecting the bars and 545 lines actually used for the HD program material. The screen image would then be 36" tall (6" bars top and bottom) x 86" wide and not HD resolution. Then you either mask the top and bottom, or you could zoom (doubtful the FP has a big enough zoom range) the picture to fill the 48" x 114" screen. That would make the image "full size" but still at a lower resolution.

With the lens and processing -
1. The image goes through the video processor (Lumagen) and the VP stretches the image vertically, eliminating the bars. At this point you get an image that uses the full 720p of the FP and is 48" x 86" 16:9. But everything is "tall & skinny".

2. The Isco Horizontal stretch lens will take that 720p "tall/skinny" image and stretch it horizontally from 86" wide to 114" wide and return the image to it's proper proportions. The end result is a full resolution image that fills the entire width of the screen.

The only caveat is if I leave the lens in place it will always be stretching a 48" tall 16:9 image (86" wide) to a 48" tall 2.35:1 image (114" wide). In this case a 16:9 HD image will have to be squeezed horizontally by the VP about 25% (tall/skinny) using only 75% of the FP's resolution (width wise). Then the projected image through the lens will be 86" wide program material with 14" on each side black bars at a reduced resolution.

So for optimum PQ, I'll need to rmove the lens for 16:9 material and replace it for 2.35:1 material.

If I had gone with a constant width setup I wouldn't have been able to go much taller than 48" high at 10' viewing distance so my options basically boiled down to the following:

48.5" x 64.7" 4:3 Screen -
4:3 Material = 81" Diagonal (21.8 sf)
16:9 Material = 74" Diagonal (16.3 sf)
2.35:1 Material = 70" Diagonal (12.5 sf)


48.5" x 86.2" 16:9 Screen -
4:3 Material = 81" Diagonal (21.8 sf)
16:9 Material = 99" Diagonal (29.0 sf)
2.35:1 Material = 94" Diagonal (21.9 sf)


48.5" x 114" 2.35:1 Screen -
4:3 Material = 81" Diagonal (21.8 sf)
16:9 Material = 99" Diagonal (29.0 sf)
2.35:1 Material = 124" Diagonal (38.4 sf)

Looking at the amount of screen (square footage not diagonal) since most movies are in 2.35:1 ratio - and it is a Home Theater after all - it ended up being a no-brainer.

[CPanther95]

Originally posted by Oswald Pascual
I as curious about this as MBK.
I know that the ISCO lense has to be perfectly align with the PJ or you will get edge distortion, also I thought the anamorphic squeeze lens were for use on 4:3 projectors. I am not familiar with the Sharp PJ you are using, but is there an ISCO lens for a 16:9 PJ that spreads the 2:35 image? If so is it a manual change of the lens every time you get a different aspect ratio?

I have always wanted a constant height screen, but found the function on them to be cumbersome. Maybe its a bit more automated now since last time I considered this.

Ozzie

Most anamorphic lenses squeeze vertically not horizontally (because most FP's up until recently were 4:3 not 16:9) in that case - with a 4:3 projector, you'd have to go with a constant width setup to maximize resolution and the lens would take the 4:3 "tall/skinny" image and squash it down to 16:9. For 2.35:1 movies, you'd still lose resolution though.

With a 16:9 FP in a constant width setup - you have the same issues that you have with a constant height setup. You stretch the 2.35:1 image vertically and the lens would compress the image back down to 2.35 to 1 at full resolution - but if you have an HD source image, you'd need to remove the lens.

[wasch_24]

Man it's looking good, I'm genuinely excited for you.
So, what's going to be the premiere when it is all completed?

[CPanther95]

Originally posted by wasch_24
Man it's looking good, I'm genuinely excited for you.
So, what's going to be the premiere when it is all completed?

Not sure - I've got Man on Fire from Netflix that I'm waiting to watch if they can wrap things up soon. Otherwise it will probably be either the Star Wars or Godfather Trilogies.

[704set]

Any photos?

