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Statix
08-04-05, 10:00 PM
www.hd.net
you have to download some tsr p2p proprietary torrent client.
File size is proportedly 1.3 gig wmv for 20 mins. I can't get the
file to download, maybe someone else can.

Statix
08-05-05, 10:32 AM
Link to Yahoo news article:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050805/ap_on_hi_te/hdnet_peer_to_peer

mpgxsvcd
08-05-05, 11:43 AM
I downloaded it last night. 1.29 Gigs to be exact. It didn't look like there was any DRM. This wil l become your new video to show off your HTPC. It is for me now!

Statix
08-05-05, 12:12 PM
I still can not get their p2p software to work, maybe we could
set up a real torrent for it?

mpgxsvcd
08-05-05, 01:52 PM
What is the legality of this? If they share it openly on the net do we have the right to share it openly? If someone posts one of their copyrighted images on the net are with allowed share that image with someone else? Is it ok as long as we don’t pass it off as our own or profit from it? Just curious?

Are you using Internet Explorer and do you have your pop up blocker turned off. Once I did these two things every worked. It could be your firewall also? Once I downloaded the video I removed all of the programs that it installed. They seemed to be eating up a lot of resources.

PAP
08-05-05, 02:00 PM
Save isn't working for me says access not allowed. I started the "background" download but I'm not impressed so far. Torrent it please!

Statix
08-05-05, 02:44 PM
It would be really cool if Mark would give his blessing for us to start a torrent.

JTAnderson
08-05-05, 06:27 PM
Add me to the list of those who couldn't get it to download.

I installed the Red Swoosh client.

I skipped the subscribe step as I have no desire to be bothered by spam.

I clicked on the Download Now link and got a page that wanted me to download and install the client again. If I right click on this link and choose Save Target As, I get a file named 2.htm which is the same page, offering to install the client.

I tried the background download link too, but I somehow doubt it will ever do anything.

I removed the client as I have no desire to keep useless sh!t on my PC.

Another vote for a torrent.

mpgxsvcd
08-05-05, 11:10 PM
I got the same thing when I "RIGHT" clicked on the link and clicked save as. So I left clicked. It tried to bring it up in media player. I didn't want that so I went back and right clicked after it had started the download. Then it let me save as. I would start a torrent but I am still not sure on the legality and plus I have no idea how to start a torrent or even search for one. Why can't downloading be easy like in the days of Kazza and Bear Share! It is just to complicated now!

jflatt
08-05-05, 11:11 PM
IE Only

dlarsen
08-06-05, 12:49 AM
While we’re voting and if you’re reading Mark, how about releasing in a more ‘neutral’ ‘open’ format like Transport Stream? IIRC your original thoughts were in favor of .ts files.

BTW, Way cool you’re doing this…

Dave

PAP
08-06-05, 08:13 AM
If it's freely downloadable, I can't see how a torrent would be a problem.

When I try to left click, i get the following error:

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /hd/store/HDNet_Shuttle_Discovery.wmv on this server.


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Apache/1.3.33 Server at plain.jgassociates.ca Port 80

claw
08-06-05, 08:31 AM
I was able to download it with Firefox.

Right-clicked and copied the URL for download and pasted it into Firefox. Removed the first portion of the URL, leaving just the portion that points to the source location for the wmv file.

Entered the new URL, and chose download when asked whether to open or download. I was able to get a download speed of 535Kb/sec.

3rob3
08-06-05, 09:26 AM
Just go here:
http://www.onefeed.net/hd/store/

Then you can right click/save target as on the video

Sherbona
08-06-05, 10:12 AM
No go. I get an error when I click on http://www.onefeed.net/hd/store/

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Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /hd/store/ on this server.
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psycho
08-06-05, 10:37 AM
[QUOTE=Sherbona]No go. I get an error when I click on http://www.onefeed.net/hd/store/

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Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /hd/store/ on this server.
---------------------[/QUOTE]
no problem here, downloading at about 180kb/s, god why do I still think that's fast? :confused:

Axel
08-06-05, 10:41 AM
[QUOTE=claw]I was able to download it with Firefox.

