AVS Forum Archive 2 - Sony DVP-NS90V

5TANGER

09-26-05, 11:24 AM

[QUOTE=AkaStp]:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Hey listen, Amazon IS full of it.

Check this out:

I placed an order on July 27. Ordered some books, and a gift for a friend's birthday (which was on the 7th of August).

Here's the latest email from their customer support in Bangalore, India.

[quote=Amazon.com]
Thank you for writing to us at Amazon.com.

We are very sorry for the delay in completing your order. I have
reviewed your account and can see that this experience has been far
less than positive.

We strive for convenience and efficiency at Amazon.com, but in this
instance we have fallen short of our goal. I'm truly sorry that your
impression of doing business with Amazon.com has been so negative.

Unfortunately, your order is still being delayed by a system error.
We have been in contact with our technical specialists, and they are
currently doing everything in their power to correct this problem and
ship your order as soon as possible.

However, we have no new information at this time regarding the status
of your order; you will be notified as soon as there is an update.

As this was not what you expected when you placed your order, we
would understand if you'd prefer to cancel it. You may cancel
unshipped items through the "Your Account" link at the top of our
home page by clicking the link that says "Cancel items or orders."
After signing in with your e-mail address and password, you will be
able to view your order history and cancel your order for any item
that has not yet entered the shipping process.

Otherwise, when your order is shipped, we will send you an e-mail to
confirm the shipment.

Again, I would like to apologize for the inconvenience you have
experienced and express our gratitude for the patience you've
displayed thus far.

Please be assured that this is not a typical Amazon.com experience
and in no way did we intend for this to happen. I hope that you will
give us another opportunity to prove the quality of our service to
you.

Thank you for shopping at Amazon.com.

Best regards,

Ashwani Kumar
Amazon.com Customer Service
http://www.amazon.com
[/quote]

They've been sending me this generic crap for over 2 months now. Same paragraphs over and over again, just in a slightly different order.

I know this isn't releant to the 90V, but I just had to vent. Amazon sucks.

5TANGER

09-26-05, 12:00 PM

I'm sorry for offending an Amazon kiss-ass. People need to hear both sides of the story, and know what goes on at Amazon SOMETIMES. Keep in mind that if something does go wrong, you might be faced with the crap I'm having to deal with right now.

On with the 90V discussions now.

Mach1Man

09-26-05, 12:35 PM

I'll bet Amazon Doesn't have it. Been in touch with Oade, Crutchfield, and Sony almost every other day and get same line; not due to ship till some day first week of October; same as the DVP-NS3100ES that I have on preorder.

5TANGER

09-26-05, 12:39 PM

[QUOTE=Mach1Man]I'll bet Amazon Doesn't have it. Been in touch with Oade, Crutchfield, and Sony almost every other day and get same line; not due to ship till some day first week of October; same as the DVP-NS3100ES that I have on preorder.[/QUOTE]
I'll second that.

I hope some local stores are going to start offering it soon. I already have the 70H and I'd like to do a side by side comparison.

Dralt

09-26-05, 12:41 PM

OK, OK, we all take a deep breath and we remember how soothing it is to be courteous and helpful.

The topic of this thread is the new NS90V, where to get it and the worthiness of it.

So, who did order it? At what price?
Does someone already have it?
How is it?
Does it have the same problem as the NS70H?

5TANGER

09-26-05, 01:08 PM

I don't mean to start with Amazon again, but the fact that they provide a shipping date estimate doesn't mean anything. My order's been like that forever. Every time I ask about it they set it to the next business day, and it always slips... time and time again. Don't count on the estimate is what I'm saying. If you do order, don't be disappointed if it doesn't ship on the date you expected.

dazbug

09-28-05, 06:26 AM

This player has just been released in Australia as 92 instead of 90. Hopefully ill get my hands on one soon.

If anyone has one, be sure to review it :)

richardbk

09-29-05, 12:16 PM

Hi everyone, this is my first post - I'm just getting into HD now. I'm not as hardcore as most of you; in fact, I just sold my Pioneer DVL-919 LD/DVD Player (and laserdisc collection) and my Sony 32XBR250. Replaced it 2 weeks ago with a Sony 34XBR960 and I'm loving it! (And that's just watching HD programs. With no DVD player, my trusty, lowly original PS2 has been filling in for the last month.)

