Confirmed MSRP drop on Panasonic plasmas

[No_Towel_Lint]

Sorry about starting a new thread for this but I'm at work and don't have time to filter through other threads....

I have just received confirmation in print of the rumored price drop taking effect on August 28.

Panasonic TH42PX50U drops to $2999.99
Panasonic TH50PX50U drops to $3999.99
Panasonic TH42PD50U drops to $1999.99

These are MSRP drops, not sale prices or after-rebate prices.

[cmonsammy]

[QUOTE=No_Towel_Lint]Sorry about starting a new thread for this but I'm at work and don't have time to filter through other threads....

I have just received confirmation in print of the rumored price drop taking effect on August 28.

Panasonic TH42PX50U drops to $2999.99
Panasonic TH50PX50U drops to $3999.99
Panasonic TH42PD50U drops to $1999.99

These are MSRP drops, not sale prices or after-rebate prices.[/QUOTE]

Fantastic! Does anybody have a sense of how quickly, and how thoroughly, the marketplace usually reflects an MSRP drop?

[No_Towel_Lint]

You will see the prices effective on August 28 in Circuit City stores.

[NYSportz]

Sorry if this question has been answered elsewhere already, but is there an expected MSRP drop on the industrial models? If not, can we expect to see lower prices on industrial models in the market anyhow?

Thanks,
Justin

[No_Towel_Lint]

Well, I can tell you that MSRP is dropping on some other non-plasma TVs from Panasonic as well so they are obviously doing some price drops on August 28th across the board on a lot of sets.

[wctug]

Any confirmed news regarding 50PX500U and 42PX500U?

[KANE4]

This past Sunday's ad for Sears shows the new MSRP.

Kane

[RickGr4]

Looks like my 42PD25 is headed for the Master Bedroom sooner than I thought. The 50PX50 will look good in my Family Room...................!!!!! :)

[valkyrie]

Interesting that the "confirmed" drops are half of what the "rumored" drops were. Hopefully, this will trickle down into the discounts we see online and from forum supporting sites by this weekend.

[No_Towel_Lint]

I think these drops are in line with the rumor. The drop on the 42" was always rumored to be $500 and the 50" was rumored to be $1000....at least, that was my understanding of the rumor.

[10secbee]

Do you think the commercial displays like the 50phd7uy wil see any drop in price? Thanks

[No_Towel_Lint]

I don't have any information about the commercial models, but if it's true that these price drops are an effort to battle DLP it's possible that these price drops will be focused on only consumer models. However, having said that, it doesn't make sense to have unreasonably large gap in price for the consumer and commercial models so who knows.

[rogo]

These are very consistent with the rumor, specifically on the 50 inch and the 42-inch ED model. I think the 42HD is consistent as well, although that now looks the worst buy to me by far.

I hate to look ahead, but it appears possible that $2500 will buy a 50-inch plasma in two years. The long ago Rogo Crystal Ball put the 2007 price at around $3000. It would take two more years of 21% compounded declines in price (which would be much lower than the rate from 2000-05) to achieve the $2500 level. It would only take 14% compounded declines to reach $3000 from here.

For the purposes of comparison, compounded 21% would yield <$1900 on the 42 HD and ~$1250 on the 42 ED. Compounded 14% would yield ~$2200 and <$1500.

Note that the "band sizes" are:

42 ED : $1250 - $1500
42 HD: $1900 - $2200
50 HD: $2500 - $3000

If the 25% decline rate were maintained (I believe the historical average is actually more like 26-27%), then we could see:

42 ED: $1125
42 HD: $1675
50 HD: $2250

Anyway, just some fun food for thought. The new prices are already pretty terrific by all reasonable standards except when comparing to RPTV prices. :)

[No_Towel_Lint]

50" HD plasma prices are now at about what 50" DLP sets sold for 2 years ago.

[valkyrie]

[QUOTE=No_Towel_Lint]I think these drops are in line with the rumor. The drop on the 42" was always rumored to be $500 and the 50" was rumored to be $1000....at least, that was my understanding of the rumor.[/QUOTE]

Just so everyone doesn't think I'm nuts...here was the original rumor post. It said the MSRP was dropping to $2500 on the px50U. As I said, the offiical drops seem to be about half that.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6006614&highlight=ced#post6006614

Still good prices, just not what I was hoping for when I cancelled my order this morning. :)

[RandyWalters]

[QUOTE=No_Towel_Lint]I think these drops are in line with the rumor. The drop on the 42" was always rumored to be $500 and the 50" was rumored to be $1000....at least, that was my understanding of the rumor.[/QUOTE]

No the originator of the rumor here said the 42PX50's MSRP was going to be reduced by a thousand dollars. I know because it really pissed me off that i could have saved a grand had i not bought one already. But now that i know it's only a $500 drop i'm only half as pissed :D

[No_Towel_Lint]

Even the $1000 drop on the 50" surprises me...you just don't see price drops that huge very often.

[frobi]

[QUOTE=No_Towel_Lint]Sorry about starting a new thread for this but I'm at work and don't have time to filter through other threads....

I have just received confirmation in print of the rumored price drop taking effect on August 28.

Panasonic TH42PX50U drops to $2999.99
Panasonic TH50PX50U drops to $3999.99
Panasonic TH42PD50U drops to $1999.99

These are MSRP drops, not sale prices or after-rebate prices.[/QUOTE]

I'm seeing these prices locally at most big retailers but I believe they are after a $300 rebate. Maybe the rebate becomes a price drop after August 28th.

[cmonsammy]

[QUOTE=No_Towel_Lint]Even the $1000 drop on the 50" surprises me...you just don't see price drops that huge very often.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, it is a huge single price drop...they must really be trying to boost demand quickly with the "gotta have plasma by football season" crowd. Any idea whether Panny is keeping any powder dry for a followup reduction closer to year-end? Somebody mentioned additional drops around Thanksgiving, but didn't mention any source for the info.

[rogo]

Alex's info from CED, was right except for the 42 HD. Note my comments above about it being a "worst buy". At $2500, it'd be a somewhat compelling upgrade to the ED model. At $2999, it's a 50% bump in price and makes little sense except for real close-up users.

Once the 50-inch is <$4000, if you are viewing this as a 5 year purchase, you are at about 50 cents per day from the 42 HD to the 50... Few would regret the larger purchase over time.

[galenkelch]

Just about ready to pull the trigger on a Panny TH-50PX500U. With diligence over the last several weeks, research shows these sets to be available in the $3500-$4000 price range depending on your comfort with a particular dealer or brick and mortar store (specifics intentionally left out to comply with posting rules). This reflects roughly a 27%-35% discount from MSRP. Is the reduced cost to vendors expected to retain this type of savings (Will -cost- decrease by $1000 as speculated or only drop by $500 at cost compressing store margins?)

In a nutshell, are the $3500 - $4000 prices that are out there in anticipation of the decrease or should we logically expect to see a new range of 27%-35% off of 4500 MSRP representing a new range of $2925 to $3285...

-OR- do we expect to simply see prices plummet to from 3.5k-4k down to 2.5-3k after the MSRP reduction?

Any informed thoughts?