[patrickwebb]

Originally posted by 704set
Any photos?

You are kidding right? Go back through the entire post!

[704set]

He hasn't posted any recent photos.

[patrickwebb]

Originally posted by patrickwebb
You are kidding right? Go back through the entire post!

Yeah, 3 days ago is a long time.

[CPanther95]

Nothing has changed since Day 47.

[wasch_24]

Originally posted by CPanther95
Not sure - I've got Man on Fire from Netflix that I'm waiting to watch if they can wrap things up soon. Otherwise it will probably be either the Star Wars or Godfather Trilogies.
The new Star Wars DVD's look really good on my 65" Mitsu Diamond...that would be a good choice.

[CPanther95]

Originally posted by wasch_24
The new Star Wars DVD's look really good on my 65" Mitsu Diamond...that would be a good choice.

Yeah, definitely want the anamorphic lens installed for those.

[704set]

Nothing has changed since Day 47.

Thank you, CPanther. I was hoping you would answer rather than someone with an attitude.

[SteveFred]

I just watch Starwar on my 119" and it looked alot better than the original release and the sound was fantastic :)

Trying to listen to the entire movie at ref(80dbs) was pretty tough, I think I lost some hearing, heheheheh

You HT is looking awesome :)

Steve

[DanKaps]

Yeah, 3 days ago is a long time.


Keep in mind, 3 days worth of work completed in HIS room is like 2 months worth compared to most of us. :)

[CPanther95]

Received lens today - waiting to get a finish date. Chairs still scheduled to ship 9/30.

[tlllava]

Two days and no report of how that lens made the picture look. Damm. Can't wait to see what it looks like when the chairs are in there.

[Dennis Erskine]

If you're in the Atlanta area, you can stop by our showroom theater and see what that lens will do.

[CPanther95]

On a side note.

I'm amazed at the technology/engineering present in something as mundane as the screen. I'll qualify this by saying that it is my first foray into front projection, so it may not be as impressive to others. What amazes me is, despite the fact there are massive amounts of light pouring out of the projector, when watching a 16:9 ratio image - with the lights completely off - there is absolutely no spill over of light on the unused left and right unused sides of the screen. I see nothing but the image in the middle of a black wall.

However, if I turn on the rope lighting in the soffit on a very low dimmed setting. The screen is so efficeint that all of a sudden the 14" of unused screen on each side becomes visible (dark gray) and you can see an impact on the picture.

Obviously everyone can't have 100% ambient light control, but that should be the goal - if at all possible - because even at 95%, it will have a noticible difference on PQ.

[Jim Noyd]

What effect does the blue ceiling have on the projected image?

[CPanther95]

Originally posted by Jim Noyd
What effect does the blue ceiling have on the projected image?

None, with the lights out. Generally it's pitch black when watching a movie, but for football, I've been turning on the soffit light so the room is lit enough for everyone to see each other. The soffit light on the blue gives a sunrise (or sunset) effect.

[suffolk112000]

Any more progress to report... ?

Craig

[CPanther95]

Not yet. Chairs ship tomorrow - still waiting to hear about a completion date for the construction.

[CPanther95]

Chairs shipped.

Build should be completed the week of 10/10.

[HK-Steve]

That is Excellent news,

Can't wait to see it all finished.

Cheers
Steve

[CPanther95]

Chairs came in today. Hauled 'em up and put them in place. I'll take a picture when I recover and can pick up my digital camera again. :)

[PamW]

(to everyone else on the forum) Dang! Now he's gonna sit in those Berklines and we all know what'll happen next - he won't want to get up to take the pics :D

(to CPanther 95) Can't wait to see your pics CPanther95! The progress has been terrific. ;)

Just having fun! Looking forward to seeing the finished room!

[Clarence]

when you recover?!