Anyway, I ordered the NS90V from Amazon and it appears to be in transit - trackng number and everything. It shipped on the 28th and supposedly will be here around 10/11.

Quick question (and yes, I did a search but, because I'm not very technical, I'm confused): should I connect it to the XBR960 with an HDMI cable - or component?

Thanks, guys.

5TANGER

09-29-05, 12:41 PM

Because there is no degradation due to multiple analog to digital and digital to analog conversions it is best if you use the HDMI cable and make use of the upconverting DVD player you just bought.

Moreover, HDMI cables are cheaper in most cases (monoprice.com).

Dralt

09-29-05, 12:57 PM

[QUOTE=richardbk]Hi everyone, this is my first post - I'm just getting into HD now. I'm not as hardcore as most of you; in fact, I just sold my Pioneer DVL-919 LD/DVD Player (and laserdisc collection) and my Sony 32XBR250. Replaced it 2 weeks ago with a Sony 34XBR960 and I'm loving it! (And that's just watching HD programs. With no DVD player, my trusty, lowly original PS2 has been filling in for the last month.)

Anyway, I ordered the NS90V from Amazon and it appears to be in transit - trackng number and everything. It shipped on the 28th and supposedly will be here around 10/11.

Quick question (and yes, I did a search but, because I'm not very technical, I'm confused): should I connect it to the XBR960 with an HDMI cable - or component?

Thanks, guys.[/QUOTE]

If you are going to use the upscaling (720p/1080i) this player provides, use a HDMI cable.

If you are going to use this player to output 480i/p, you may use component cables.

At 480i/p, there is no visible difference between component and HDMI.

The Kingfish

10-01-05, 05:02 PM

While shoplifting at the Glendale, CA Good Guys I noticed that they had a bunch of NS90v's sitting on the floor so I bought one. When I got home I played a couple of 16x9 formatted DVD's (Eagles, Sky Captain) at 720p and did not notice any of the shifting problems others have experienced on the NS70v. There was one DVD, though, that did have a 1/2 border on top and bottom, the Superbit version on Spiderman 1. If that's the only disc that it happens to, I'll live with it until the HD DVD/BluRay thing sorts itself out.

5TANGER

10-01-05, 05:05 PM

How much do they sell for at the Good Guys?

The Kingfish

10-01-05, 05:10 PM

[QUOTE=5TANGER]How much do they sell for at the Good Guys?[/QUOTE]

I got it for $199.00 although they tried to sell me the extended warranty, overpriced Monster HDMI and other assorted digital cables which would have really enhanced my viewing pleasure (according to the Skippy who sold it to me, can't blame him for trying though).

borba47

10-01-05, 11:03 PM

I got my NS90 at Good Guys on sept 27th, but my HDTV wont be delivered till next week so its just sitting in its box. I hope it doesn't have the shift problem that the 70 model does. What sucks is that if i try and return it they are going to try and stick me with 15% restock fee.

I had the same thing at my Good Guys. The dude said that I wont be able to enjoy it without the $150.00 Monster HDMI cable. LOL. I told him I would be fine I already ordered a $20.00 cable from Monoprice. :)

Uninvited Guest

10-02-05, 07:37 AM

[QUOTE=The Kingfish]While shoplifting at the Glendale, CA Good Guys I noticed that they had a bunch of NS90v's sitting on the floor so I bought one. When I got home I played a couple of 16x9 formatted DVD's (Eagles, Sky Captain) at 720p and did not notice any of the shifting problems others have experienced on the NS70v. There was one DVD, though, that did have a 1/2 border on top and bottom, the Superbit version on Spiderman 1. If that's the only disc that it happens to, I'll live with it until the HD DVD/BluRay thing sorts itself out.[/QUOTE]Was that over HDMI?

I think the equal boarders you noticed on Spiderman is an aspect ratio thing. The problem on the 70 was that the borders are uneven.

jcpzero

10-02-05, 09:05 AM

[QUOTE=borba47]I got my NS90 at Good Guys on sept 27th, What sucks is that if i try and return it they are going to try and stick me with 15% restock fee.

:)[/QUOTE]

Why the restocking fee? Others do not have this for DVD players - and if true of GG I would be hesitant to buy future electronics from them if charged a fee.