[No_Towel_Lint]

cmonsammy-
I don't have any information regarding possible future MSRP drops on these models in addition to the Aug 28 reductions. If I had to guess I'd say that you'll likely see sales on these sets (i.e. % off the new MSRP) throughout the holiday season but I'd be surprised if the MSRP drops again before the models are discontinued and replaced with newer models. New models frequently come in at around the same price as the previous model left at, so if there's another MSRP drop then that will mean that Panasonic's new models will have to come in around that new price. We'll just have to see how aggressive Panasonic wants to be. However, keep in mind that you might see clearance prices when the current models go out but those are not MSRP drops; they are in-house price reductions to get rid of inventory. Given the popularity of these Panasonic sets there might not be much of a need to run clearance prices. In fact, there could very well be a gap between when these models sell out and when the new ones show up (unless Panasonic anticipates that and plans accordingly).

galenkelch-
Typically a MSRP hurts the vendor's bottom line and is minimized for the retailer. In other words, a $1000 MSRP drop will typically be accompanied by a dealer cost reduction that would allow the gross margin for the retailer to be roughly the same or slightly less than it was before. However, that's a percentage so let's do some math with FICTIONAL numbers. Suppose the current MSRP of $4999 for the 50" yields a 10% profit (I'm intentionally using numbers that everyone knows are lower than reality). At today's prices the retailer would make $500. Now suppose on the new MSRP of $3999 the retailer makes 9% then his profit would be $360. The point is, even if the profit margin is about the same there is still a big loss in profit dollars because of a lower selling price (10% of $5k is better than 10% of $4k). Say that the retailer wants to make at least $250 off each TV sold. With the old MSRP he could discount the TV 5% and still make that. With the new MSRP he can only discount it 2.75% to get that $250 minimum. So surely you will see deals below MSRP but they may not seem quite as fantastic as now.

[lipcrkr]

[QUOTE=No_Towel_Lint]Sorry about starting a new thread for this but I'm at work and don't have time to filter through other threads....

I have just received confirmation in print of the rumored price drop taking effect on August 28.

Panasonic TH42PX50U drops to $2999.99
Panasonic TH50PX50U drops to $3999.99
Panasonic TH42PD50U drops to $1999.99

These are MSRP drops, not sale prices or after-rebate prices.[/QUOTE]


At CC today the 42PX50U was $28-- from a retail of $34--. So, does this mean CC can sell these on sale at $24--? Still not enough of a drop because i really need a PC input. Damn you Panny.

[ClarkeBar]

I know...don't you hate the loss of features? Even this reduction will not spur me to trade in my new ED for HD if it means giving back features I wanted in the first place. Also, the lack of a useful Service Menu doesn't help. Oh well...just have to stick to the original plan...42" ED now...larger HD later.

[jtbell]

[QUOTE=No_Towel_Lint]
Panasonic TH42PX50U drops to $2999.99
Panasonic TH50PX50U drops to $3999.99
Panasonic TH42PD50U drops to $1999.99
[/QUOTE]

What about the TH-37PX50U (current MSRP $2999.99)? Surely it's not going to be at the same price as the TH-42PX50U. Or is it going to be discontinued? :eek:

[No_Towel_Lint]

lipcrkr-
In the interest of not breaking any forum rules, all I can say is that CC's sale prices are typically a certain percentage off MSRP across the board (just do the math to find that magic number). You will find similar sales in the future based on the new MSRP. Mail-in rebates are not common with TVs so I wouldn't factor that into your math.

[No_Towel_Lint]

You're right, I'm sure the 37" will drop in MSRP as well but that model is not specifically mentioned in the print I have so I don't know by how much.

Incidentally, the LG 50PX1D is also dropping in MSRP by $500 to $3999.99

[gordita]

[QUOTE=No_Towel_Lint]You're right, I'm sure the 37" will drop in MSRP as well but that model is not specifically mentioned in the print I have so I don't know by how much.

Incidentally, the LG 50PX1D is also dropping in MSRP by $500 to $3999.99[/QUOTE]

How about them hitachi's dropping in price?
the 42HDs52 sure looks tempting if they are forced to reduce their MSRP's also....

[goku4658]

oh man, not only do i not know WHO to buy from, but now i don't know WHEN to buy my 37" or 42" EDTV?

[NBP]

[QUOTE=goku4658]oh man, not only do i not know WHO to buy from, but now i don't know WHEN to buy my 37" or 42" EDTV?[/QUOTE]
As has been said ad nauseum, prices will continue to drop for the forseeable future so waiting until the time is right is a fool's game. Here's my suggestion to minimize the chance of buyer's remorse: wake up early on Sunday morning, brew a nice cup of coffee, sit down with the Sunday paper and see where everybody has priced these sets. By 10 or 11 am, you should be out the door en route to the store. You'll be watching your new set by 2 pm.

[amillians]

[QUOTE=RandyWalters]No the originator of the rumor here said the 42PX50's MSRP was going to be reduced by a thousand dollars. I know because it really pissed me off that i could have saved a grand had i not bought one already. But now that i know it's only a $500 drop i'm only half as pissed :D[/QUOTE]Randy, Panasonic *was* going to drop the MSRP on the TH-42PX50U by $1,000, but after I told them how upset you would be, they thought better of it and decided to go with a $500 drop. You're welcome. :)

[jcinzano]

[QUOTE=NBP]As has been said ad nauseum, prices will continue to drop for the forseeable future so waiting until the time is right is a fool's game. [/QUOTE]

it's been said ad nauseum and it's also wrong. it assumes prices have decreased at the same rate, which is not the case. prices decreased slowly for years, then quickly this past year, then extremely rapidly the past few -- and next few -- months. there are plenty of posters regretting pulling the trigger within the past few months as they're now having to watch these rapid price drops. if you want to save money, wait until november. if you want a plasma right now, go to CC and hope they'll still honor the refund and the price match.

ps. and, for crissakes, just my opinion, but don't buy an ED.

[Geo05]

[QUOTE=goku4658]oh man, not only do i not know WHO to buy from, but now i don't know WHEN to buy my 37" or 42" EDTV?[/QUOTE]

Or PX50U or PX500U... :)

Choices, choices, too many choices!

[RickGr4]

[QUOTE=NBP]Here's my suggestion to minimize the chance of buyer's remorse: wake up early on Sunday morning, brew a nice cup of coffee, sit down with the Sunday paper and see where everybody has priced these sets. By 10 or 11 am, you should be out the door en route to the store. You'll be watching your new set by 2 pm.[/QUOTE]


Actually, I would suggest you just go to the stores and forget about looking at the ads. Stores almost always advertise MAP prices (minimum advertised price) in newspaper ads. If the don't use MAP pricing in print ads, they run the risk of not being able to use co-op advertising dollars to pay for the ad. In store pricing will almost always be lower.............

[Mike53]

Monday Aug 22 - Samsung to lower retail prices on its LCD and Plasma TV's - The lead story in CE Daily. There's #2 in the mix. Where's LG? :D

[jrock65]

I dunno, I got my 50px50 from TVA back in May when the MSRP was $5000. I'm sure I'd be able to get the same set for about $700 less in September, but I don't regret it a smidgen.

