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LoveMovies
03-09-06, 04:30 PM
I just attended a Toshiba HD-DVD demo at the highend A/V store here in San Antonio. All the stuff they showed looked great. They used a 71" 1080P rpDLP set for the display.

I asked about the disks and what would be available when the players ship because there are so many rumors about that. Their buyer said that she talked to someone at Warner Home Video today who assured her that 4 of the 5 launch titles would be ready for sale on Mar 28 and that there would be a formal announcement on Monday. The 5 titles that you have already heard about are Batman Begins, Constantine, Last Samurai, Million Dollar Baby, and Phantom of the Opera.

They also said that the initial titles, for awhile (months?), will not have the copy protect flags and therefore will allow 1080i over component outputs, as well as hdmi.

I'm excited. It will be slow, but at least its happening.
michael

Larry Sutliff
03-09-06, 04:32 PM
They also said that the initial titles, for awhile (months?), will not have the copy protect flags and therefore will allow 1080i over component outputs, as well as hdmi.



That's great news, if true.

timfrommass
03-09-06, 10:26 PM
The official list sent out to BB stores reads pretty much the same way it has for the past few months. All of the launch titles are in tact, and the list through may stays pretty much the same. All looks to be going smoothly

boo
03-10-06, 12:09 AM
While most of us know about the Warner Bros. titles that are coming out on 3-28, what about titles from Paramount and Universal on 3-28 if any?

Grubert
03-10-06, 02:57 AM
[QUOTE=LoveMovies]The 5 titles that you have already heard about are Batman Begins, Constantine, Last Samurai, Million Dollar Baby, and Phantom of the Opera.
[/QUOTE]

The 5 titles Warner gave for March 28 at CES were Batman Begins, Constantine, Million Dollar Baby, Phantom of the Opera and Twister.

Anybody remember the leaked (and later deleted) list posted by amillians? ;)

efralope
03-10-06, 03:43 AM
I remember that supposedly, The Last Samurai had been moved up to March 28th, replacing Twister completely (which had been canceled, I think to wait for a better transfer).

LoveMovies
03-10-06, 07:40 AM
The other thing they told us was that re-release titles would be $29.95 msrp and new release titles (which btw will be SD one one side and HD on the other) will be $34.95 msrp.

Also, according to the new "tentative" list given out, the next bunch will be 4/11: Lethal Weapon 1, Training Day, Unforgiven, and Harry Potter 4 ($34.95).

Nats
03-10-06, 08:36 AM
So, where can I go on-line to pre-order these first titles?
Crutchfield, Abt, and BB only have the players on their websites.
Amazon.com lists Batman Begins, but not Constantine.
DVDEmpire has a bunch of titles, but they dont sell the hardwear, so I suspect they will cancel out like Wal-Mart did? :confused:

JBlacklow
03-10-06, 08:56 AM
You can't order any titles, from anywhere. Amazon has a listing, but it's for notification, not pre-orders. There's no prices and no specs (i.e., codecs, extras, audio) anywhere.

Nats
03-10-06, 09:18 AM
[QUOTE=JBlacklow]You can't order any titles, from anywhere. Amazon has a listing, but it's for notification, not pre-orders. There's no prices and no specs (i.e., codecs, extras, audio) anywhere.[/QUOTE]

That's what I thought! :(

Alan Sh
03-10-06, 12:49 PM
[QUOTE=LoveMovies]The other thing they told us was that re-release titles would be $29.95 msrp and new release titles (which btw will be SD one one side and HD on the other) will be $34.95 msrp.

Also, according to the new "tentative" list given out, the next bunch will be 4/11: Lethal Weapon 1, Training Day, Unforgiven, and Harry Potter 4 ($34.95).[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the helpful heads up info.

My only concern is that posts like yours get lost in all the "die HD DVD" vitriol.

LoveMovies
03-10-06, 01:03 PM
I was able to pre-order a couple of the launch titles from my local A/V store, on-site for msrp (of course). (They charged me $29.95 + tax)

For me that will do until discs and players get out into the market and places like amazon get inventory and I have more choices.

ChrisPC
03-10-06, 02:21 PM
[QUOTE=efralope]I remember that supposedly, The Last Samurai had been moved up to March 28th, replacing Twister completely (which had been canceled, I think to wait for a better transfer).[/QUOTE]

I believe it. The HD transfer of Twister I saw on TNT-HD last month was horrible. It was HD, but very blurry.

Grubert
03-10-06, 03:22 PM
Video Business article: Warner HD DVD titles delay?
(http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6315184.html)

"Warner executives declined to comment."

The article ends hazarding a guess that Warner might actually be in better conditions to meet the deadline, considering they have been present at the AACS negotiators and hence knew the draft licenses before they were adopted.

Nats
03-10-06, 04:15 PM
[QUOTE=Grubert]Video Business article: Warner HD DVD titles delay?
(http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6315184.html)

"Warner executives declined to comment."