Also NS90 owners please report in if you see (or don't see) a shift, the best check would be a NS70 owner that has the shift tries out an NS90. Due to this restocking fee comment and no sale price, I am hesitant to try the NS90 as I have the shift issue on the NS70 and have a higher expectation than usual I would have to return the unit.

JCPZero

The Kingfish

10-02-05, 11:12 AM

[QUOTE=Uninvited Guest]Was that over HDMI?

I think the equal boarders you noticed on Spiderman is an aspect ratio thing. The problem on the 70 was that the borders are uneven.[/QUOTE]

Yes, this is over HDMI. Regarding the cropping on my Superbit version of Spiderman 1, I only get them at 720p and 1080i, not on 480. And I don't get them when I switch to component so I don't think it's an aspect ratio thing. Also, I got the cropping on the 70 but the bars were smaller.

borba47

10-02-05, 03:16 PM

Why the restocking fee? Others do not have this for DVD players - and if true of GG I would be hesitant to buy future electronics from them if charged a fee.

Just looked at my receipt, no restocking fee on DVD player. Sorry for the misinformation. 30 day return police for full refund.

BlakeN

10-02-05, 11:27 PM

Could somone throw a pal disc in and tell me if it works please? Sony's site doesn't mention pal or ntsc support and after doing a bit of searching no "reliable" website says anything either. I found a few sites that say it does but I don't trust them. If this player can do ntsc and pal It might be exactly what I am looking for.

Thanks

DekeHead

10-03-05, 09:40 AM

Do these Sony players support DivX or WMV playback?

BaN

10-03-05, 03:20 PM

Does this player come with any HDMI cable? I have one unit on order. I need to know so I can place an order for a 6' HDMI cable. Thanks in advance.

borba47

10-04-05, 01:07 AM

No it does not come with a HDMI cable. Purchased mine at Monoprice.

scherer326

10-04-05, 04:54 PM

thought that I would let everyone know that I exchanged the DVP-NS70H for the DVP-NS90V.

Two problems with the 70H:
1. shift on 720p and 1080i (didnt really bother me)
2. delay on audio, when I would put a dvd in or skipped to a different scene during the movie, it would take a few seconds for the audio to kick in on my av receiver. The av receiver has a built in dts/dolby digital decoder. The movie would start, but there would be no sound for a second or two. When the sound did come on, it would be in sync, just wondering why the delay.

With the 90V:
1. seems like there is no shift problem so far
2. audio delay is fixed because dvd player has a built in digital/dts decoder.

Deltmi

10-04-05, 05:21 PM

[QUOTE=scherer326]thought that I would let everyone know that I exchanged the DVP-NS70H for the DVP-NS90V.

Two problems with the 70H:
1. shift on 720p and 1080i (didnt really bother me)
2. delay on audio, when I would put a dvd in or skipped to a different scene during the movie, it would take a few seconds for the audio to kick in on my av receiver. The av receiver has a built in dts/dolby digital decoder. The movie would start, but there would be no sound for a second or two. When the sound did come on, it would be in sync, just wondering why the delay.

With the 90V:
1. seems like there is no shift problem so far
2. audio delay is fixed because dvd player has a built in digital/dts decoder.[/QUOTE]

Is the PQ same or better with the 90V compared to the 70H?

scherer326

10-04-05, 05:56 PM

I think it is about the same. havent really tested it completely yet but will post my findings in a bit

richardbk

10-04-05, 06:55 PM

Received mine from amazon today.

Jon S

10-04-05, 08:49 PM

no it does not come with a HDMI cable, it does not support WMV or DIVX. The NTSC models will only play NTSC, it is not a universal player.

jcg

10-04-05, 11:12 PM

Does the NS90V do 480i over HDMI? I know it was posted that the NS70 doesn't do it, but wondering if this model does or maybe the new 3100ES?

John

10secbee

10-05-05, 10:58 AM

Now I am confused, on a different forum they claim the 90 has the same shift problem as the 70. Can someone please confirm this for me. THANKS

Deltmi

10-05-05, 11:20 AM

[QUOTE=10secbee]Now I am confused, on a different forum they claim the 90 has the same shift problem as the 70. Can someone please confirm this for me. THANKS[/QUOTE]

Do you have a link to that forum thread?

Mach1Man

10-05-05, 11:25 AM

Off topic but...........

How do you add your equipment so it comes up when you post.

Thanks

Deltmi

10-05-05, 11:42 AM

[QUOTE=Mach1Man]Off topic but...........