Right-clicked and copied the URL for download and pasted it into Firefox. Removed the first portion of the URL, leaving just the portion that points to the source location for the wmv file.

Entered the new URL, and chose download when asked whether to open or download. I was able to get a download speed of 535Kb/sec.[/QUOTE]


Thanks for the tip. Based on your suggestion I tried
http://www.onefeed.net/hd/store/HDNet_Shuttle_Discovery.wmv

Downloading with FF right now. I am at 200 MB and getting around 650KB/s but it is slowly dropping...
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Axel

PAP
08-06-05, 10:43 AM
With either of those alternative methods I'm getting the same forbidden error:

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /hd/store/HDNet_Shuttle_Discovery.wmv on this server.

jimwhite
08-06-05, 10:47 AM
"With either of those alternative methods I'm getting the same forbidden error:"

me too.... :(

:cool:

Sherbona
08-06-05, 10:48 AM
Same here, with any of the alternative methods listed here (being very careful to follow the steps) or even following the exact official steps and doing the subscribe thing I get the same 'Forbidden' error. :(

Axel
08-06-05, 10:55 AM
[QUOTE=PAP]With either of those alternative methods I'm getting the same forbidden error:

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /hd/store/HDNet_Shuttle_Discovery.wmv on this server.[/QUOTE]

Have you I tried to manually paste the link
onefeed.net/hd/store/HDNet_Shuttle_Discovery.wmv ?

(You need to add http://www in front of it.)
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Axel

Sherbona
08-06-05, 10:58 AM
I did several times - I get that Forbidden message

hammerdwn
08-06-05, 11:02 AM
When I cut & paste the URL into DAP (Download Accellerator), I get a dialog box prompting for a USERNAME & PASSWORD???

But if I cut & paste the URL into IE address bar, then WMP10 opens and starts trying to play... buffer... play... buffer...

Hammer

netman
08-06-05, 11:18 AM
downloading at 5-9 megabits as I type. At 220 megabytes I have averaged 825 KB/sec

Axel
08-06-05, 11:31 AM
Done - 40 min and w/o a hitch (I really like broadband!)
Clip looks nice on my PC, but I'll wait till tonight before I fire up my PJ.

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Axel

netman
08-06-05, 11:41 AM
Got it here. Looks great! In my office on my 23" widescreen at the moment. Want to see it on a bigger screen too. Later when I am home.

Statix
08-06-05, 12:34 PM
i get the forbidden message regardless of what i do. What a pain... I wonder what
those of us unfortunate enough to get the forbidden message have in common?

JTAnderson
08-06-05, 01:06 PM
The link in post 14 worked just fine for me. Thanks, Rob.

litzdog911
08-06-05, 01:24 PM
Yep, the link in post 14 seems to be working for me, too. I'm downloading it now. Says it'll take 4 hours over my DSL connection!

Will Media Player 10 play this file without any add-ins?

Statix
08-06-05, 01:38 PM
is that with or without the redswoosh p2p client installed?

litzdog911
08-06-05, 01:42 PM
[QUOTE=Statix]is that with or without the redswoosh p2p client installed?[/QUOTE]

I did not install the redswoosh p2p client. Just followed the simple instructions in post #14. It's still downloading, so hopefully I can play it in Media Player without any other add-ins.

Axel
08-06-05, 01:43 PM
[QUOTE=Statix]is that with or without the redswoosh p2p client installed?[/QUOTE]

I simply double-clicked on the wmy file and the WMP10 started to play it. I have no add-ins installed AFAIK.
______
Axel

Statix
08-06-05, 03:09 PM
I get the forbidden msg w/ or w/o the redswoosh client.
The redswoosh client seems quite shady, I'm not comfortable
at all with it on my system.