The article ends hazarding a guess that Warner might actually be in better conditions to meet the deadline, considering they have been present at the AACS negotiators and hence knew the draft licenses before they were adopted.[/QUOTE]

Its interesting that neither Warner nor Wal-Mart would comment.
Alot of folks want to know why Wal-Mart pulled the plug on HDDVD software. Some speculate its because they are not authorized (they do not sell the hardware) but if this is true, how come DVDEmpire; et al, still lists titles (even if they arent for pre-sale)?
If there is another delay, it may well spell DOOM for Toshiba and HDDVD esp. if BD launchs on schedule.
Hopefully, we will have some answers next week if Warner makes a offical announcment.

Clepto
03-10-06, 05:22 PM
Yeah, Warner decided to just release HD DVD and BD titles at the same time (;

Edit: Note, the above text is purely humorous in intent, and poses no semblance to reality, either in my mind or in the 'real' world. Apparently some people take this WAY to seriously, so we'll need to start adding disclaimers to anything we post. You may now switch to decaf.

Nats
03-10-06, 05:36 PM
[QUOTE=Clepto]Yeah, Warner decided to just release HD DVD and BD titles at the same time (;[/QUOTE]

Exactly what was on my mind ;)

Larry Sutliff
03-10-06, 06:01 PM
Wal-Mart still hasn't cancelled my PHANTOM OF THE OPERA pre-order.

DTV TiVo Dealer
03-10-06, 06:06 PM
[QUOTE=Clepto]Yeah, Warner decided to just release HD DVD and BD titles at the same time (;[/QUOTE]

Why would you say that? You certainly know that you and only you made up your FUD.

Hundreds of thousands of member and non-members read this forum and come here and rely on quality, accurate advice and your made up, absolutely untrue post just may be believed as you are a notable member with a significant post count.

Why do you choose to do this? You remind me of an Internet hacker who gets their kicks by hurting good companies. No personal gain, (at least I assume so) just destructive behavior.

-Robert

Alan Sh
03-10-06, 06:06 PM
[QUOTE=Clepto]Yeah, Warner decided to just release HD DVD and BD titles at the same time (;[/QUOTE]

Of what possible value is this post?

DTV TiVo Dealer
03-10-06, 06:11 PM
[QUOTE=Nats]Its interesting that neither Warner nor Wal-Mart would comment.
Alot of folks want to know why Wal-Mart pulled the plug on HDDVD software. Some speculate its because they are not authorized (they do not sell the hardware) but if this is true, how come DVDEmpire; et al, still lists titles (even if they arent for pre-sale)?
If there is another delay, it may well spell DOOM for Toshiba and HDDVD esp. if BD launchs on schedule.
Hopefully, we will have some answers next week if Warner makes a offical announcment.[/QUOTE]

Companies typically do not comment of league issues. Wal-Mart is not authorized to sell HD DVDs. DVDEmpire and many other sites, including my own list the titles.

This roll-out is very limited and the software production is carefully tied to the hardware volume and distribution.

As of now their is no delay and we will have more information by March 18th or sooner.

-Robert

Larry Sutliff
03-10-06, 06:17 PM
As always, thanks for the accurate info, Robert.

timfrommass
03-10-06, 06:51 PM
Best Buy has the launch titles listed at $25 BTW

Ilka
03-10-06, 07:03 PM
[QUOTE=DTV TiVo Dealer]As of now their is no delay

-Robert[/QUOTE]

Do you speak for Toshiba? Warner? etc.?

Brian M
03-10-06, 07:25 PM
[QUOTE=timfrommass]Best Buy has the launch titles listed at $25 BTW[/QUOTE]
Is that instore or online?

timfrommass
03-10-06, 07:39 PM
The in store system lists them at $25...sale prices obviously could be lower

Catdaddy67
03-10-06, 08:17 PM
Robert is a Toshiba dealer and already has a demo HD-DVD unit at his store.

Ken Ross
03-10-06, 08:32 PM
[QUOTE=Ilka]Do you speak for Toshiba? Warner? etc.?[/QUOTE]

Let's see, do I sooner trust Robert with his excellent track record or "Clepto" with his 'troll-like' comments.....gee, let me think about that for a minute. :rolleyes:

nyg
03-10-06, 10:33 PM
[QUOTE=Catdaddy67]Robert is a Toshiba dealer and already has a demo HD-DVD unit at his store.[/QUOTE]

How does Robert being a Toshiba dealer give him accurate knowledge of what exactly Warner is doing with their HD DVD launch titles? Nothing against him but I fail to see the connection. At best, wouldn't his inside information spawn from what Toshiba "thinks" Warner is up to?

nyg
03-10-06, 10:37 PM
[QUOTE=DTV TiVo Dealer]Companies typically do not comment of league issues.[/quote]

Agreed. However, it would be in everyone's best interest for Warner to give a brief mention that all is okay with their launch plans if that's indeed the case.

As of now their is no delay and we will have more information by March 18th or sooner.

As a Toshiba dealer you're probably correct that the hardware will be ready on 3/28, but as for the software, how can you be sure?

Catdaddy67
03-10-06, 10:48 PM
You would have to assume that the Toshiba rep that gave him the information knew what she was talking about. The Warner rep assured her that 4 of the 5 Warner titles would be available at launch (March 28.)

I dont know if one would take that to the bank .. but it seems pretty reasonable to me that hardware and software manufacturers/distributors would coordinate to that degree. It (he- Robert) is a lot more credible to me than anything else that I have read.