How do you add your equipment so it comes up when you post.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Under "User CP" click Edit Signature, then put whatever you want. The seperator line will automatically be inserted.

Uninvited Guest

10-05-05, 01:46 PM

[QUOTE=Deltmi]Do you have a link to that forum thread?[/QUOTE]-> Link <- (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6299584&&#post6299584)

Deltmi

10-05-05, 03:25 PM

[QUOTE=Uninvited Guest]-> Link <- (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6299584&&#post6299584)[/QUOTE]

It was one person who said they saw the shift in the ns90v. Not to discredit his post, but I'd like to see more responses from other people who have the ns90v on whether there is a noticeable shift in 1080i/720p.

P.S. Thanks for the link :D

Uninvited Guest

10-05-05, 05:10 PM

[QUOTE=Deltmi]It was one person who said they saw the shift in the ns90v. Not to discredit his post, but I'd like to see more responses from other people who have the ns90v on whether there is a noticeable shift in 1080i/720p.

P.S. Thanks for the link :D[/QUOTE]You're welcome.

I'm feeling the same. I'd like to see something concrete before I have to rule out the ns90v and pay more for a DVP-NS3100ES class player.

Davv

10-05-05, 09:52 PM

This player better be a good one without any probs like te 70. I'm really looking fot a good player.

jcg

10-06-05, 10:11 AM

Anyone tested 480i over HDMI on the NS90 or 3100ES?

John

[QUOTE=jcg]Does the NS90V do 480i over HDMI? I know it was posted that the NS70 doesn't do it, but wondering if this model does or maybe the new 3100ES?

John[/QUOTE]

Mach1Man

10-06-05, 10:21 AM

I'll try on the 3100ES tonight.

Dixie Flatline

10-06-05, 10:47 AM

[QUOTE=jcg]Anyone tested 480i over HDMI on the NS90 or 3100ES?

John[/QUOTE]
Note that the online manuals for these players do not show 480i as an HDMI output option, only 480p, 720p, and 1080i. (Whereas the 975V manual did show 480i in the same spot.) Doesn't look too promising...

millerwill

10-06-05, 11:28 AM

Does the 90 have the same de-interlacing chip as the 975 (which is free of MB'ing on Sammy dlp's)?

5TANGER

10-07-05, 06:16 PM

[QUOTE=BlakeN]Could somone throw a pal disc in and tell me if it works please? Sony's site doesn't mention pal or ntsc support and after doing a bit of searching no "reliable" website says anything either. I found a few sites that say it does but I don't trust them. If this player can do ntsc and pal It might be exactly what I am looking for.

Thanks[/QUOTE]
I have a couple PAL DVD's but they're Region 2, and the player (NS70H) does not play anything but Region 1. I am sure the NS90 is no different.

scherer326

10-07-05, 07:37 PM

what settings should you have this dvd player on for the best pq results. I have the Sony KDF-E50A10

720 or 1080?
standard, cinema 1 or 2, dynamic 1 or 2?
sharpness?
BNR?
MNR?
Black Corrector?

PLease help

merlintl

10-07-05, 09:27 PM

So I got my DVP-NS90V today..... Nice DVD player. I haven't had it long but I'll post my experience.

===============
TV: Sony KDF-42WE655
Input Used: HDMI
===============

Do I see the shift issue? At 1080i or 720p, I don't see the shift issue when overscan for the TV is set to normal or +1. However, when overscan is set to -1, I did see about a 1/2" black line at the bottom at 720p and about 1/2" black line at the top at 1080i.

How does the picture look? Awesome

So far have glanced at Underworld Special Edition, The Incredibles, Matrix, Fifth Element, and an episode of the new Battlestar Galactica series.

At first Fifth Element look like total crap but I forgot I watched it on an HD channel last night. Once I reset my brain for DVD mode, it was a pretty good picture. It kinda made me realize that I'm going to be re-purchasing a few DVDs once the the Blue-Ray/HD-DVD mess is straightened out.

The only negative for the video occured when I paused The Incredibles. I noticed jaggy lines in certain areas when in 720p. The jaggy lines did not show up in 1080i.

Any Audio Problems detected? No

Where did I get my HDMI cable? Monoprice

How much did the HDMI cable cost? Very inexpensive for a 6ft cable w/Ferrite Cores

Do I plan to keep the player? Yep

Do I notice a huge difference between this player and my previous Sony Progressive scan player? I'm seeing a difference but its not a huge one.

