Little or no Geometry issues possible?

[deadzone]

I have the Samsung Slimfit 30 inch widescreen HDTV (79 Series) and I am really very happy with my purchase.

I am really new at this, and this tv represents my first time ever even viewing true HD feeds. I have been having it for like a month now and I am still amazed at the clarity, detail, and richness of HD as opposed to SD. So anyway, understand, I have no experience or background at all to compare anything to. :)

So my question is simple really. Is it possible for my set to have little, or no, geometry issues? For that matter is it possible to get any type of factory set correctly calibrated? I imagine one always has to play with conventional things like say - Contrast and Sharpness, when they first get the tv setup. But, do people normally tend to have to deal with geometry issues like curved images and such?

I read the whole Sammy slimfit thread and so I expected to see something - especially after seeing so many people that have had problems with geometry issues. But I can honestly say - mine seems almost perfect.

I went into the service menu last night, copied my original settings, and then proceeded to play with the settings some under the "Deflection" menu mostly. I could not make a noticeable change of any type that I considered positive at all - no matter how hard I tried. Resetting everything back to the factory pre-sets seems to provide me with as close to perfect as can be. I notice a slight bend at the top right corner that is so slight that it could be my imagination because no one else seems to see it. Nothing else at all. You think this is normal, or lucky?

BTW - I found some settings in the other menus to be of interest to help turn off the melody, red push, and stuff like that. Made the picture even better IMHO. :)

Should I just go ahead and go straight to ISF calibration or would calibrating it myself with a disk help with the ISF part?

Thanks in advance for any help, opinion, input, and otherwise. I apologize in advance for ignorance, long windedness, and such. :)

[kny3twalker]

I believe cause of the shallow depth of the tube, geometry issues will be unaviodable

[hymy]

It's true, tradeoffs come with the shallowness. I shopped for this TV, but I couldn't find anyone that didn't have some geometry problems

[Porcupine2]

You guys did not read the original post carefully. Deadzone says that his particular Samsung Slimfit has near-perfect geometry. He is wondering if this is because: a) his TV is super lucky and was assembled perfectly in the factory to the TV's full potential, b) because his TV is a super mutant god Slimfit TV, or c) because he is not observant enough as he should be.

I do not know which it is. From the Slimfits I've seen in stores the geometry isn't as bad as many people say, but still slightly worse than a non-Slimfit TV. The Slimfits I've seen mainly have geometry issues in the upper corners though (not the lower corners), so what you describe seems to support that. However I don't know if your TV is wonderful or you are unobservant, or what is the case because I don't have enough experience myself....

[Porcupine2]

If you keep your TV longer though and keep looking at it critically, eventually you may notice geometry problems that you didn't at first. Not all geometry problems cause straight lines to go curvy. Some of the worst geometry problems still leave all vertical lines perfectly straight and vertical, and all horizontal lines straight and horizontal (but could wreck havoc on diagonal lines, for example, or in certain areas of the screen).

[nick2003]

How do you know your geometrys good? Have you pulled up a crosshatch pattern? Without that you might not be able to tell. The corner bend is a geometry issue. If your geting the set ISF'd i wouldn't bother doing anything as long as your doing it soon. The calibrator will probably further correct what you've already done anyway.

[georgemoe]

Hi Deadzone. I too read the whole Slimfit thread and it appears to me the sun shines brightly on your R3079WH. ;) I had a ISF calibration last year on my Toshiba 34HFX84 after the breakin period. I noticed a big difference. I think results will vary from set to set.

I checked out the 79 myself for the first time at CC. Obviously it was running in torch mode way too hot so I had to adjust in custom. Only two slight geometry issues noticed when set to 4:3. I couldn't notice anything in 16:9. This was with a 480i signal. The cable feed into this set was horrible so it was hard to judge SD programming.

I'm going to CC now with my dad. He wants a new set and this set fits his available space. I'm hoping the geometry is half decent oob. If not I'll be in the service menu. ;)

[Mathesar]

I was at Circuit City lastnight to pick up a tv stand and was checking out the TV's , The 30" Slimfit had a lot of minor geometry flaws throughout but I couldnt see any super obvious flaws, The one thing I did notice right away was how easily visible the shadowmask is on it.

[deadzone]

Thanks for the feedback everyone! :)

I don't have any special tools but I did take a ruler and measure it out and it seems to be off by a very, very, small margin at the top right. I can't see it, no one else seems to be able to see it so as far as I am concerned - It's perfect. :)

The bottom has no perceptible curvature at all and the left side does not seem to have any problem at all. Just that small top right portion and I had to get a ruler and measure it to see it!

ISF calibrate seems like overkill since from what I am understanding - the big reason to do it is to fix geometry issues. (Maybe i'm wrong, I dunno?) ISF will be a definite after a year or so I think.

I have a calibration disk on the way and will square up my contrast, brightness, color, and etc.. though.