Alan Sh
03-10-06, 11:17 PM
[QUOTE=n2blu]How does Robert being a Toshiba dealer give him accurate knowledge of what exactly Warner is doing with their HD DVD launch titles? Nothing against him but I fail to see the connection. At best, wouldn't his inside information spawn from what Toshiba "thinks" Warner is up to?[/QUOTE]
Why are you posting in this thread?

This thread is to help those who have ordered a player to determine what titles will be available on March 28.

Why does anyone care what a BD supporter who does not have an HD DVD player on order has to say in this thread?

It's a jelly
03-10-06, 11:42 PM
the release list is in here. Go here and click the HD DVD logo by the flower and you can view the players and specs and also the titles being released.
tacp.toshiba.

on the wal-mart note. they will be able to sell the HD DVD's and possibly the players (doubt they will though) however they aren't going to be able to sell as soon as they thought they would. But I can promise you that Wal-mart WILL be caring Toshiba products very soon as well as HD DVD's

timfrommass
03-10-06, 11:56 PM
No one KNOWS if the disks will be there until they are in a store. However, all we can go on is what our distributors tell us. THe launch list remains unchanged according to them

nyg
03-11-06, 12:33 AM
[QUOTE=Alan Sh]Why are you posting in this thread?

This thread is to help those who have ordered a player to determine what titles will be available on March 28.

Why does anyone care what a BD supporter who does not have an HD DVD player on order has to say in this thread?[/QUOTE]

So it's wrong for me to want correct info just because I'm a BD supporter? I wasn't trolling so relax.

Clepto
03-11-06, 12:41 AM
[QUOTE=DTV TiVo Dealer]Why would you say that? You certainly know that you and only you made up your FUD.
[/QUOTE]

It's called humor, and trying to alleviate the tension. You might want to try it sometime. Geez. How anyone could take that post seriously, I don't know, and I did put the wink in the text.

[quote=Clepto]
Yeah, Warner decided to just release HD DVD and BD titles at the same time (;[/quote]

Wink wink? -> (; ;) <-

No need to make personal attacks on me. We're all waiting to hear some official announcements, and everything is conjecture till we hear more. Do you assault all your customers like that?

Clepto
03-11-06, 01:01 AM
[QUOTE=Alan Sh]Of what possible value is this post?[/QUOTE]
Small chuckle? C'mon, didn't it make you snort a lil bit?

Nats
03-11-06, 06:53 AM
[QUOTE=DTV TiVo Dealer]Companies typically do not comment of league issues. Wal-Mart is not authorized to sell HD DVDs. DVDEmpire and many other sites, including my own list the titles.

This roll-out is very limited and the software production is carefully tied to the hardware volume and distribution.

As of now their is no delay and we will have more information by March 18th or sooner.

-Robert[/QUOTE]

Thank you Robert for the clarification.
I dont know who to trust around here, but I'm learning fast ;)

LoveMovies
03-11-06, 07:33 AM
n2blu: As a BD troll, I can see that you would take this stand, hoping that HD-DVD will fail.

As a dealer, DTV TivoDealer would be in the same position as my dealer here in town, he can call ANY of his suppliers, which includes Warner Home Video. Thats where my dealer got his info and what I based this post on.

Alan Sh
03-11-06, 08:30 AM
[QUOTE=n2blu]So it's wrong for me to want correct info just because I'm a BD supporter? I wasn't trolling so relax.[/QUOTE]

In this post you were trying to "correct" nothing.

You were questioning the value of Robert's info and trying to demean it.

DTV TiVo Dealer
03-11-06, 10:12 AM
[QUOTE=Clepto]It's called humor, and trying to alleviate the tension. You might want to try it sometime. Geez. How anyone could take that post seriously, I don't know, and I did put the wink in the text.

Wink wink? -> (; ;) <-

No need to make personal attacks on me. We're all waiting to hear some official announcements, and everything is conjecture till we hear more. Do you assault all your customers like that?[/QUOTE]

Thanks for explaining, but how would anyone know that your (; mark was meant to be a ;) ?

I am getting a little frustrated by the FUD going on so I responded to your post as I truly did not want anyone to possible believe it. I am just trying to stop the mis-information. Sorry if it offended you and of course I do not treat customers the same way. Give me a call so we can talk.

-Robert

DTV TiVo Dealer
03-11-06, 10:16 AM
[QUOTE=n2blu]How does Robert being a Toshiba dealer give him accurate knowledge of what exactly Warner is doing with their HD DVD launch titles? Nothing against him but I fail to see the connection. At best, wouldn't his inside information spawn from what Toshiba "thinks" Warner is up to?[/QUOTE]

My company was selected by Warner Bros. and Toshiba to be among the first authorized dealers to sell HD DVD hardware and software. I speak with reps, managers, senior management and technical staff to get my information.

-Robert

nyg
03-11-06, 12:57 PM
[QUOTE=LoveMovies]n2blu: As a BD troll, I can see that you would take this stand, hoping that HD-DVD will fail.[/QUOTE]

Take what stand? Saying that I want the facts to come out? Give me a break. If anything I've been gentle in my postings as to not make people like you cry. I never cover up the fact that I prefer BD but that doesn't mean I'm not interested in seeing what happens with HD DVD each step of the way. It also isn't written in stone that I won't end up supporting both formats.

nyg
03-11-06, 12:58 PM
[QUOTE=DTV TiVo Dealer]My company was selected by Warner Bros. and Toshiba to be among the first authorized dealers to sell HD DVD hardware and software. I speak with reps, managers, senior management and technical staff to get my information.