What video mode am I using? 1080i..... Why? 720P seemed to look slightly better at first than 1080i but after watching it and mucking with it for about 2 hrs, 1080i seemed to be the way to go.

jcpzero

10-07-05, 09:33 PM

Went to GG today to see about trying out the NS90 and check for a shift. My local two GG stores are closing - all sales final. I'll wait until this player comes to some other stores.

JCPZero

scherer326

10-07-05, 09:43 PM

merlintl

scherer326

10-07-05, 09:43 PM

merlintl

what settings do you have the dvd player at?

720 or 1080?
standard, cinema 1 or 2, dynamic 1 or 2?
sharpness?
BNR?
MNR?
Black Corrector?

merlintl

10-08-05, 12:36 AM

scherer326,

1080i
Picture = Cinema1
Sharpness = off
BNR = off
MNR = on

scherer326

10-08-05, 09:21 AM

thanks merlintl, will test your settings out today and get back to you. much appreciated

afrost

10-08-05, 03:34 PM

do you have your pause mode set to "frame" or "auto"?

if you set it to frame that might solve your jaggies issue when paused.....or at least that's what somebody else said in the 70H thread.

scherer326

10-08-05, 05:33 PM

merlintl, one more question
do you have yours set on

YCbCr or RGB?
Black level on or off?

thanks for the help

millerwill

10-08-05, 06:54 PM

How much better is the Sony 3100 than the 90? It cost more than twice as much; is it higher quality or more features?

Uninvited Guest

10-09-05, 12:27 AM

Can anyone point me to a retailer with the DVP-NS90V in stock?

Thanks

merlintl

10-09-05, 11:37 AM

scherer326,

YCbCr and Black level on

Uninvited Guest,

It is in stock at Crutchfield.

scherer326

10-09-05, 05:25 PM

thanks again merlintl. This what I like about this site, people like you merlintl. Helping out others. I really like the place so far. I am just deciding is I should leave the picture on cinema 1 or standard.

Much appreciated.

iforsevilla

10-09-05, 07:47 PM

So, can anyone else report seeing the shift problem seen on the 70 with the 90? I wanna get a few more confirmation that it is not an isolated incident before I pick it up. Thanks.

scherer326

10-09-05, 07:57 PM

I think there may be a shift. But you know what, I dont really notice it and personally I dont care. I think this is a great dvd player and a keeper for me.

BaN

10-09-05, 08:13 PM

As you may already know that the Good Guys stores are closing. Earlier today, I stopped by one of the stores at picked up a new DVP-NS90V for 10% normal price. That specific store still have 3 new in box and 2 display units.

RoubaixPro

10-09-05, 08:21 PM

Hey BaN,

Which Badguys store did you buy the DVP-NS90V from? I live near the Concord, and Walnut Creek, California stores?

BaN

10-09-05, 11:56 PM

I got it at the WOW store in Laguna Hills store in Orange County. They also have a bunch of NS975V's.

DekeHead

10-10-05, 06:10 AM

Has anybody with this unit noticed layer changes? I have an older Sony player that poorly handles layer changes in 3 out of 5 DVDs. I'm hoping this player can seamlessly playback just about any DVD.

jacobp

10-10-05, 04:57 PM

Hello all,
I have a Pioneer Elite 520-HD PRO rear projection TV. The TV has component vido inputs, but does NOT have HDMI. My Panny RP91 just crapped out on me, so I'm in the market for a new DVD player. My local ProVideo shop is recommending the NS90V.

Does that make sense to the resident experts here? Since I can only use the component video cables to connect the DVD to the TV, will I be able to take advantage of the upscaling? Does the NS90V play DVD+R discs?

Is there another DVD player (that will play DVD+R discs) that you'd recommend.

Thanks very much for your help in advance.

Jacob

BaN

10-10-05, 05:29 PM

It does play +R discs. As far as taking advantage of the upscaling, I think the answer is No as the unit doesn't output anything higher than 480p from its component out.