Statix
08-06-05, 03:10 PM
I vote somebody starts a torrent, If its freely distributed on www.hd.net then
I don't think Mr. Cuban would mind if someone started a torrent.

daphatty
08-06-05, 03:24 PM
I call BS on this. None of the links work, even with their P2P client installed I can't get the video to download. Maybe that's why no one has made their own torrent. :mad:

Stryker412
08-06-05, 03:38 PM
I have tried all methods mentioned and I still cannot DL the file. I mostly get the You don't have permission error.

litzdog911
08-06-05, 05:15 PM
Well, my download hung after 3 hours into an estimated 4 hour download. So I started it over again. No "permission" errors, though.

Perhaps some ISPs are blocking access to this site?

Stryker412
08-06-05, 05:23 PM
Yeah would someone be kind enough to make a torrent out of this?

Dynacoman
08-06-05, 05:33 PM
I downloaded just fine. I just gotta find a computer that will play this without choking on it.

mbaysing
08-06-05, 06:45 PM
I finally got it. A DNS lookup for www.onefeed.net returned 3 IP addresses. I tried all three in place of the host name in the URL. Two of them gave me "403 Forbidden", the other one worked:

http://66.98.222.62/hd/store/HDNet_Shuttle_Discovery.wmv

Maybe this explains why it's working for some people, but not others.

Rich_Halvorson
08-06-05, 06:47 PM
[QUOTE=litzdog911]
Perhaps some ISPs are blocking access to this site?[/QUOTE]

That's what I thought too, because I was getting the no permission everyone has mentioned with both firefox and IE last night, and then at work today the link worked.
And when I got home I tried the same computer I was using before and got the error, but then I decieded to try my other computer connected to the same router and it worked.
The first computer I had installed that swoosh crap, maybe that has something to do with it.
I'm cruising now at 575 kb/sec, 30 minutes left.

Sherbona
08-06-05, 06:51 PM
[QUOTE=mbaysing]I finally got it. A DNS lookup for www.onefeed.net returned 3 IP addresses. I tried all three in place of the host name in the URL. Two of them gave me "403 Forbidden", the other one worked:

http://66.98.222.62/hd/store/HDNet_Shuttle_Discovery.wmv

Maybe this explains why it's working for some people, but not others.[/QUOTE]


Very clever - Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!

netman
08-06-05, 07:00 PM
Just for the record, it looks great on my 47" CRT.

Statix
08-06-05, 07:40 PM
[QUOTE=mbaysing]I finally got it. A DNS lookup for www.onefeed.net returned 3 IP addresses. I tried all three in place of the host name in the URL. Two of them gave me "403 Forbidden", the other one worked:

http://66.98.222.62/hd/store/HDNet_Shuttle_Discovery.wmv

Maybe this explains why it's working for some people, but not others.[/QUOTE]

You are a god among men!
Your resourcefulness is very much appreciated.

pete4
08-06-05, 07:50 PM
[QUOTE=mbaysing]I finally got it. A DNS lookup for www.onefeed.net returned 3 IP addresses. I tried all three in place of the host name in the URL. Two of them gave me "403 Forbidden", the other one worked:

http://66.98.222.62/hd/store/HDNet_Shuttle_Discovery.wmv

Maybe this explains why it's working for some people, but not others.[/QUOTE]



Thank you very much for the link. I've been trying since last night on 2 different computers running this crappy program and it told me it will start downloading in few hours??? in the meantime nothing was happenning. Now after using the link I'm downloading at 1.3 Megabytes/sec, should be done in 15 min, thanks again.

Stryker412
08-06-05, 07:58 PM
[QUOTE=mbaysing]I finally got it. A DNS lookup for www.onefeed.net returned 3 IP addresses. I tried all three in place of the host name in the URL. Two of them gave me "403 Forbidden", the other one worked:

http://66.98.222.62/hd/store/HDNet_Shuttle_Discovery.wmv

Maybe this explains why it's working for some people, but not others.[/QUOTE]

Yes thank you! I'm DL at the full extent of my broadband. :D

Statix
08-06-05, 08:02 PM
Mark should get his money back from those redswoosh people, bad dns, ip's down,
and the program has the feel of a trojan virus. Pretty shady program IMO.
Take the money from them and donate it to HDTV's for the homeless, they deserve
it much more.