-Robert[/QUOTE]

Fair enough. I'm not a dealer so I'm unaware of how much good info is available to people in your position. I meant no offense in my posts regarding your insight.

AnthonyP
03-12-06, 02:03 PM
I speak with reps, managers, senior management and technical staff to get my information.


my issue with this is that in my experience dealing with the same type of people from my suppliers is that either they don't know what is happening (mostly sales rep and tech) or if they do they can't give any more info then is public. Sometimes you might get someone that knows and is close enough to feel comfortable telling you the truth but then the guy also expects you to be quiet about it.

Answer me this. Have you ever had a product that was delayed? If so, until a more official statement was made has a rep, manager, senior manager or technical guy given you the heads up way before hand and before they were given the official OK?

DTV TiVo Dealer
03-12-06, 02:09 PM
I get a lot a very accurate information just by asking and having a very good relationship with my suppliers. No one tells me anything they are not allowed to say. However, sometimes I get a little more information than is released through the normal channels.

I have been mislead on delivery of new technology before, but my previous experience has no effect on this product.

-Robert

AnthonyP
03-12-06, 04:06 PM
I have been mislead on delivery of new technology before, but my previous experience has no effect on this product.

who said effect. But like you said you have in the past been intentionally or unintentionally been mislead and it is possible that you are being mislead this time as well. You can’t guarantee that your info is true because it is not your info to guarantee.

Grubert
03-12-06, 04:18 PM
[QUOTE=DTV TiVo Dealer]I get a lot a very accurate information just by asking and having a very good relationship with my suppliers. No one tells me anything they are not allowed to say. However, sometimes I get a little more information than is released through the normal channels.

-Robert[/QUOTE]

I hope that information is more accurate than what they gave you in January 10:

[QUOTE=DTV TiVo Dealer]It looks like we will have 48 HD DVD titles available in March just when Toshiba's HD DVD players will become available.[/QUOTE]


Or in January 21:

[QUOTE=DTV TiVo Dealer]I have been working on procuring Warner, Paramount, HBO and Weinstein Bros HD DVD for a few weeks and here's what I know so far.

[...]

About 20 HD DVD's should be available on 3/28/06.

[/QUOTE]

SurfingMatt27
03-12-06, 05:03 PM
For you blu-ray supporters.. why do you even care if you have no intentions of picking up these HD-DVD players?

Trolls belong in their caves which in your case is your blu-ray threads section.

DTV TiVo Dealer
03-12-06, 05:05 PM
My January 10th post was based on what was said at CES, and obviously by now we know this is incorrect. The later January 21th quote may still be valid as Universal and Paramount will be confirming their first HD DVD releases later this week.

Their was a lot of incorrect information about Blu-ray at CES as well.

-Robert

AnthonyP
03-12-06, 05:11 PM
why do you even care if you have no intentions of picking up these HD-DVD players?

My intention is to be well informed and buy the best device and format based on the facts at that time. At this time I am 99% sure it will most likely be a BD player. But facts can change and so I want to stay informed. Some people want to know the facts and buy what is best others want to buy something and then delude themselves it was the best decision :)

SurfingMatt27
03-12-06, 05:25 PM
I guess that's a good excuse:)

As for the other blu-ray supporters i don't know, don't thay have anytyhing else to do than try and lure members to their side which in of itself is backfiring?

Chris Beveridge
03-12-06, 05:26 PM
[QUOTE=SurfingMatt27]For you blu-ray supporters.. why do you even care if you have no intentions of picking up these HD-DVD players?.[/QUOTE]

Because while some of us may have no real personal interest in it, there's plenty of others who do and it's important to know where things stand. As it is, there are alot of new people coming into these forums now to get info and are getting blindsided on both sides by long standing pissing matches between some long time posters to when it was all in one thread.

Personally, I have little real interest in HD DVD but am certainly giving it a fair shake. But even if I'm not a keen supporter on it, I *have* to know what's going on with it. And a lot of the info here is very much bleeding edge for it and that gives me an edge in my reporting.

SurfingMatt27
03-12-06, 05:32 PM
Very well..some of your supporters do get out of line though.Which was why i questioned them since some have no intention of ever buying an HD-DVd player yet frequent this forum section daily trying to get a rise out of people which just is'nt right when some people like to see these sections to see what's hot in the HD formats not see a bickering contest wading through page after page of nitpicking.

steviec
03-12-06, 05:50 PM
I think what you are seeing is alot of envious and jealous Bluray people who would very much like to be getting a player and software also in a couple weeks.
However it makes the ones who are bluray only very insecure since HD-DVD already has the players and movies really coming out and the bluray info is still speculation.
Bluray people I am very sorry your stuff isnt coming out yet but that is not Toshiba or the HD-DVD formats fault.
It may be best for you to just ignore the HD-dvd forum and hang out at the blu-ray forum.
Those of us who like HD-DVD have already made up our minds and all the negative comments wont sway anyone.