RoubaixPro

10-10-05, 09:17 PM

Hey BaN,

How are you feeling about the overall performance of your DVP-NS90V? Would you recommend it as an upconverting DVD player? Mine just broke and I don't want to spend the big bucks on a high end player like the Pioneer Elites, since it will probably be become obsolete in 2-3 years by a Blue-Ray/HD-DVD/DVD combo player. Its truly pathetice that mutliple standards will again occur. Can't we ever all just get along ? :p

BaN

10-11-05, 10:51 AM

I have a need for an HDMI upconvert DVD player to feed my Panny projector with a DVI input for serious movie watching. It would also be the player for my on-order Sony XBR LCD. So I tried the Sony 70 then the Sammy 850 and finally the Sony 90. For all people who keep wondering about this, I can confirm that both the Sony 70 and 90 expose the same vertical shift problem. As far as the video quality performance, they seem to be similar. One thing for sure, they're much better compared to the Sammy 850. The Sammy is simply dark and as not as sharp. At the end, I decide to keep the 90 over the 70 simply because it seems to be better built with an aluminum face plate compared to plastic on the 70 and side benefit of SACD, and also the 10% from the GG.

Deltmi

10-13-05, 11:43 AM

Can anyone else attest to the NS90 having the same vertical shift as the NS70?

cdnscg

10-13-05, 03:53 PM

Has anyone compared the picture quality of the NS90 (or NS70) to the NS975V? Specifically the color. I'm wondering if they have the earlier reported greed depression.

merlintl

10-13-05, 07:40 PM

[QUOTE=Deltmi]Can anyone else attest to the NS90 having the same vertical shift as the NS70?[/QUOTE]

A snippet from my previous post.....

....
===============
TV: Sony KDF-42WE655
Input Used: HDMI
===============

Do I see the shift issue? At 1080i or 720p, I don't see the shift issue when overscan for the TV is set to normal or +1. However, when overscan is set to -1, I did see about a 1/2" black line at the bottom at 720p and about 1/2" black line at the top at 1080i
....

borba47

10-13-05, 08:15 PM

If anyone cares the GG in Dublin, CA has at least 6 of them as of today. They are selling them for $160.00. $40.00 cheaper then when I bought mine 3 weeks ago. But sells are final.

johnsom

10-13-05, 11:55 PM

I just got the DVP-NS90V from crutchfield. I really liked my old 530d Sony player, but I can't say I'm impressed with this one.

First off, it does have the shift. With a calibration DVD it really looks like it's sqeezing the picture and not shifting it. But even the built in "blue" screen has a black gap at the top.

The progressive processing is horrible as well. Running the HQV disk shows clearly that it isn't worth bothering.

It's too much money to keep it and use it in 480i over component. I'm going to send it back.

FYI, I'm running a panasonic 500U plasma

bannani

10-14-05, 10:11 AM

Can someone finally can answer the question : Can this dvd player output 480i through the Hdmi for sure??

Thanks

tombellanca

10-14-05, 06:21 PM

I have an older Sony DVD/CD player - not sure the exact model number.
It's about 3 years old with a 6(5?) disc changer.

Would like to add the 90V to my system for upconverting.

Any thoughts as to whether the remotes will play nice together - ie not conflict?

Thanks in advance!

Paul Bigelow

10-14-05, 07:36 PM

No 480i through HDMI with the 90V. The previous model DVP-NS975V will pass 480i through the HDMI.

Paul

bannani

10-15-05, 06:06 AM

thanks Paul!

nameless33

10-18-05, 02:20 AM

[QUOTE=johnsom]
First off, it does have the shift. With a calibration DVD it really looks like it's sqeezing the picture and not shifting it. But even the built in "blue" screen has a black gap at the top.

The progressive processing is horrible as well. Running the HQV disk shows clearly that it isn't worth bothering.[/QUOTE]

That doesn't sound too good, esp the part about squeezing the image. Anyone else throw a calibration disk in this player and see the same ?

The Kingfish

10-18-05, 05:24 AM

[QUOTE=nameless33]That doesn't sound too good, esp the part about squeezing the image.[/QUOTE]
This is why I eventually got rid of the 90v. I could live with a bit of shifting or cropping, but the squeezing was actually distorting the image.

dazbug

10-18-05, 05:34 AM

The more i hear about this player the mor ei dont want it.