Being able to enjoy my TV earlier rather than later was well worth it.

[jrock65]

Panasonic plasma MSRP history.

Panasonic consumer 50":

2003: MSRP=$9,000
2004: MSRP=$7,000
05/05: MSRP=$5,000
09/05: MSRP=$4,000

Panasonic consumer HD 42":

2003: MSRP=$7,000
2004: MSRP=$5,500
05/05: MSRP=$3,500
09/05: MSRP=$3,000

Panasonic consumer ED 42":

2003: MSRP=$4,500
2004: MSRP=$3,000
03/05: MSRP=$2,500
09/05: MSRP=$2,000

[rogo]

Well, now that this has happened, waiting will doubtless take on diminishing returns. The lower the price gets, the less it can still fall. While you've seen my numbers above and I do believe that there is room for prices to fall nearly by half from here, that's probably going to be about it.

Over time, you'll see the price decline curve as a pretty clear asymptote against some baseline. The baseline will be where it makes no sense to sell the stuff for less.

Mark

[jcinzano]

[QUOTE=rogo]Well, now that this has happened, waiting will doubtless take on diminishing returns. The lower the price gets, the less it can still fall. While you've seen my numbers above and I do believe that there is room for prices to fall nearly by half from here, that's probably going to be about it.

Over time, you'll see the price decline curve as a pretty clear asymptote against some baseline. The baseline will be where it makes no sense to sell the stuff for less.

Mark[/QUOTE]

i agree, you avs club member you. also, they're dropping to get into the same bracket as DLP and RP. once they get there then, well, why drop (much) more? you'll have cornered the big screen market. that said, i do think waiting until early november is probably smart -- as panny competitors react, retailers do sales, etc. at first, the new msrp will be the new sale price, i expect. still ... gonna be very tough for me to wait.

[mlandau]

They're probably dropping prices for the same reason they started off with a tremendous drop compared to last year's models, humongous glass production from their new facilities. They also decided to be a leader not a follower.

[bruce_bruce]

Visual Apex just lowered the price on the PWD428UK by $100. I don't know if this is THE price drop. It is still about $100 higher than the PWD427U. I'm not sure if the 7UY price was lower to try and clear them out for the 8UK. Hopefully the price will go a little lower next few weeks.

On another site, the consumer Pannasonic 42ED is only $200 more than the commercial. I was planning on getting the commercial but if the extras on the consumer (HDMI, stand, closed captioning, tuner, etc.) cost only $100-200 more, I might go that way. The commercial model still has the calibration advantage.

This sure is a fun time!

Bruce

[Geo05]

[QUOTE=rogo]Well, now that this has happened, waiting will doubtless take on diminishing returns. The lower the price gets, the less it can still fall...

Mark[/QUOTE]

True. But the technology, however, is improving rapidly with more room for significant change. Even if the models that cost $7000 3 or 4 years ago were available today at half that cost, no one would touch 'em with a ten-foot plole... :)

[GTBuzz]

I just recently decided to buy a plasma and am pretty sure that I am getting a 50PX500U. Waiting for these prices to fall is like watching paint dry. I would like to see the lowered prices everywhere by Monday. If it were still a few months away, then I would go ahead and buy. I hope this waiting for the promised drop is worth it.

[cmonsammy]

[QUOTE=GTBuzz]I just recently decided to buy a plasma and am pretty sure that I am getting a 50PX500U. Waiting for these prices to fall is like watching paint dry. I would like to see the lowered prices everywhere by Monday. If it were still a few months away, then I would go ahead and buy. I hope this waiting for the promised drop is worth it.[/QUOTE]

It provides another reason to go with a store with a 30-day price match rather than just to the low-cost provider.

BTW, I saw Fry's charge $200 over MSRP for several weeks after Panasonic lowered their DLP RPTV MSRP last year...I don't assume everyone will fall in line immediately with next week's reduction.

[inky blacks]

Hey guys, go to StreetPrices.Com and paste in Panasonic TH-50PX50U and push the button!

Quite a nice surprise!

IB

[GTBuzz]

[QUOTE=cmonsammy]It provides another reason to go with a store with a 30-day price match rather than just to the low-cost provider.

BTW, I saw Fry's charge $200 over MSRP for several weeks after Panasonic lowered their DLP RPTV MSRP last year...I don't assume everyone will fall in line immediately with next week's reduction.[/QUOTE]


I am looking at buying from the internet and their policies say they don't refund for price drops. So that is why I am waiting for next week. The only place around Seattle that I have seen with the 500U is Magnolia and they are WAY HIGH :eek: . I know you can bargain with them, but I doubt they will come anywhere close to the internet. I just need to find a good place to buy from.

I would like to order from VA since they are close by and I can go pick it up, but they only offer Commercial. Maybe I will still consider the 7UY, except the consumer ones are not that much higher and you get a stand and multiple inputs already.

[GTBuzz]

[QUOTE=inky blacks]Hey guys, go to StreetPrices.Com and paste in Panasonic TH-50PX50U and push the button!

Quite a nice surprise!

IB[/QUOTE]


Go HERE (http://www.resellerratings.com/seller3471.html) to see that dealers rating :eek: . I feel sorry for those people.

[jcinzano]

[QUOTE=inky blacks]Hey guys, go to StreetPrices.Com and paste in Panasonic TH-50PX50U and push the button!

Quite a nice surprise!

IB[/QUOTE]


gettin' there! ... 3K shipped will be my magic button ....

you know, one person said watching this was like watching paint dry. i must be weird, i find it oddly fun.

[jcinzano]

[QUOTE=GTBuzz]Go HERE (http://www.resellerratings.com/seller3471.html) to see that dealers rating :eek: . I feel sorry for those people.[/QUOTE]

well, yeah, you don't order from the bottom feeders, we AVS sophisticates know that much. but it's nice to see the a regular vendor base price breaking new ground

j

ps. though, holy crap is that a bad rating!

[GTBuzz]

[QUOTE=jcinzano]well, yeah, you don't order from the bottom feeders, we AVS sophisticates know that much. but it's nice to see the a regular vendor base price breaking new ground

j

ps. though, holy crap is that a bad rating![/QUOTE]

Yea, that company is below bottom feeder. I don't consider their price as a "regular vendor breaking new ground" :D

[inky blacks]

[QUOTE=GTBuzz]Go HERE (http://www.resellerratings.com/seller3471.html) to see that dealers rating :eek: . I feel sorry for those people.[/QUOTE]

That is a terrible review. Thanks for the link.

But, it is early. Wait a couple of weeks and you will see big drops in prices even in the good stores. Even today one store with a good rating was selling the same display for just a few hundred bucks more. The official price drop date is yet to come, August 28th, right?

IB

[rpgibbs]

Went out browsing this evening for a new 50" Panasonc plasma (TH50PX50U) and asked about the rumored new msrp prices for Aug, 28. They were confirmed at several stores. I checked the website of an appliance dealer here in Indianapolis when we got home and indeed their website already had the new MSRP listed. Will certainly check the online deals on sunday and if they have also been lowered then will pull the trigger.

