OT: [NYTimes] TiVo to Transfer Shows to iPods, Sony PSP (1Q06)

[icecow]

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/21/business/media/21download.html


Interesting business triangles. Tivo is--in part--owned by Disney. Steve Jobs obviously is involved with Apple, and Pixar. Pixar and Disney are trying to 'make up' after some friction a few years ago. Disney owns CBS. CBS has allowed some shows to be downloaded to video ipods. Now Disney/Tivo is allowing tivo shows to be moved on to video ipods.



silly conspiracy theory.. ;)
Saudi Arabia's Prince Al-Waleed, the fifth richest man in the world, member of the Saudi Royal Family, owns part of Disney:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_billionaires_%282005%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Waleed_bin_Talal

Bush is a friend to the Saudi Royal Family.

conclusion:
The 'Sneak and Peak' provision of the Patriot Act is really about enforcing DRM.

[chain777]

So Tivo is 'giving' their users another feature we already have. But wait, they also get the privledge of paying for the software ($20-$30) that adds the additional DRM to the transcoded file.

Damn, I really wish I had a tivo...

[JohnnyArcade]

Disney owns CBS - You meant ABC, right? Disney owns ABC, and ABC has allowed shows to be downloaded to iPods (Lost etc).

I believe CBS is Viacom?

[sfhub]

[QUOTE=JohnnyArcade]- You meant ABC, right? Disney owns ABC, and ABC has allowed shows to be downloaded to iPods (Lost etc).[/QUOTE]
This is icecow, he meant CBS :)

[Jeff D]

Wow, this is interesting... just saw the article myself and came to see what people were saying about it. While I think it's cool, I would think it would be really cool if these portable devices didn't require reencoding. Granted that would be a lot of wasted disk/flash space but at the cost of ease of use. Oh well, it's still cool. With all the need for this video encoding I think it's time for one of them fancy dual processor PCs.

[icecow]

Grr, I meant ABC. CBS is doing some other stupid download thing, freudian slip.


Yo, Jeff D
When I was at the podcast convention I got Leo Laporte to sign a picture of himself, "To Jeff D, <signed> Leo Laporte"

Want it?

I'll scan it later.

If you want it sent give me any adress and I'll send it there.

[frankz00]

This is a step in the right direction for TiVo but the blunderous move is on the transfer end. Transfering in realtime has got to go for TiVo to be a hit.

[Ace987]

[QUOTE=frankz00]This is a step in the right direction for TiVo but the blunderous move is on the transfer end. Transfering in realtime has got to go for TiVo to be a hit.[/QUOTE] Unfortunately, it's almost the same for ReplayTV. This is especially true if you want to transfer something recorded in high quality. I can transfer a 1 hour show recorded at standard quality in about 15-20 minutes. Add another 30 minutes (my pretty quick computer converts 2 seconds of video per second, slower machine converts in real time or even slower) to convert that 1 hour show to MPG4 and it's damn close to an hour.

I still think the best solution is something like Slingbox or Sony's Location Free player (which now works with PSP). Those convert in real time, control your cable, satellite and DVR, but require you to be at a wireless hotspot.

[icecow]

[QUOTE=sfhub]This is icecow, he meant CBS :)[/QUOTE]


cowing* me isn't going to change anything


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[icecow]

[QUOTE=sfhub]This is icecow, he meant CBS :)[/QUOTE]


cowing me isn't going to change anything

[Jeff D]

[QUOTE=icecow]
Yo, Jeff D
When I was at the podcast convention I got Leo Laporte to sign a picture of himself, "To Jeff D, <signed> Leo Laporte"
[/QUOTE]

Alright, you cracked me up, that's funny.

[icecow]

[QUOTE=icecow]http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/21/business/media/21download.html


Interesting business triangles. Tivo is--in part--owned by Disney. Steve Jobs obviously is involved with Apple, and Pixar. Pixar and Disney are trying to 'make up' after some friction a few years ago. Disney owns CBS. CBS has allowed some shows to be downloaded to video ipods. Now Disney/Tivo is allowing tivo shows to be moved on to video ipods.



silly conspiracy theory.. ;)
Saudi Arabia's Prince Al-Waleed, the fifth richest man in the world, member of the Saudi Royal Family, owns part of Disney:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_billionaires_%282005%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Waleed_bin_Talal

Bush is a friend to the Saudi Royal Family.

conclusion:
The 'Sneak and Peak' provision of the Patriot Act is really about enforcing DRM.[/QUOTE]


Maybe not that silly..

Wow..

Are Media Owners Trying To Hijack Terror Legislation?
http://digital-lifestyles.info/display_page.asp?section=business&id=2804

Entertainment industry 'trying to hijack data retention directive'
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/business/legal/0,39020651,39238422,00.htm

Slashdot:

"The recording industry is trying to hijack the EU's data retention directive, which is being brought in to fight terrorism, to try and get their copyright battles fought for them. As previously reported, the EU may be making copyright infringement a criminal offence, and the Creative Media Business Alliance is lobbying hard to stop the European laws on data retention being restricted to cover terrorism and organized crime (as is currently proposed). In essence, they want to be able to get police to search through newly extended records from ISPs to look for evidence of illegal filesharing. In the words of the executive director of the Open Rights group, 'the music industry's attempt to hijack this legislation is a travesty and a gross affront to civil liberties and human rights.'"

http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/05/11/24/2243246.shtml?tid=123&tid=141


BoingBoing:

Entertainment industry: Treat our customers like terrorists!

The EU is rushing to enact a "data retention" directive that will make ISPs and phone carriers wiretap every bit and call, storing it all practically forever. Supposedly this is only to be used by coppers who are chasing the mafia and/or terrorists, but a newly formed entertainment industry group wants it applied to file-sharers as well.
The newly-formed Creative and Media Business Alliance (CMBA), made up of companies such as Sony BMG, Disney, EMI, IFPI, MPA and Universal Music International, this week expressed an interest in communications traffic data so that they can more easily prosecute "intellectual property infringements".
Thanks to a combination of two fast-tracked EU directives, they may just get their wish: and allow a UK plan to limit civil liberties to turn into a privacy-invading free-for-all by the entertainment lobby.

The Open Rights Group site has instructions for emailing your MP and your MEP -- the majority of Internet users in the world are file-sharers. Under this proposal, their privacy would be stripped away under the same rubric used to hunt terrorists.

http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2005/11/23/music-industry-tries-to-hijack-serious-crime-legislation-in-europe/

[icecow]

Update on the Leo Laporte picture signed "To Jeff D, Leo Laporte"

For 2+ weeks it's been in a bag in my truck with a bunch of podcast convention brochers. I hope it's not crumpled from some stuff I lazed out taking out after the move.

It looks I have a biorhythm lately and I'm at the low part of the cycle. I'll try to get it sent to you by christmas for kicks if you want.

No diss to Leo Laporte. Actually, I've seen none of his shows--my last cable didn't have the scifi channel or techtv or heard his talkshow(kfi?), but I've heard him say this or that through the years and he always got my props.