SurfingMatt27
03-12-06, 06:00 PM
Agreed Steve!

nyg
03-12-06, 06:02 PM
[QUOTE=steviec]I think what you are seeing is alot of envious and jealous Bluray people who would very much like to be getting a player and software also in a couple weeks.
However it makes the ones who are bluray only very insecure since HD-DVD already has the players and movies really coming out and the bluray info is still speculation.
Bluray people I am very sorry your stuff isnt coming out yet but that is not Toshiba or the HD-DVD formats fault.
It may be best for you to just ignore the HD-dvd forum and hang out at the blu-ray forum.
Those of us who like HD-DVD have already made up our minds and all the negative comments wont sway anyone.[/QUOTE]

Proof positive that it isn't just BD supporters who can be jerks. Yeah I'm so jealous of your format with such small studio support. Omigod like how will I survive waiting a whole two months for BD? Gimme a break! :rolleyes:

nyg
03-12-06, 06:07 PM
[QUOTE=SurfingMatt27]For you blu-ray supporters.. why do you even care if you have no intentions of picking up these HD-DVD players?

Trolls belong in their caves which in your case is your blu-ray threads section.[/QUOTE]

I haven't ruled out buying an HD DVD player too. For starters I'd like to see signs that more studio support is coming soon. And I've said in previous posts pretty much the same as AnthonyP, I want the facts on both formats. I'll make my decision on whether or not to buy one or both formats on all the information I have available to me. I'd be foolish if I just read the BD forums. What can I learn from those preaching to the choir? Your posts are making you come off as the troll. If you don't want to debate what's going on in the world of HD on disc then don't open these threads.

SurfingMatt27
03-12-06, 06:29 PM
With your name, your signature, and your attitude to this thread and HD-DVD in general:

Proof positive that it isn't just BD supporters who can be jerks. Yeah I'm so jealous of your format with such small studio support. Omigod like how will I survive waiting a whole two months for BD? Gimme a break!

Who is the troll now?

If you don't want to debate what's going on in the world of HD on disc then don't open these threads.

FYI i didn't open this thread get your facts straight before wrongfully accusing someone.I simply come here because i'm interested in the news of HDDVD and am looking foward to picking up this player.

nyg
03-12-06, 09:12 PM
[QUOTE=SurfingMatt27]Who is the troll now?[/quote]

Did you even read steviec's post which I was replying to, or do you automatically ignore troll comments from HD DVD supporters? :rolleyes:

FYI i didn't open this thread get your facts straight before wrongfully accusing someone.I simply come here because i'm interested in the news of HDDVD and am looking foward to picking up this player.

You didn't "start" this thread but you sure as hell opened it! When you clicked the link to this thread you opened it. ;)

bferr1
03-12-06, 10:21 PM
Has anyone noticed how every thread ends up looking the same lately, no matter the topic?

keenan
03-12-06, 10:31 PM
In this forum? Yes, they do, while there is really not a lot of hard info available regarding hardware and software, to have to wade through all the crap to find a nugget of information is getting tiresome.

Art Sonneborn
03-12-06, 10:45 PM
They should close the new HD forums until there is some information. :D I still think that someone must have a rope around some nuts to be able to keep under wraps what titles, ICT, studios etc all this long and well.

Art

Grubert
03-13-06, 03:29 AM
[QUOTE=keenan]In this forum? Yes, they do, while there is really not a lot of hard info available regarding hardware and software, to have to wade through all the crap to find a nugget of information is getting tiresome.[/QUOTE]

Shameless plug: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=651001

:D

keenan
03-13-06, 12:07 PM
[QUOTE=Grubert]Shameless plug: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=651001

:D[/QUOTE]
Okay, that's nice...not sure how I missed that one... thanks. :)

Ilka
03-13-06, 12:30 PM
This thread is now mis-labelled. It should be called "HD-DVD Launch Title March 28". (Note the removal of the plural).

Looks like the launch title is Chronos ... ROTFLMAO

dugpa
03-13-06, 01:22 PM
You know, back on the day the first dvd player was released there were only four titles available, and they were all Imax movies. Not only that, but none of the major retailers such as Best Buy stocked them. Didn't seem to hurt that format any. It's amazing how short a memory people have.

Catdaddy67
03-13-06, 01:34 PM
This thread is now mis-labelled. It should be called "HD-DVD Launch Title March 28". (Note the removal of the plural).

Looks like the launch title is Chronos ... ROTFLMAO

Heh heh. Keep the faith, man. They will be here SOON !

JBlacklow
03-13-06, 01:37 PM
[QUOTE=dugpa]You know, back on the day the first dvd player was released there were only four titles available, and they were all Imax movies. Not only that, but none of the major retailers such as Best Buy stocked them. Didn't seem to hurt that format any. It's amazing how short a memory people have.[/QUOTE]It also took two years before DVD gained a strong foothold, and that was as a unified format with almost complete major manufacturer and studio support.

Grubert
03-13-06, 02:01 PM
Also, we've heard time and again that HD DVD will prevail because it will arrive in the market by March.

Now that advantage later disappears or is diminished. So it is undoubtedly a strike against it.