[tp4ever84]

Philips is also dropping prices on the 28th I believe. I can get 10% off most philips tv until the 28th so I think they will also drop their prices too.

[gordita]

any estimate on how much would be the philips drop be?
That 42pf9630A sure looks yummy........

[Panasonic Plasma]

Today, Panasonic announced new models and pricing for Professional Series plasma displays:

TH-37PWD8UK = $1,895
TH-42PWD8UK = $2,095
New - TH-37PHD8UK = $2,595
New - TH-42PHD8UK = $2,995
New - TH-50PHD8UK = $3,995

New 42" and 50" HD models are available now. 37" HD model will be available in September.

New models will be posted on the Panasonic web site next week.

[Ninjahedge]

Watching the prices drop is like buying computer equipment except that these guys have more than one critical plunge before leveling out.

Most people here are waiting for the $500 or $1000 drop so they can buy it right afterward and HOPEFULLY not have another 3 weeks after they buy it (or 2 days after their price guarantee runs out).

I am doing that, waiting for the cliff before the slow downward slope.


And yes, that one place has a HORRIBLE consumer rating. But what do those guys know, they probably have no idea how hard it is to have a website running from the back of a van! ;)

[theueck]

Check out one of our sponsers, Plasma Concepts.

I've visited their shop to view the 7UK, good guys.

[jcinzano]

beautiful! perfect.... i'm there


guess visual apex hasn't heard yet

[poster]

I am looking at the new TH-42PHD8UK. Hopefully it can be had for cheaper from other sites. Do you guys think they fixed the problems from the 7 series with the changing black level(I think that was the problem, cant remember)?

[madshi]

Very nice!!

Now just please add the information for the 1080p 65" model... :D

[stripe]

[QUOTE=Panasonic Plasma]Today, Panasonic announced new models and pricing for Professional Series plasma displays:
[/QUOTE]

Was announced where? Do you have a link?

Thanks.

[rpgibbs]

How do the TH50PX50U and the new Commercial Model TH50PHD8UK differ? Thanks

[madshi]

Now compare that to the current MSRPs:

http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ModelList?storeId=11201&catalogId=13051&catGroupId=14624

TH-42PHD7UY = $4,795.00
TH-50PHD7UY = $6,495.00

:eek:

[afiggatt]

Given the normal 30% to 35% price discount from list for the on-line dealers, we should see the gen 8 50" commercial model be available soon for comfortably under $3K. Talk about falling prices! However, I see that Panasonic is now selling the equivalent commercial and base consumer models for the same price. Wonder if we will see an obvious shift here to more people getting the consumer models because of the ATSC tuner, more inputs rather than the commercial models.

[Mondo1287]

The prices are droping on the 8uk commercial models, look around online at reputable dealers like visual apex.

[jagga]

oh yea.. the 8uk model at VA looks appealing!!

[Calypse]

Hey GTBuzz, there is a place in Kirkland called Tiger Deal and when I called the guy he ahd good prices, lower then Video Only. I don't think he carries a stock but sounds like he does have a showroom. His site says 3-7 days to get anything in. tigerdeal is his website. He seemed to be a videophile kind of guy, dismissing all the contrast 4000-1 type stuff as hype ect.. Might be worth a try after the price drop if you want to buy from an authorized dealer local.

[Jagsman]

[QUOTE=jagga]oh yea.. the 8uk model at VA looks appealing!![/QUOTE]

That price is incredible. I have been holding out, but it appears the time may be near.

[wojtek]

on the 50" commercial Panny MSRP dropped $2,500, but the street price dropped only a hundred bucks....

:(

[manufanatic]

[QUOTE=jagga]oh yea.. the 8uk model at VA looks appealing!![/QUOTE]


Plasma concepts 50 inch is :eek:

[MichaelG]

the 50" commercial Panny MSRP dropped $2,500, but the street price dropped only a hundred bucks....

I noticed that too. I expect that the new MSRP in effect this Sunday will have no change in that, but it's still a great price.

[drz400]

If I buy the 50HD at current this price with the $300 rebate.....can I then get the price match difference drop next week AND keep my pending rebate?? $500 - $250 CC discount??

[Steve L]

[QUOTE=afiggatt]Given the normal 30% to 35% price discount from list for the on-line dealers, we should see the gen 8 50" commercial model be available soon for comfortably under $3K. Talk about falling prices![/QUOTE]

I'm hopeful you're right, but not necessarily true. Panasonic may be cutting dealer margins as well as MSRP.

/steve

[rogo]

I'm sure margins were trimmed here along with MSRPs. There has been hand wringing for a couple of years about retailer margins and flat panels and the surest way to handle that as a mfr. is to announce a new retail price, tell the dealers their new price, and simply make the margin cut real.

It's not like the upstarts (Syntax, Vizio, et al.) are providing bigger margins. If anything, those margins are smaller still.

[goku4658]

woot! I didn't think they were releasing a 37" HD model!

edit: I wonder how much that would cost?

[goku4658]

I didn't think CC price matched online vendors? is this true?

[jagga]

Look at VisualApex.. they have all prices..

http://www.visualapex.com/plasma/plasmamfr.asp?MFR=Panasonic

[Calypse]

drz400, a salesman in the store actually offered this to me. To buy the 42px50u at 3199, take the $300 rebate then when the price drops come back for a 30 day price adjustment. The only thing he didnt clarify was whether the price match will include the rebate, so it will only be like $200 more off. Of course he didnt know if the price would be as low as $500 less either since $3199 is lower then msrp. Because of the variables its a bit of a risk though so I didn't do it. If everything went as good as you could hope bottem line price might be real nice, if not it might not be so hot.

[goku4658]

thanks, jagga...yeah va musta just updated their inventory cuz that wasn't up there alil bit ago

[jagga]

i'm so excited today.. i think the 42pwd8uk might me mine :)

[Franchot]

Great prices!

Any "guesstimates" on what the current Panny 65 inch (which "should" also drop in price) and the upcoming TH-65PHD8UK will be?

(Manufacturer's prices versus what some sites will sell them for?)

[jcinzano]

jeez people, just wait until sunday rather than going through contortions trying to get a tv today and pay tomorrow's prices. all this stuff, on this thread and others, about hand wringing over the CC 30 day price match is just silly -- prices have been astronomical for years, but all ya gotta do is wait a freakin' week

[tubesguy]

Of course! Bought a 7UY just a few weeks ago. Old model, old list price. Now the 8UK can be had for $225 cheaper.

Anyone want any stock or bond tips? :-( - Pat

[drz400]

JC, You miss the point, re-read the post. Its about getting the price match (MSRP less $500 less $250 CC discount) AND the $300 rebate which is now offered. I was at CC during luch and they said they WILL do it since the manufacture is giving the $300 rebate. My CC will price match the $500 change in price less their (CC's) current $250 discount. Bottom line is you save $250. Now I gotta call Delaware CC to see if they will do it. There is no sales tax in Del so I can save another $180 by driving 40 minutes. Minor contortions to save $430 bucks!

[jcinzano]

you're right, i did miss the point.

[Steve L]

[QUOTE=Franchot]Great prices!

Any "guesstimates" on what the current Panny 65 inch (which "should" also drop in price) and the upcoming TH-65PHD8UK will be?