I had visions of an NFL player (Panthers #95 (http://www.cpanthers.com/team/teamRosterDetails.jsp?id=12364)) lifting all those chairs with one arm. Please don't tell me you were born in '95. Or is 2095 when you think they'll win the Super Bowl?! :D

Um, you knew the back half slides off easily, right? ;)

[CPanther95]

Panthers '95 (our 1st year)

You spend 10 years in the Carolinas - home of the world's best barbecue - and see what kind of shape you're in. :)

Actually the worst part wasn't carrying the chairs upstairs (like you said the backs are off when you get the chairs) - the tough part was getting them off the truck. The boxes are so damn big that you can't get a good hold on them - so it's kinda like lifting a 120 lb bar bell from one end instead of the middle.

[chirpie]

Originally posted by CPanther95


You spend 10 years in the Carolinas - home of the world's best barbecue - and see what kind of shape you're in. :)




I take issue with that! (Kansas City suburb representing!) Man, I wonder if you even use burnt ends properly... :P

[Ron_C]

CPanther95,

What are the names of the GOM colors you used?

Thanks,
Ron

[CPanther95]

Originally posted by chirpie
I take issue with that! (Kansas City suburb representing!) Man, I wonder if you even use burnt ends properly... :P
Boston Butt barbecued for 24 hours, chopped and smothered by King's Barbecue Sauce imported from Petersburg, VA - can't be beat.

BTW - spent some time in Leavenworth :) so I had KC BBQ many years ago, and don't remember it comparing to what I described above.

[CPanther95]

Originally posted by Ron_C
CPanther95,

What are the names of the GOM colors you used?

Thanks,
Ron

Check the first post in the thread - I added the GoM color numbers to the names.

[wasch_24]

Originally posted by CPanther95
Boston Butt barbecued for 24 hours, chopped and smothered by King's Barbecue Sauce imported from Petersburg, VA - can't be beat.

BTW - spent some time in Leavenworth :) so I had KC BBQ many years ago, and don't remember it comparing to what I described above. The prison?!?!?!

[CPanther95]

Let's just say I was there at the request of the Federal Government. :)

Actually, my Dad (Army) was stationed at Ft. Leavenworth to attend the C&GS College located there. The closest I got to the Penitentiary was the view of the dome I had from my bedroom window. I did get a $0.50 haircut from one of the prisoners at the Disciplinary Barracks (Army prison located in Ft. Leavenworth) though. I over-paid.

[ifeliciano]

Originally posted by chirpie
I take issue with that!

Yeah...If you're in Texas, according to the BBQ eaters here. :)

I like my beef raw and without any sauces...


Originally posted by CPanther95
You spend 10 years in the Carolinas - home of the world's best barbecue - and see what kind of shape you're in.

If you recall, sometime last year or the begining of this, Houston, TX was voted the fatest city in the US of A. I think it's the good 'ole BBQ....Well maybe the heat keeping people stagnant in their homes has something to do with that...:D

[chirpie]

Originally posted by ifeliciano

If you recall, sometime last year or the begining of this, Houston, TX was voted the fatest city in the US of A. I think it's the good 'ole BBQ....Well maybe the heat keeping people stagnant in their homes has something to do with that...:D

Yeah, KC had that #1 position a few years back too. I have no doubt that the BBQ is to blame for the obecity of our fair cities. :-)

For the record though, I'm 5' 11" and 150lbs, so don't anyone go looking to blame me for that statistic. ^_^:

[chirpie]

Originally posted by CPanther95
Boston Butt barbecued for 24 hours, chopped and smothered by King's Barbecue Sauce imported from Petersburg, VA - can't be beat.

BTW - spent some time in Leavenworth :) so I had KC BBQ many years ago, and don't remember it comparing to what I described above.

I guess it's all subjective. (Though I can't think of any favs. in Leavenworth) For example, I hate, hate, HATE any kind of sweet tang to my BBQ, I like a more chili pepper kind of slant to the taste. (As a reference, KC Masterpiece is waaaay to sweet... Aurther Bryants Original Sauce is more my style.)