It has just been released in australia and doesnt even support PAL progressive scan. I would be connecting it to a Pana AE700 via hdmi and upscal to 720p on projector. Will not having PAL Progressive make a big difference in pic quality or should i just go for another PAL progressive player??

blipszyc

10-18-05, 10:32 AM

[QUOTE=tombellanca]I have an older Sony DVD/CD player - not sure the exact model number.
It's about 3 years old with a 6(5?) disc changer.

Would like to add the 90V to my system for upconverting.

Any thoughts as to whether the remotes will play nice together - ie not conflict?

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]
Its been a while since I've owned more than one piece of Sony equipment, but if I recall, Sony has a remote code that you could set on the back of the unit. 1, 2 or 3 and then you would set the same code on the remote. I remember both my Sony VCRs having this feature, and my CD Changer does too, but not sure about the 90v. If not, the one without that feature is probably using Code 1, and then you could set the older unit to a different code, if possible.

cdnscg

10-18-05, 01:03 PM

[QUOTE=cdnscg]Has anyone compared the picture quality of the NS90 (or NS70) to the NS975V? Specifically the color. I'm wondering if they have the earlier reported green depression.[/QUOTE]

Anyone?

dazbug

10-19-05, 03:37 AM

Is this statement correct?

There is PAL 576i and 576p which is done by progressive scan DVD players. Then there is NTSC 480i and 480p which is again processed by the DVD player. When you get into the 720p/1080i standard there is no PAL or NTSC. 720p and 1080i is the standard

blipszyc

10-19-05, 12:14 PM

[QUOTE=dazbug]Is this statement correct?

There is PAL 576i and 576p which is done by progressive scan DVD players. Then there is NTSC 480i and 480p which is again processed by the DVD player. When you get into the 720p/1080i standard there is no PAL or NTSC. 720p and 1080i is the standard[/QUOTE]
The HD standard is called ATSC. I don't remember what it stands for, but I do believe this is a global standard and not specific to any certain region, such as PAL and NTSC.

djwilso

10-19-05, 01:35 PM

I did not know about this issue before making the purchase. I am seeing small black bars for any anamorphic DVD with a 1.85:1 aspect ratio. If I play the DVD in a different player, the image fills the screen properly.

Also, DVDs that should display in 4:3 aspect are automatically stretched to the full width of the screen, also with small black bars on top and bottom.

How annoying.

FYI I am using the HDMI connection to a KDSR60XBR1 and have the resolution in the Sony DVD player set to 1920x1080i.

So, what are the odds that Sony will provide a fix for this? Has anyone found a way to fix it themselves by using different settings? Or, should I send it back?

Is the Oppo the way to go?

Thanks,
Dennis

afrost

10-19-05, 02:22 PM

you can change how 4:3 content is displayed in the menu of the player so that it doesn't stretch.

so far it seems extremely unlikely that sony will fix the verticle compression issue.

skidoggie

10-20-05, 05:52 PM

djwilso,

what has been your experience with the KDS-R60XBR1?

did you compare to any other 1080 products?

I am considering the KDS-R60XBR1 and have heard from two guys that it is the cats meow!

Do you agree?

skidoggie

10-20-05, 07:48 PM

any opinons out there regarding a top notch DVD player.....

can't wait for the blue ray stuff, existing DVD player crapped out

skidoggie

10-20-05, 08:06 PM

thanks for the protocol lesson

skidoggie

10-21-05, 10:05 AM

That is alright, I am new to this stuff...

djwilso

10-21-05, 07:20 PM

[QUOTE=skidoggie]djwilso,

what has been your experience with the KDS-R60XBR1?

did you compare to any other 1080 products?

I am considering the KDS-R60XBR1 and have heard from two guys that it is the cats meow!

Do you agree?[/QUOTE]

The TV is fantastic! I had seen the 1080p Samsungs a few months ago and was disappointed at the picture quality. My wife really liked the picture on a Sony HDTV we saw at Circuit City one weekend, so we waited for the Sony 1080p to come out and got one without ever even seeing it first. It has not disappointed at all.

Dennis

djwilso

10-21-05, 07:23 PM

Well, even though the 480p output from HDMI does not shrink and looks really good, I bought it strictly for 1080i and it doesn't look that much better than my current progressive player with component cables, so I called Crutchfield today and got an RMA #.

Too bad... Hopefully Sony will do better on the new Blu-Ray players.

Dennis

dazbug

12-12-05, 11:32 PM

What colour does eveyoine use as in normal, cinema 1 or 2 etc???

BNR on or off?