(Manufacturer's prices versus what some sites will sell them for?)[/QUOTE]

Looks like they're charging about $5 per HD square inch, give or take. That should put the current 65" at about $6995. The rumored price in Japan of the 1920x1080p 65" is 1,000,000 yen, or about $9100 US at current exchange rates.

/steve

[RickGr4]

I just received a new price sheet from a distributor dated this week. No mention of prices changes on the Panny commercial sets. Obviously the prices could still change............

[PerryU]

Anybody know what the MSRP was on the 42PWD7UY? ...i.e. how big a drop in MSRP was this for that model?

Thanks... Perry.

[Steve L]

[QUOTE=PerryU]Anybody know what the MSRP was on the 42PWD7UY? ...i.e. how big a drop in MSRP was this for that model?

Thanks... Perry.[/QUOTE]

It's consumer counterpart, the 42PD50, was $2495 MSRP.

/steve

[goku4658]

[QUOTE=drz400]JC, You miss the point, re-read the post. Its about getting the price match (MSRP less $500 less $250 CC discount) AND the $300 rebate which is now offered. I was at CC during luch and they said they WILL do it since the manufacture is giving the $300 rebate. My CC will price match the $500 change in price less their (CC's) current $250 discount. Bottom line is you save $250. Now I gotta call Delaware CC to see if they will do it. There is no sales tax in Del so I can save another $180 by driving 40 minutes. Minor contortions to save $430 bucks![/QUOTE]

I still don't get it but i'm trying. You're gonna buy a tv from CC at their current price with the $300 rebate. And then hope the price drop from Panasonic comes into effect of CC's prices within 30 days to get them to price match the new lower price?

the lesson, as always, I'm an idiot.

[drz400]

Yes, less their current $300 discount. End result is after 5-6 weeks when I get the rebate the 42HD set will cost $3,195 - $200 - $300 = $2,695.00 verus $2995 - what ever discount CC may have after the 28th.

If I buy in Delaware I can save sales tax on $3,195 or $191.70 This just means I have to take the 40 minute drive twice........once to get the set and once next week for the price match.

[drz400]

Damn, I even confused myself that time! Savings will be price match - CC current discount + rebate or (500-300)+300=500 whew! Actually, I just checked SEARS (2 blocks from CC here) I could do it ALL today as Sears has the 50HD on sale for $2,995! They price match AND I turn in the rebate! End result is still the $300 rebate savings.

[jackie C]

was at cc last night, I was offered the 42hd for 2799 plus the 300 rebate and was told the rebate would not count for the price drop.

[rpgibbs]

Which Panasonic 50" model are you referring to at $2995 (at Sears)?

[BayAreaFan]

[QUOTE=drz400] I could do it ALL today as Sears has the 50HD on sale for $2,995! .[/QUOTE]

Whoah, which Sears is this??? And what TV?

[Cleveland Plasma]

[QUOTE=RickGr4]I just received a new price sheet from a distributor dated this week. No mention of prices changes on the Panny commercial sets. Obviously the prices could still change............[/QUOTE]

Wait untill the 42 and 50 PHD8UK come out here real shortlly(within weeks). Your mouth will drop!!! All I can say is amazing.

[wojtek]

[QUOTE=Cleveland Plasma]Wait untill the 42 and 50 PHD8UK come out here real shortlly(within weeks). Your mouth will drop!!! All I can say is amazing.[/QUOTE]

Price, PQ, or both?

[TimV]

Agreed. What are you referring to, Chris?

We've already seen a nice price drop at Plasma Concepts for the HD508UK.

[Cleveland Plasma]

Both. Hard to belive. We are all down to days on price drops and the release of the new Panasonic Commercial line. The impact is and will be quite strong on the market here as this happens. I have gotten a taste of the Consumer line price drops also and I am at a loss for words on what prices we will be down to.

Then of course all the other big names are still going to want to sell screens so they will follow suite. If a person was just a little shy as far as funds go and was waitning for something big to happen....its coming....

(realize on some units the change has happened, the PHD8UK are not in anyones hands at this point so who can give you there best price? The consumer line has not dropped yet. We all have to wait.)

[jagga]

details..we want more details!

as of now; the price drop on the TH42PWD8UK at VisualApex is pretty nicely done..

[jackie C]

Does all this plasma price dropping have anything to do with the new sony A10s?

[jagga]

[QUOTE=Cleveland Plasma]Wait untill the 42 and 50 PHD8UK come out here real shortlly(within weeks). Your mouth will drop!!! All I can say is amazing.[/QUOTE]


They are already out at VisualApex.

[Mondo1287]

Wow the 42" 8uk at visual apex dropped even more since I looked this morning. Its now cheaper than the 37" was yesterday!

[Redmond_Horn]

I think its been mentioned but the price of the 50PHD8UK at Plasma Concepts (and I am sure others soon will match) is somwhere I didn't think would happen this year. I love seeing the first digit on the price for a brand name 50" plasma is now < 3, now if only it would get to < 2 :)

[jcinzano]

under 3K is going to be the norm for the 50, i bet. right now we're looking at the very first units hitting the street. the prices look amazing, but they still got streach in them.

funny thing: whether to buy the 42 or 50 is still not any easier. i mean, they're still separated by $1000 which is a helluva difference

[wctug]

Is there any news on MSRP price drops on the TH-42px500U and 50px500U?

[wojtek]

[QUOTE=Cleveland Plasma]Both. Hard to belive. [/QUOTE]

Have you seen the PQ of TH-50PHD8UK?

Personally, while quite excited about the dramatic price drops, I am more excited every time Picture Quality improves.

[johnbia]

I was ready to order a 50" 8uk but now with the 50" SXRD so close to being released I think I'll wait. Is anyone in the same boat and which way are u leaning and why. I know no one has seen the SXRD 50" but the technology looks very promising to me. I think it might cost a few hundred more but it might be worth it.
Any thoughts or advice?

[jackie C]

how does the pq compare to the 42hd?

[wojtek]

[QUOTE=johnbia]I was ready to order a 50" 8uk but now with the 50" SXRD so close to being released I think I'll wait. Is anyone in the same boat and which way are u leaning and why. I know no one has seen the SXRD 50" but the technology looks very promising to me. I think it might cost a few hundred more but it might be worth it.
Any thoughts or advice?[/QUOTE]


I think that should be a new thread.

PS. I almost bought the 50" SXRD (had a great deal on it, too).

But I backed off, realizing that I am more of a Direct View guy (ie I don't like the Rear-Projected look as much as plasma or CRT).

Did I say this should be a separate thread? :)

[galenkelch]

I am likely going to go the internet option, but may explore the brick and mortar option as well if prices truely drop as anticipated. Does anyone know well known B&M dealers that are carrying the Panasonic TH-50PX500U? I see a number of them that carry the 50u (Walmart and Sears included), but not the 500u - or at least they are not listed on their websites... I live in Southeastern Ohio so my store options are limited - no high end boutiques avail here.

Galen.

[No_Towel_Lint]

OK, I see there are a few questions about CC so let me address them best I can...