DTV TiVo Dealer
03-13-06, 02:05 PM
[QUOTE=Catdaddy67]Heh heh. Keep the faith, man. They will be here SOON ![/QUOTE]

You never know how right you can be sometimes. This is not official yet, but I want to break two great news happenings.

First, we may get an official announcement from Warner Bros. with titles, dates and prices later today or no later than tomorrow.

Second we may get an announcement from Universal today or tomorrow as well, saying that they will be releasing King Kong in SD and HD DVD with a street date of 3/28/06.

-Robert

SurfingMatt27
03-13-06, 02:21 PM
Robert that's great news!!!

ever since i seen that king kong demo at magnolia Hi-FI i was blown away and now i'm even more happier if king kong is a launch title.

muncey
03-13-06, 02:24 PM
King Kong on HD-DVD, I'm in.

muncey

bferr1
03-13-06, 02:35 PM
If Kong is a launch title, I'm in, too.

Sinastar
03-13-06, 02:37 PM
Fantastic!!! :)

muncey
03-13-06, 02:39 PM
if the king kong thing happens, i think there will be many blu ray fans with a toshiba player. this is exactly what toshiba needs for the launch, get that kong disc out for the road show also.

muncey

dialog_gvf
03-13-06, 02:45 PM
Maybe. But, even though I'd be tempted, I wouldn't spend $525 for one title. And not a particularly good movie at that.

Patience is my new motto. Let the content chase me, instead of the other way around.

Now, V for Vendetta (Warner). That has my ear perked up. :)

Gary

Larry Sutliff
03-13-06, 02:45 PM
[QUOTE=DTV TiVo Dealer]You never know how right you can be sometimes. This is not official yet, but I want to break two great news happenings.

First, we may get an official announcement from Warner Bros. with titles, dates and prices later today or no later than tomorrow.

Second we may get an announcement from Universal today or tomorrow as well, saying that they will be releasing King Kong in SD and HD DVD with a street date of 3/28/06.

-Robert[/QUOTE]


Whoa! The news about KONG makes my day, keeping my fingers crossed that it's true.

bferr1
03-13-06, 03:03 PM
[QUOTE=dialog_gvf]Now, V for Vendetta (Warner). That has my ear perked up. :)
[/QUOTE]

According to this tentative list (http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htforum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=252293), the V For Vendetta HD DVD is due out on my birthday this summer (7/25/06)!

darinp2
03-13-06, 03:35 PM
[QUOTE=DTV TiVo Dealer]Second we may get an announcement from Universal today or tomorrow as well, saying that they will be releasing King Kong in SD and HD DVD with a street date of 3/28/06. [/QUOTE]While I think this would be awesome, I don't think the chances of this one happening are very high. I hope I'm wrong though.

--Darin

nyg
03-13-06, 04:52 PM
[QUOTE=dialog_gvf]Maybe. But, even though I'd be tempted, I wouldn't spend $525 for one title. And not a particularly good movie at that. [/QUOTE]

Agreed.

SurfingMatt27
03-13-06, 06:16 PM
The blu-ray launch titles are'nt overwelming either. :rolleyes: and your paying double the price for your blu-ray player.

Robert George
03-13-06, 06:41 PM
Patience is my new motto.

Patience, my ass. I'm going to buy something.

(paraphrased)

:)

steviec
03-13-06, 09:02 PM
[QUOTE=Robert George]Patience, my ass. I'm going to buy something.

(paraphrased)

:)[/QUOTE]
Thats the spirit Robert!
Lets buy both HD-DVD and blu-Ray and have a great time!!

keenan
03-13-06, 09:08 PM
That's always been my plan from the get-go. It's frustrating having a pile of money and nothing to spend it on. :D

joerod
03-13-06, 11:19 PM
MARCH 28 can't come soon enough...Not even a BR troll can spoil this news!!!

Tango22
03-14-06, 12:02 AM
[QUOTE=steviec]Thats the spirit Robert!
Lets buy both HD-DVD and blu-Ray and have a great time!![/QUOTE]

Right there with you...

Clepto
03-14-06, 12:48 PM
[QUOTE=Robert George]Patience, my ass. I'm going to buy something.

(paraphrased)

:)[/QUOTE]

I have some stuff on ebay for sale... (;

Ilka
03-14-06, 02:27 PM
[QUOTE=DTV TiVo Dealer]This is not official yet, but I want to break two great news happenings.

First, we may get an official announcement from Warner Bros. with titles, dates and prices later today or no later than tomorrow.

Second we may get an announcement from Universal today or tomorrow as well, saying that they will be releasing King Kong in SD and HD DVD with a street date of 3/28/06.

-Robert[/QUOTE]

Any updates on this? All I see is more news report of the Warner probs.

wired1
03-14-06, 03:25 PM
"It's 5PM... Do you know where your HD Announcements are?" :(

Boy, I was really hoping to see a shred of evidence supporting releases for 3-28... although I guess it IS only 1:30 pm on the West coast. Perhaps a little later in the day?

:confused:

Nats
03-14-06, 03:33 PM
[QUOTE=DTV TiVo Dealer]You never know how right you can be sometimes. This is not official yet, but I want to break two great news happenings.