MMR on or off?

When using hdmi, do you set it to RGB or YrCrP?

Does anyone find that they get a better pic upconverting to 1080i?

I have the pana AE700 proj which its native reolution is 720p, but i think feeding it a 1080i signal via the dvd player gives me a crisper image than feeding it 720.

. What is everyone else using??

dazbug

12-14-05, 07:31 PM

no one.?

_XipHiaS_

12-15-05, 06:28 AM

[QUOTE=dazbug]no one.?[/QUOTE]

Use YCbCr for the HDMI, if the PJ don't support it it switches back auto.
Only use MNR and BNR if you see compression error's, else turn them off, so you don't risk loosing detail trough those filters.

I have the mode at standard/default, have to look into that later, but don't think i need cinema setting or something, BTB is also showing up fine.

Sharpness is also off, don't like any more processing on the image than needed.

ptlurking

12-15-05, 09:02 AM

[QUOTE=dazbug]What colour does eveyoine use as in normal, cinema 1 or 2 etc???

BNR on or off?

MMR on or off?

When using hdmi, do you set it to RGB or YrCrP?

Does anyone find that they get a better pic upconverting to 1080i?

I have the pana AE700 proj which its native reolution is 720p, but i think feeding it a 1080i signal via the dvd player gives me a crisper image than feeding it 720.

. What is everyone else using??[/QUOTE]

Daz,

I have the Sony for 1 month now and found best results using the Cinema 2 setting on my Sony CRT RPTV.
Out of the box the NS90V looked too dark to my eyes and I didn't want to mess with my TV settings.

I have all other player video settings set to off.

Note: My connection is via component.

PT

_XipHiaS_

12-15-05, 11:19 AM

[QUOTE=_XipHiaS_]Use YCbCr for the HDMI, if the monitor don't support it it switches back auto.
Only use MNR and BNR if you see compression error's, else turn them off, so you don't risk loosing detail trough those filters.

I have the mode at standard/default, have to look into that later, but don't think i need cinema setting or something, BTB is also showing up fine.

Sharpness is also off, don't like any more processing on the image than needed.[/QUOTE]

Ohw and i'm using it on a Sony HS50 with a 92" diag. screen. Gain 1.0/mat white

dazbug

12-16-05, 07:29 AM

I thought you are meant to use RGB setting in the options for hdmi not YrCrP?

Whats the differences in using either?

_XipHiaS_

12-16-05, 10:11 AM

[QUOTE=dazbug]I thought you are meant to use RGB setting in the options for hdmi not YrCrP?

Whats the differences in using either?[/QUOTE]

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=602224&highlight=YCbCr
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=556134&highlight=YCbCr
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=578801&highlight=YCbCr

NJGuy

12-30-05, 12:38 AM

I have a BENQ 8700 and have connected the ns90V via a tripplite HDMI-DVI adapter. The projector detects a 525P signal no matter what setting I use on the ns90v. What am I missing? Also, sometimes the player refuses to turn on when the HDMI adapter is connected. Does anyone have the same setup and has been successful in getting a 720p signal over DVI? I currently have a Bravo D1 and get 720P. Any thoughts appreciated.

TheElites

12-31-05, 08:17 PM

I'm a little confused, so let me get this straight, when people say the hdmi doesn't output 480i, do they mean it won't accept 480i videos?

bri1270

01-01-06, 07:06 AM

No, they mean it won't output 480i over HDMI, which is the Ideal digital transport if you're using an external scaler like the Iscan VP30.

ekko star

01-01-06, 08:00 AM

Having a NS92 with shift issues has anybody bee able to find somewhere in the service menus for an adjustment of some sorts on the NS90 ?

TheElites

01-01-06, 01:12 PM

does this player play DVD+R?

_XipHiaS_

02-16-06, 10:59 AM

This one is for the DVP-NS92V (European version). I misted it as they still using the same filename, but i noticed that the upgrading manual picture changed to 1.3.2. I had already flashed it before with 1.3.1, so to be sure i compared the file with the old one, good news is it is indeed a new version/different from the old one. Bad news, i have still a shift. Luckily i could compensate that with shift options on my projector (HS50), now waiting for the vertical "compression"/barrs to be fixed http://www.sonydigital-link.com/HAV/downloads/downloads.asp?m=DVP-NS92V&f=FW995&l=nl