CC's low price guarantee does technically take your after-rebate price into account. In other words, if your before-rebate price was $7 but your AFTER-rebate price was $5 (intentionally using fake nnumbers) and MSRP drops to $4, then you will get $1.10 (110% of the difference) back...not $3.30. Yes, sometimes rebates are overlooked in these situations on accident because rebates are not common at CC in TVs. I just wanted to make sure you don't make your purchase thinking your low price guarantee refund will definately ignore the rebate because technically it shouldn't.

CC's low price guarantee does not include online sites unless they are sites for local B&M stores (i.e. BB.com). In other words, you can't go in and expect them to price match crutchfield.com or something.

As for what you will see on Sunday....well, obviously I shouldn't give out specifics but suffice it to say that the Panasonic plasmas are on the front page of this coming Sunday's ad. Also, CC frequently offers aggressive deals on TVs in printed ads. This coming week will be no exception. Many people who have been waiting to pull the trigger on the 50PX50U in a B&M store will find next week to be a tempting week in which to do so.

Someone said that the in-store prices are almost always lower than the ad price. This is not true, at least not for CC. Ads are created and printed weeks in advance. CC shops the competition and does their best to ensure that they are at or below the best price in the retail market for that week. Sometimes there are oversights of course which is why customers are encouraged to this bring this to CC's attention when they're shopping. You may think that's not true because they then lose margin on the price reduction but think about it, they're going to go and reduce that price after you tell bring a competitive price to their attention. If this hadn't been done, a customer who's not up for pointing it out later might just leave the store and go where they saw the price lower so it's to CC's advantage to welcome information regarding lower prices that they missed when shopping the competitors. At any rate, my point is, CC's tagged prices on the floor will be the same as the ad price unless they become aware of a lower price in the market after the ad was printed. This is when you will find a discrepancy but is more the exception than the rule.

[HDBG]

so, what's the word on the 500Us?

is there any chance i could get one anywhere near the 42px50u MSRP of $3199 MSRP minus the typical CC sale price!?

it does seems that internet is the only option for most people looking for a 500u at a good price.

[HDBG]

[QUOTE=drz400]Yes, less their current $300 discount. End result is after 5-6 weeks when I get the rebate the 42HD set will cost $3,195 - $200 - $300 = $2,695.00 verus $2995 - what ever discount CC may have after the 28th.[/QUOTE]this doesnt make much sence. i think everyone will be paying the same no matter what. i dont think they are price matching the msrp difference. they are price matching the price they offer. ...500(drop) less than the 3195 it is right now is your 2695...and 2895-200(diff) (500(drop)-300(rebate)) is still your 2695.

you buy now, you buy later you are going to ge the same price...unless you run into a real dumb CC customer service representative.

btw, CC is offering 10% gift cards (which has no impact on your future price matching) on purchases when you call the website number and order. also, i know all the CC stores in my area are sold out of the 42px50u and so is sears. CC has none of them in their warehouse either.

[Panasonic Plasma]

The TH-42PWD7UY is $2,795. The new TH-42PWD8UK is $2,095.

[No_Towel_Lint]

The 42PX50U is very difficult to keep in stock. CC is Panasonic's #1 account and even with that fact they still struggle to get enough inventory for what they sell. The inventory situation is much better on the 50".

[nightlaw]

[QUOTE=johnbia]I was ready to order a 50" 8uk but now with the 50" SXRD so close to being released I think I'll wait. Is anyone in the same boat and which way are u leaning and why. I know no one has seen the SXRD 50" but the technology looks very promising to me. I think it might cost a few hundred more but it might be worth it.
Any thoughts or advice?[/QUOTE]

Waiting to see how the SXRD is myself, but it sounds promising. Also the new Pioneer sounds promising.
Does anyone know if Panasonic is releasing a new generation plasma anytime soon? So many choices already!

[goku4658]

so as far as pulling the trigger and making a purchase, do ppl think the time would be next week or early november?

[drz400]

Who does the rebate check come from, CC or Panny or ?? Towel dude do you know? At my CC they offered to return any change in the CC offered price between now and next 30 days independent of the rebate AS long as my receipt was dated before 8/28.

[tinman1412]

Hi All,

I'd like to get your opinion on the recent price drops. Just yesterday, I saw Visual Apex drop like $100 on the 42 8UK. Is it a good idea to wait or buy now. Do you think they will also drop the price on the 50 8UK also?. I'm ready to buy, not sure if I should wait a few more days or possibly a week. Do yal think the price will drop even more

[jcinzano]

the 50 msrp dropped 1000K. the street price only dropped a few hundred. that should tell you something.

[tinman1412]

OK, I'm not familiar with the street price from the sponsors and how they drop in comparison with the consumer models at the local stores. I'm guessing from your comments that the price on the comercial 8UK from VA will drop even more?. Thanks

[jcinzano]

correction, more than 1000.

VA has the 507uy msrp listed as 6,495, though i doubt it was that high at the end of its run. the point is, you're seeing "new model" prices for the 8uk. the average on pricegrabber is only about $200 or so less than what it was for the 7 series last week, despite the huge msrp drop. vendors are not passing along the savings to the customer -- yet.

my bet is you'll see some kind of a drop as early as next week. once the new price drop goes into effect at the big chains like CC and BB, online retailers will have to respond.

[Ferris409]

Why was the 42" HD7UY taken off the VA site? Are they about to unveil the HD 8UK?

[valkyrie]

[QUOTE=Ferris409]Why was the 42" HD7UY taken off the VA site? Are they about to unveil the HD 8UK?[/QUOTE]

They already did, yesterday.

[Ferris409]

Thanks -- I didn't see anything about it on the Panasonic site. Do you have a link?

[jcinzano]

VA dropped the price on their 50 to <3K

i know i just wrote it would happen soon but ... didn't think that meant "within the hour"!

[valkyrie]

[QUOTE=Ferris409]Thanks -- I didn't see anything about it on the Panasonic site. Do you have a link?[/QUOTE]

The HD's are listed specifically on Panny's site yet, but I'm sure they will be soon. The specs for the sets are in the manuals for the other 8UK's, though.

Panny Commercial Plasmas (http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ModelList?storeId=11201&catalogId=13051&catGroupId=14624)

[tinman1412]

This is really cool. The prices dropped on the 42" yesterday. Now the 50" dropped $300 today. I'm gonna wait a week or so, by then it should be free. :D

[jcinzano]

[QUOTE=tinman1412]This is really cool. The prices dropped on the 42" yesterday. Now the 50" dropped $300 today. I'm gonna wait a week or so, by then it should be free. :D[/QUOTE]

LOL ... yeah, no kidding, huh?

Seriously, in two weeks things should be interesting, once CC and BB are selling based on the new MSRPs, and there's 30 online vendors with the new UK sets on pricegrabber.... under 3K for the 50 will not be unusual...

still, when i buy, i'm leaning toward VA based on all the good comments here. either them or TVA, since they're local, but i don't like paying tax...

j

ps. notice, btw, there's been a curious silence from the mod, endulging us much more than usual during all the excitement over the price drops w/r/t pointing out deals here and there

[PerryU]

Thanks, PP. So about a 25% drop. Just trying to get a sense of what the new Canadian MSRP might be. (You wouldn't happen to have access to that info, would you??)