First, we may get an official announcement from Warner Bros. with titles, dates and prices later today or no later than tomorrow.

Second we may get an announcement from Universal today or tomorrow as well, saying that they will be releasing King Kong in SD and HD DVD with a street date of 3/28/06.

-Robert[/QUOTE]

Hey Robert, we're chomp'en at the bit waiting for your report, any word?

IS IT MARCH 28TH YET????????? :p

joerod
03-14-06, 03:42 PM
I love how mainly the BR backers are most interested in the announcement. You would think they were going to be buying the player and titles...

joerod
03-14-06, 03:50 PM
Patience, I am sure the BR people are just as excited...

wired1
03-14-06, 03:54 PM
[QUOTE=joerod]I love how mainly the BR backers are most interested in the announcement. You would think they were going to be buying the player and titles...[/QUOTE]

I'm not a BR backer :( I just want my movies.

*Being called a "BR BACKER" somehow feels like being called stupid* :(

Honestly, I am a COOL NEW TECHNOLOGY backer, and no worries, I am sure your comment wasn't directed at me... I just wanted to point out how badly I am wanting to hear news of releases.

I WILL be super interested in BR when I get my PS3 (of which I have already pre-ordered 7!!!)

As I have said earlier, downloadable content is the real future, not Hardware. So I see these 2 formats much like D-VHS... something new and shiny until the REAL SHOW...

In any case, I REALLY would like an update here on the releases and on KONG!!!!!!

Thanks!!! :)

joerod
03-14-06, 03:58 PM
Sorry Wired, my post was not directed at you. I agree with you, and I also plan to get a PS3 player as well... Kong! Kong! Kong!

Ilka
03-14-06, 03:59 PM
[QUOTE=joerod]I love how mainly the BR backers are most interested in the announcement. You would think they were going to be buying the player and titles...[/QUOTE]

LOL. Yeah, why should any of us that have players on order worry about using it for anything else other than a boat anchor come 3/28?

joerod
03-14-06, 04:02 PM
Wow ilka, that was a fast response! Like I said before, you guys are ALL OVER the HD DVD threads. Sure you aren't getting one?

wired1
03-14-06, 07:51 PM
[QUOTE=DTV TiVo Dealer]You never know how right you can be sometimes. This is not official yet, but I want to break two great news happenings.

First, we may get an official announcement from Warner Bros. with titles, dates and prices later today or no later than tomorrow.

Second we may get an announcement from Universal today or tomorrow as well, saying that they will be releasing King Kong in SD and HD DVD with a street date of 3/28/06.

-Robert[/QUOTE]


Biggest disappointment in my day was no new info after this very encouraging post yesterday... of course, that should be my biggest problem in life ;)

Robert, please post some info soon!!! PLEASE!!!!!

-Wired :(

joerod
03-14-06, 08:56 PM
Hang in there Wired...Tomorrow is just around the corner...

efralope
03-14-06, 11:28 PM
that was posted yesterday, it's already "tomorrow"

CD_14
03-15-06, 01:01 AM
http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/03/14/blu-ray_hddvd_face_new_technical_issues/

Issac Hunt
03-15-06, 02:36 AM
[QUOTE=efralope]that was posted yesterday, it's already "tomorrow"[/QUOTE]
In fact tomorrow was yesterday, and today is the day after! Still no news from Warners..?

Grubert
03-15-06, 02:52 AM
[QUOTE=CD_14]http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/03/14/blu-ray_hddvd_face_new_technical_issues/[/QUOTE]

Wow, now AVS forum is referenced by tgdaily as a source. The lunatics have taken over the asylum. :D

Issac Hunt
03-15-06, 05:36 AM
Back in your cell, Grubert. ;)

joerod
03-15-06, 06:24 AM
Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday...

efranzen
03-15-06, 06:30 AM
I should have posted that it is tomorrow yesterday but I forgot what day it is.

efralope
03-15-06, 06:33 AM
today is already the tomorrow of the tomorrow we worried about, which was yesterday...

today (15th) is already the tomorrow (15th) of the tomorrow (14th) we worried about, which was yesterday(14th), since we were told either "today (13th) or tomorrow (14th)" the day (13th) before yesterday (14th)...

Issac Hunt
03-15-06, 06:34 AM
I'm sorry, who am I again?

Nats
03-15-06, 07:32 AM
[QUOTE=wired1]I'm not a BR backer :( I just want my movies.

*Being called a "BR BACKER" somehow feels like being called stupid* :(

Honestly, I am a COOL NEW TECHNOLOGY backer, and no worries, I am sure your comment wasn't directed at me... I just wanted to point out how badly I am wanting to hear news of releases.

I WILL be super interested in BR when I get my PS3 (of which I have already pre-ordered 7!!!)

As I have said earlier, downloadable content is the real future, not Hardware. So I see these 2 formats much like D-VHS... something new and shiny until the REAL SHOW...

In any case, I REALLY would like an update here on the releases and on KONG!!!!!!