Stryker412
08-06-05, 08:28 PM
Is the clip in 5.1 too?

PAP
08-06-05, 09:22 PM
Mbaysing - you're the man! Downloading now. Wish I were that smart. :)

Stryker412
08-06-05, 10:18 PM
I just watched this and man what fantastic PQ! I can't wait to see more HDnet material.

daphatty
08-06-05, 10:20 PM
I gave up and grabbed it from the newsgroups. :) Should have it in 20 minutes.

Statix
08-06-05, 10:36 PM
what is everyones cpu usage during playback?
I'm getting mid 30's with spikes as high as 55 percent cpu usage
as reported by taskmanager. I have a p4 3.4 ghz and a 6800gt.

Statix
08-06-05, 10:37 PM
[QUOTE=daphatty]I gave up and grabbed it from the newsgroups. :) Should have it in 20 minutes.[/QUOTE]

What newsgroup did you find it in? I've been looking for a place
such as a newsgroup to get HD clips from.

mell1n
08-07-05, 01:45 AM
just beautiful. i was holding back on getting an hd card, but this may put me over the edge.

i am seeing usage around 60-70% peaking up to 90% on my laptop (1.6 p-m w/ intel gfx).

litzdog911
08-07-05, 02:02 AM
[QUOTE=Stryker412]Is the clip in 5.1 too?[/QUOTE]

I wondered the same thing. It plays back beautifully on my HP z557 MCE PC, but the audio does not seem to be DD5.1. Does anyone know for sure what audio is provided in this file?

jmonaco
08-07-05, 09:58 AM
I successfully dowloaded the file over night, double-clicked on it this morning, and Wndows Media 10 came up add started playing it. Resolution looks excellent. but it stutters. Would anyone have an idea why and how to fix it?

My set-up:
Pioneer Elite 50" @ 1280 x 768 res.
P4 2.4GHz, HT, 800MHz FSB
1G RAM
NVIDIA 6600 GT AGP w/DVI-to-XVGA input to plasma
Audigy 2
MyHD MDP-130
WinTV-350 PVR
Win XP Pro SP2 + latest updates

Thanks,
John.

Statix
08-07-05, 10:31 AM
what is your cpu usage? That would be my best guess.

Also, run the performance checker at www.wmvhd.com at the bottom of the page.

jmonaco
08-07-05, 05:19 PM
Turns out the graphics card was not getting enough power. Replaced Sesonic 300W PS with an Antec 480W TruPower PS. The HDNet flick plays well now. BTW, CPU usage varies between 40 and 50%.

diogen
08-07-05, 05:32 PM
[QUOTE=litzdog911]Does anyone know for sure what audio is provided in this file?[/QUOTE]

The properties window of the file says it's standard CD audio:
44kHz, 16 bit, 2 channels.

Diogen.

jmonaco
08-07-05, 05:35 PM
[QUOTE=Statix]what is your cpu usage? That would be my best guess.

Also, run the performance checker at www.wmvhd.com at the bottom of the page.[/QUOTE]

Excellent lead! Thank you! My system can play all of the movies listed in the test except Terminator 2. I suspect upgrading my CPU to 3.0GHz (the max my MB can accept) may do that trick. Performance for the movies that do play comes in a bit above 720P, but not near 1080.

stranx44
08-09-05, 03:45 PM
I downloaded the file (2x actually), but still get a message indicating that WM10 cannot play the file, because of an unsupported codec?

Can anyone tell me the codec the HD.NET file uses and where to grab it at?

Statix
08-09-05, 05:18 PM
thats strange, the codec should be included with wmp10, after all it is microsofts media
player. You might try to uninstall wmp and reinstall it... If thats even possible.