Cheers... Perry.

[CrocD]

Holy cow! Check out Visual Apex's price on the 50phd8uk. It's just below a nice round number that divisible by 1000. It's $400 less than the 7uy was a few days ago!

I bought my 50phd7uy from VA 10 months ago for $1700 more than the current price. That's a 36% drop in only 10 months! I have a buddy who is about to take the plasma plunge -- lucky he did not buy last week.

[Calypse]

It looks like some dealers are already lowering prices. I went to a dealer here in seattle, and talked them down to $2399 on a th-42px50u, without really any problem at all. This sounded like about what prices will be after drop so I went ahead and got it 12 months no interest or payments. After doing some research this looked like approximately what the street price will be after the price drop. PM me if you want dealer in Seattle area, I dunno about forum rules ect.. Its a major authorized dealer too btw, not a sketchy one.

[drz400]

Thats a great price. Less then what I would expect. My CC here changed their mind on the rebate saving that it was a CC rebate and not a Panny rebate so I could not get the rebate AND the 30 day price match. I hate these places sometimes. Talk to 4 people and get 4 answers! None right.

[Darkman03]

Hey... I wanted to go ahead and get a 50" plasma Tv. Price i'm not worried about. What im mostly looking for more than anything is PICTURE QUALITY. Out of these 3 sets can you list them in order of picture quality and what one you reccomend? Also then can you tell me which one by overall performance (connections+Picture)? Thanks in advance guys!!! :) :D

[Qooop]

Is it possible there is still a price drop coming Sunday or have we seen the fall and these prices will be with us at least another month or two?

[Qooop]

[QUOTE=Calypse]It looks like some dealers are already lowering prices. I went to a dealer here in seattle, and talked them down to $2399 on a th-42px50u, without really any problem at all. This sounded like about what prices will be after drop so I went ahead and got it 12 months no interest or payments. After doing some research this looked like approximately what the street price will be after the price drop. PM me if you want dealer in Seattle area, I dunno about forum rules ect.. Its a major authorized dealer too btw, not a sketchy one.[/QUOTE]


Exept that by the time you start making payments the price could be down low enough to make you cry.

[AdilM]

They have changed their policy then. In the past they did not include the rebate price in the pricematch policy and this had been decided upon by the corporate side.
Frankly, Circuit City is not one of the first places I would make this purchase if I was a customer.

[jcinzano]

[QUOTE=Qooop]Is it possible there is still a price drop coming Sunday or have we seen the fall and these prices will be with us at least another month or two?[/QUOTE]


Sort of. The MSRP drop for UKs is in effect. it's just a matter how much dealers actually charge. as i posted on another thread, next week we'll see the new pricing really hit the B&Ms -- in advertising, etc. and we'll see the 8UKs hitting other dealers (right now there's only a handful who have it). so i predict the prices will fall a little more next week once you have a couple dozen online dealers competiting and the B&Ms advertising their new prices for the consumer models. right now, we;re seeing "out of the gate prices." remember, the msrp dropped more than $1000 .... the online prices have not .... yet....

[timmernator]

Is the price for the TH-42PWD8UK w/table stand for forum members at Visual Apex for real?!?!? :eek: :eek:

That's less than I paid for my KD-34XS955 on sale last fall!

I must be dreaming... how do I convince my wife I need this? :p

Ooops - just realized this is ED, not HD - still...

[Calypse]

I plan on paying it off within 6 months its just nice to not have to make a payment if ya don't want to. Besides the longer you wait of course stuff is going to be cheaper, but you wont have a set either.

[dadiesel5]

I have been looking at the th-42px50u for a while and I was going to pull the trigger at Drplasma.com for $2,269.99 plus shipping, but read this thread and changed my mind. Will cc match that price or will they come down to that price if I bring it to their attention? This is my 1st plasma, I actually ordered my wall mount today so I need to be buying a plasma real soon.

Any suggestions??

[PerryU]

Calypse and dadiesel5, please read the rules (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=488095) before you post; we don't want the mods to have to shut down the thread.

Thanks.

[dadiesel5]

sorry, for oversight just got pumped up about the pricedrop news.

later good thread.

[galenkelch]

Still hopeing someone will shed light on B&M places to get the 500u...

Galen.

[cmonsammy]

[QUOTE=galenkelch]Still hopeing someone will shed light on B&M places to get the 500u...

Galen.[/QUOTE]

A price comparison website shows that Good Guys, Tweeter and J&R all carry the 500 series. There were none on display at Tweeter near Houston when I checked a few weeks ago, but it was listed in their system.

[madshi]

Does anybody know whether/when/by how much this price drop will be transported to us Europeans?

[goku4658]

[QUOTE=jcinzano] right now, we;re seeing "out of the gate prices." remember, the msrp dropped more than $1000 .... the online prices have not .... yet....[/QUOTE]

VA's prices have definitely dropped. You think they'd drop even more due to online competitors dropping their prices too?

[jcinzano]

Yes. VA likes to stay competitive. Don't think prices have bottomed out -- the TV has only been out for four days!

ps. for example, plasmatv4less has them even cheaper than VA...

[goku4658]

plasmatv4less

[jagga]

Damn.. VA dropped prices again!

[cheridave]

Threads Merged!

MSRP Pricing Only, No Coupon, Discounts, Rebate, Sales, Etc. Talk!

Dave

[sergei]

here is the link to PC World news [url]http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,122310,tk,dn082505X,00.asp

[cheridave]

Threads Merged!

Dave

[lynesjc]

Amazing how quickly these are coming down. The 50" price is very significant. It's a milestone of sorts for the 50" to be down under that #.

Will we see 42" under $1k by Christmas?

[Ninjahedge]

Side question:

Is the UK the "UK" version of the UY, or it is a genuinely different sell altogether?

I remember reading in here somewhere about the different standards, but I do not remember anyone saying anything about an 8UY coming out....

And the price drops are great, but it is so hard not to quote any. I guess that is the benefit/curse of having sponsors in the industry... ;)

[paulluse]

My plunge point for the px500u is $2500 street price... would I be crazy to think it would get this low before Christmas?

[PerryU]

The 8UK replaced the UY. The K now stands for blacK; in europe there's also a silver 8US version... which (ironically enough) isn't available in the U.S.

[jcinzano]

[QUOTE=PerryU]The 8UK replaced the UY. The K now stands for blacK; in europe there's also a silver 8US version... which (ironically enough) isn't available in the U.S.[/QUOTE]

only a huge multinational corporation could have logic so perfectly confusing

[valkyrie]

[QUOTE=PerryU]The 8UK replaced the UY. The K now stands for blacK; in europe there's also a silver 8US version... which (ironically enough) isn't available in the U.S.[/QUOTE]

Maybe it should be 8DG for Dark Grey. ;)

[jagga]

[QUOTE=jagga]Damn.. VA dropped prices again![/QUOTE]


LOL!! VA dropped prices again.. oh my.. where is the bottom??

[3dishes]

OK so maybe a bit off topic, but do you think other manufacturers will respond to this. Looking at a Pioneer 5050HD, but at these prices Panny hard to ignore.