BTW, you just missed the BBQ feast down at the American Royal, (last weekend) which is the biggest in the world. It's a hoot. (Note that I said biggest, not best. I'm sure that honor changes from location to location every year. ^_^ )


uhhh... this is going off topic... um...

Nice theater! Be proud! Uh, yeah. :-)

[Clarence]

Originally posted by CPanther95
BTW - spent some time in Leavenworth :) Ha! I went to a friend's wedding in KC several years ago. We drove by Leavenworth and I thought, cool... I'll get some pictures. So we pull over and I get my camera out... I hear the distinct sound of a shotgun being pumped and a bullhorn from a guard tower bellows out: "PUT DOWN THAT F**CKING CAMERA".

Um, OK. :eek:

As we drive away I notice the signs posted every 10 yards that say "No Photography". Oops. :o

I've been to 42 of the 50 states... I've had damn fine BBQ in maybe 10 states. I think my current favorite is "The Shed" near Biloxi MS. Mmmm..

We're hungrily awaiting more pix, panther...

-Clarence

[PamW]

We live in NC - husband grew up in Texas (west) - therefore I must love all barbecue - both pork and beef!
Cpanther95 - hurry up with those pics - we're getting hungry out here :D

[ifeliciano]

It's funny how we come up with totally OT stuff just to keep this thread going. :)

I wrote before and here it goes again: This forum has the best members of any forum. I've ever visited. There's always help from everyone and always something to put a smile on my face..


By the way, I've been visiting online forums since the BBS days @ 1200 baud.

[CPanther95]

Originally posted by ifeliciano
It's funny how we come up with totally OT stuff just to keep this thread going. :)

I wrote before and here it goes again: This forum has the best members of any forum. I've ever visited. There's always help from everyone and always something to put a smile on my face..


By the way, I've been visiting online forums since the BBS days @ 1200 baud.

Please keep on topic. The quality of members on this forum has nothing to do with barbecue. :D

[slapnuts]

Originally posted by CPanther95
Panthers '95 (our 1st year)

You spend 10 years in the Carolinas - home of the world's best barbecue - and see what kind of shape you're in. :)

Actually the worst part wasn't carrying the chairs upstairs (like you said the backs are off when you get the chairs) - the tough part was getting them off the truck. The boxes are so damn big that you can't get a good hold on them - so it's kinda like lifting a 120 lb bar bell from one end instead of the middle.

well whats the HD games llike every Sun? I am sold on HD after this l;ast weekend..... wow was I missing alot!

[CPanther95]

DAY 65

Chairs installed .

[CPanther95]

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[HDTVFAN0001]

From what I can see in your photos - your new Home Theater setup looks great!

Have you tried setting your camera on "low light", "nightime". or similar settings to lighten them up (just a suggestion). A tripod on low-light settings helps as well.

You should be quite proud and enjoy the results. Congrats. :)

[chirpie]

Originally posted by HDTVFAN0001
From what I can see in your photos - your new Home Theater setup looks great!

Have you tried setting your camera on "low light", "nightime". or similar settings to lighten them up (just a suggestion). A tripod on low-light settings helps as well.

You should be quite proud and enjoy the results. Congrats. :)

Agreed, the flash will make certain colors behave diffrently than what they look like when you're actually there. (I.E., I'll bet dollars to donughts that millano blue is much more subdued in reality.)

Most digital cameras now have a manual setting where you can change the ISO (though some call it something different than that).

Like HHDTVFAN0001 said, you'll need a tripod.

And it looks great regardless, we're just greedy. :-)

[CPanther95]

I'll play around with it this weekend.

[Oswald Pascual]

Pretty Slick looking there.

What color is the door actually painted? It looks black on my screen, but not a dark black, also did your berklines actually come with black cup holders? The ones I have seen seem to have some fake wood color or silver.

[CPanther95]

They are chrome cup holders - but not enough to have any impact.

The door and all trim is a dark charcoal - something in between a dark gray and black.

[bollingm]

That looks GREAT!!!! Wonderfull job, and one day I to will have such a nice setup.