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criznag
09-06-05, 01:59 PM
Hey guys,

I recently moved into an apartment unfortunately serviced by SBC Home Entertainment. The reason I say unfortunately is that they partner with Directv to have one satellite for the entire apartment complex.
Their reason for this is:

SBCHE currently services apartment communities only. In a multi-dwelling unit setup, one satellite dish serves many units. In order to maintain signal quality over the long distance that the signal must travel from the satellite dish to the apartment, we "stack" the signal. This places the EVEN polarity of the satellite signal at 1550mhz-2050mhz, and leaves the ODD polarity of the satellite signal at 950mhz-1450mhz, allowing both polarities to share the same cable and be amplified/split to as many outlets as are provided at the apartment complex.

The problem with integrated DVR receivers is that they do not have the ability to "see" the stacked signal, and will not activate.

The solution for integrated DVR receivers is a de-stacker.

More info is at www.sbche.com/dvr

My question is with a replaytv 5040 do I still need to get this piece of equipment, or can I hook it up directly to the box they provide me? Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

ClearToLand
09-06-05, 03:15 PM
[QUOTE=criznag]I recently moved into an apartment unfortunately serviced by SBC Home Entertainment. The reason I say unfortunately is that they partner with Directv to have one satellite for the entire apartment complex.
Their reason for this is:

SBCHE currently services apartment communities only. In a multi-dwelling unit setup, one satellite dish serves many units. In order to maintain signal quality over the long distance that the signal must travel from the satellite dish to the apartment, we "stack" the signal. This places the EVEN polarity of the satellite signal at 1550mhz-2050mhz, and leaves the ODD polarity of the satellite signal at 950mhz-1450mhz, allowing both polarities to share the same cable and be amplified/split to as many outlets as are provided at the apartment complex.

The problem with integrated DVR receivers is that they do not have the ability to "see" the stacked signal, and will not activate.

The solution for integrated DVR receivers is a de-stacker.

More info is at www.sbche.com/dvr[/QUOTE]From your link:
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Types of DVR Units[list=1] Stand-alone DVR [color=red]Please understand that SBCHE does not support stand-alone DVR boxes.[/color]
The stand-alone DVR is essentially a VCR that doesn't use tape. It has a hard drive that it uses to record programs to be played back later. The stand-alone DVR works in tandem with several types of TV service; antenna, cable, and satellite. If you purchase a stand-alone DVR, you don't need to let SBCHE know, because your DVR service will be activated, supported and billed through the company that manufactured your stand-alone DVR (example: TiVoŽ would activate the stand-alone TiVo Series2 DVR). [color=red]SBCHE does not supply, service, support, or activate stand-alone DVR units. [/color]
Integrated DVR receiver The integrated DVR receiver is BOTH [color=red]a DVR[/color] AND [color=red]a satellite television receiver[/color], all in one component. If you currently lease a satellite receiver from SBCHE, the integrated DVR unit could either replace your leased box or be added as a secondary receiver to your account. Either way, SBCHE will need to be notified so that we can activate your integrated DVR and add DVR service to your account. Just plugging your new box in will not work. Please follow the procedure outlined below to activate your new receiver. [/list]Your ReplayTV is a stand-alone DVR (aka [color=red]unsupported[/color]) - you need a Satellite Receiver Set-Top-Box between your ReplayTV and the cable coming into your apartment and your ReplayTV will change the Satellite Receivers channels with either a Serial Cable or an IR Blaster. [Similarly, a TiVo would also be [color=red]unsupported[/color], while a DirecTiVo "should be" [color=green]supported[/color].]

[QUOTE=criznag]My question is: with a replaytv 5040 do I still need to get this piece of equipment - NO
can I hook it up directly to the box they provide me? YES[/quote]

criznag
09-06-05, 04:19 PM
[QUOTE=ClearToLand]From your link:Your ReplayTV is a stand-alone DVR (aka [color=red]unsupported[/color]) - you need a Satellite Receiver Set-Top-Box between your ReplayTV and the cable coming into your apartment and your ReplayTV will change the Satellite Receivers channels with either a Serial Cable or an IR Blaster. [Similarly, a TiVo would also be [color=red]unsupported[/color], while a DirecTiVo "should be" [color=green]supported[/color].][/QUOTE]

Yes, they give me a "Satellite Receiver Set-Top-Box", so all I would need to get is a Serial Cable or an IR Blaster? I have moved unfortunately and do not have these items anymore - can I purchase them for cheap?

Edit: I am pretty sure they give you a DirecTV D10 receiver. What's the best way to hook this up?

Thanks for the info.

criznag
09-06-05, 07:24 PM
Does the D10-100 still not work in Serial mode?

"The D10-100 has previously been proven to work with serial control. However, there has been a recent software update from DirecTV which prevents the ReplayTV from changing the D10-100 to channels below 100."

From http://server.iad.liveperson.net/hc/s-71042583/cmd/kbresource/kb-8087542712951214886/view_question!PAGETYPE?VisitorProfile=replaytv&action=view&documentid=43494

ClearToLand
09-06-05, 09:00 PM
[QUOTE=criznag]Does the D10-100 still not work in Serial mode?[/QUOTE]There's no need to DOUBLE POST - the "up-to-date" answer to the D10-100 dilemma is here: > > > 50xx stopped chaning channels on DirecTV D10 < < < (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6116830#post6116830)

criznag
09-06-05, 10:11 PM
[QUOTE=ClearToLand]There's no need to DOUBLE POST - the "up-to-date" answer to the D10-100 dilemma is here: > > > 50xx stopped chaning channels on DirecTV D10 < < < (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6116830#post6116830)[/QUOTE]

I apologize for that - I just did not think anyone would look for that sort of information in this thread - or answer it.

Back on this topic though - has anyone heard about how you can use the D10 as a destacker? Through some key sequences supposebly. This would save me $70+ for a single line destacker, and then I could just pick up a Directivo unit and plug it into that - if I am not mistaken.

Any ideas?

Thanks