[cmonsammy]

[QUOTE=paulluse]My plunge point for the px500u is $2500 street price... would I be crazy to think it would get this low before Christmas?[/QUOTE]

I assume you mean for the 50" since the 42" it's already there at low-cost providers. The 50" depends what the spread between it and the px50u turns out to be ($150-300?), and whether the predicted followup MSRP drop around Thanksgiving takes place.

My guess is that it'll be below $2800, but not $2500. Note the word, "guess." BTW, I'm referring to the price at bottom feeder websites, not necessarily any place I'd want to buy from. :confused:

[cmonsammy]

[QUOTE=3dishes]OK so maybe a bit off topic, but do you think other manufacturers will respond to this. Looking at a Pioneer 5050HD, but at these prices Panny hard to ignore.[/QUOTE]

How can they not? They have to play along to some degree. There are some wealthy purists who'd pay thousands more for a Pioneer over a Panasonic, but they'd lose the market share battle big time.

We'll know in a month or so, when Panny's prices stabilize at the lower level and Pioneer releases the 5060HD. If I were you I'd wait until then (I am), both to see the price effect and because the early reports on the next gen Pioneers are really positive.

[3dishes]

Yah I guess I should have asked how long to respond. The car industry, airline industry usually responds very quickly. Seeing the VA pricing for the 8UK got me excited. This is kind of a prime time for purchases with baseball playoffs and the NFL about to embark....don't lose those sales Mr Pioneer.

[wctug]

Sorry for asking this question for a second time, however I had no response to the question: will the px500u series see the same drop in price, or, do we not know what will happen to the 500U series.

[LesMoss]

An ad in the LA Times today had the px50 at $4000 and the px500 at $4500. Both at MSRP, I think.

[Gabe63]

Last Friday I was quoted under $$$$ for the consumer Pany 50, less than $$$$ hd, less than $$$$ ed at Video Only an authorized store front in CA. Only down side was the 50 was a 3 week backorder, all others in stock/ new full warranty. I don't pay much attention to the threads so this may be old news.

[MSRP ONLY]

[alchymie]

[QUOTE=LesMoss]An ad in the LA Times today had the px50 at $4000 and the px500 at $4500. Both at MSRP, I think.[/QUOTE]


It looks like the TH-50PX500U MSRP is dropping $1K. However the wholesale price may or may not. So far I haven't seen that large of a price drop with the mail-order discounters.

[lipcrkr]

[QUOTE=alchymie]It looks like the PX500U MSRP is dropping $1K. However the wholesale price may or may not. So far I haven't seen that large of a price drop with the mail-order discounters.[/QUOTE]

Would it be realistic to see this set at $25-- by the end of September? The 42" PHD8UK is under that now at most places.

[rod_video]

[QUOTE=cmonsammy]I assume you mean for the 50" since the 42" it's already there at low-cost providers. The 50" depends what the spread between it and the px50u turns out to be ($150-300?), and whether the predicted followup MSRP drop around Thanksgiving takes place.

My guess is that it'll be below $2800, but not $2500. Note the word, "guess." BTW, I'm referring to the price at bottom feeder websites, not necessarily any place I'd want to buy from. :confused:[/QUOTE]

(btw, I'm also leaning towards the (42)PX500U )

cmonsammy, the 'predicted follow up' price drop rumor you mention, is it a second round for the px50u and the first for the px500u, or is it the second for both px50u and px500u?
I guess what I'm trying to figure out is if tomorrow 08/28's price drop is for both the px50 and px500 (which it seems to be, from the posts later).

[essay]

Next weeks flyer from local B&M stores have both the 50" panny's reflecting the 1K drop on the MSRP and 500 on the 42" ED and HD sets.

[Yoda1]

I think the price drop is beginning.

Check out the 37" at CC.

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[jcinzano]

update....

there are now 4 places offerring the 50 for <3K, yesterday there was only one...

has added the 42, and VA is actually the most expensive of the bunch at the moment (though not by much)

[rpgibbs]

Where are you looking to see the 4 places <3K? Thanks

[cheridave]

[QUOTE=rpgibbs]Where are you looking to see the 4 places <3K? Thanks[/QUOTE]


Marketing is not allowed, who has the best cheapest prices is not allowed.

The e-vendors and Price sites were removed just for this reason.

Dave

[WIKI2ECHO]

Just a newbie here but can you state just what the B&M's that you are referring to without the prices wspecially those that carry the 500.

Thanks Bill

[jdallaire]

Wow I purchased in June 2004 at $5000 dollars 14 months later a 40% price drop. Ya baby my son will now purchased his new 50" panny uy8. I enjoyed my panny for the 14 months with wonderful viewing I am still amazed at the picture this bad boy brings.

[newz54]

Sunday's circuit city ad shows the 50u with the new msrp price....plus a discount on top of that. Wow...this is going to force every plasma maker to drop their prices.

[Shark73]

[QUOTE=newz54]Sunday's circuit city ad shows the 50u with the new msrp price....plus a discount of 400 dollars on top of that. Wow...this is going to force every plasma maker to drop their prices.[/QUOTE]

Did it have a price on the 37 inch HD panel?

thanks,

JP

[Toxictretr]

How about the 42 inch HD panel?

[useagle]

CC AD:

TH50PX50U: MSRP On the first post - $$$$ saving
TH42PX50U: MSRP On the first post - $$$$ saving
TH42PD50U: MSRP On the first post - $$$$ saving

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[Toxictretr]

Thanks for the info. I have wanted the 42" HD and have been following this so much that the wife is getting pissed. The final price for that unit didnt fall that much from last week (discount and rebate) compaired to the msrp. If you are into the 50" it looks a bunch better. Any other noticable drops?

[DPatrick]

Just came from CC, and the Panasonic 50" plasma has been reduced in price an additional 10% in addition the $1,000 cut from the manufacturer.
So sorry, I read a few posts back the info I just sent.
But allow me to add that CC gives the purchaser a $100 coupon toward the purchase of hi-def signal from cable or satellite.

[cheridave]

[QUOTE=cheridave]Marketing is not allowed, who has the best cheapest prices is not allowed.

The e-vendors and Price sites were removed just for this reason.

Dave[/QUOTE]


Wow, it was only like about 4 post above.

Have a Good Night!

Dave

[Toxictretr]

How do I word this? So unless I am mistaken that unit is a good deal but CC is has only taken 400 of the MSRP and not as much off as last week. The total for the 42 only fell 200 or 300, Not the 500 that msrp fell. It seems like CC could do better.

[ice1874193]

Hey guys, i'm new to the plasma game, just got mine today! panny 50px50u. I had an issue w/ my previous tv (sony 50a10 rp lcd) and was able to work out a great deal on the 50" plasma. I also got a glimpse at the "dealer cost" when one of the employees showed me the actual cost in their system.

The dealer cost for this particular store was $$$$$$. I scored the tv for a ridiculously low $$$$$$ due to the deal i worked out b/c of the problem w/ my other tv.

edit ** Sorry guys, I took out the prices after I read the forum rules

[cheridave]

Pricing and coupon and discount talk continues:(

Thread Closed!

Dave