Thanks!!! :)[/QUOTE]

I'm not a BR "backer" either. I'm a HD backer.
Since I have my pre-order in for a AX1 as well as some BR discs, I have a vested interest in both formats. I am currently excited about HDDVD simply because I get to lay my greedy little hands on it sooner, not because I think its "better" or that it will win the format war. I dont care, I just want hi def. NOW!
When Sony announces launch of their player, I will be equally excited, and order one of their's too.
So, of course I hang out on both HDDVD and BR forums :)

IS IT MARCH 28TH YET?????????

George Montemayor
03-15-06, 11:14 AM
[QUOTE=Nats]IS IT MARCH 28TH YET?????????[/QUOTE]
It will be if you adjust the date on your computer. :p

joerod
03-15-06, 05:19 PM
Only 9 days left...

Brian M
03-15-06, 05:23 PM
I just emailed Robert.It seems his email box has exploded since it returned back.Poor guy

cgengler
03-15-06, 05:33 PM
[QUOTE=Brian M]I just emailed Robert.It seems his email box has exploded since it returned back.Poor guy[/QUOTE]
Great, I hope he didn't skip town. I should check my credit card acct. to make sure there isn't a debit of $499. :p

joerod
03-15-06, 05:39 PM
I am sure he will make an announcement sometime soon...Really, he will...

Brian M
03-15-06, 05:41 PM
[QUOTE=joerod]I am sure he will make an announcement sometime soon...Really, he will...[/QUOTE]
What i ment is the guy probably has enough stress on him to break 3 guys.Hope he is ok ;)

Blasst
03-15-06, 06:53 PM
I called Robert today to find out any info. He is still waiting for the big info. I guess we should use a little more patience and hope the info will be here in a day or two. :) I also want HD-DVD titles by the 28th, but if not...... its not the end of the world.

Ilka
03-15-06, 07:50 PM
[QUOTE=Blasst]I called Robert today to find out any info. He is still waiting for the big info. I guess we should use a little more patience and hope the info will be here in a day or two. :) I also want HD-DVD titles by the 28th, but if not...... its not the end of the world.[/QUOTE]

Wasn't Robert the dude that started that thread complaining about all the FUD? ... How ironic. It certainly adds to the Uncertainty and Doubt aspect ... LMAO

steviec
03-15-06, 08:32 PM
[QUOTE=Blasst]I called Robert today to find out any info. He is still waiting for the big info. I guess we should use a little more patience and hope the info will be here in a day or two. :) I also want HD-DVD titles by the 28th, but if not...... its not the end of the world.[/QUOTE]
That correct! Even though I feel like a person who hasn't eaten for a week waiting for a raw steak I think we have to wait until the 28th!

joerod
03-15-06, 09:23 PM
You know what else is ironic, the article by Paul Sweeting (this month's WSR) I just read stating the PS3 may be shipping without BR. How about that for UNCERTAINTY. Now why don't you go post over in your BR land? Or better yet you should go to sony's underground website and take their survey asking consumers about how important HD features are to them on the PS3...Does that ADD to your doubt ASPECT?

BIG ED
03-15-06, 10:20 PM
I also want HD-DVD titles by the 28th, but if not...... its not the end of the world.
Yes it is!!!
You are now banished for life from the HD Forums. ;-)

joerod
03-16-06, 06:57 PM
Hey, don't pick on my friend The Q..: )

sknight1
03-17-06, 09:41 PM
[QUOTE=DTV TiVo Dealer]You never know how right you can be sometimes. This is not official yet, but I want to break two great news happenings.

First, we may get an official announcement from Warner Bros. with titles, dates and prices later today or no later than tomorrow.

Second we may get an announcement from Universal today or tomorrow as well, saying that they will be releasing King Kong in SD and HD DVD with a street date of 3/28/06.

-Robert[/QUOTE]

I know WB switched their lineup to April 18th, but did Universal make an announcement about King Kong yet?

Thanks!

73ChargerFan
04-12-06, 03:27 PM
Walmart is listing the Matrix on 4/18 and an RCA HD-DVD player to be released on 5/18 for $500.

Clepto
04-12-06, 03:28 PM
[QUOTE=sknight1]I know WB switched their lineup to April 18th, but did Universal make an announcement about King Kong yet?

Thanks![/QUOTE]

No announcement on KK in Phase 1 or Phase 2 (4/18, 4/25) for Universal.

Aaron Davis
04-13-06, 12:24 PM
Robert from VE stated that KK will be early may, so perhaps a 3rd wave release? May 2nd?

joerod
04-13-06, 12:26 PM
King Kong will definitely be the biggest title for HD DVD...Atleast early on...

dugpa
04-13-06, 12:27 PM
[QUOTE=Aaron Davis]Robert from VE stated that KK will be early may, so perhaps a 3rd wave release? May 2nd?[/QUOTE]

Nope, not unless they announce it seperately. 3rd and 4th waves:

05/09
Assault on Precinct 13
Cinderella Man
Jarhead

05/23
Bourne Supremacy
Chronicles of Riddick
U-571
Van Helsing

rambo2300
04-14-06, 07:27 AM
[QUOTE=joerod]King Kong will definitely be the biggest title for HD DVD...Atleast early on...[/QUOTE]

I think it's sad that King Kong is the biggest title, since I feel the only good thing about it are the special effects, and the 'hot momma'.

joerod
04-14-06, 08:00 AM
King Kong will be great reference material for when you want to demo your unit to others. And occasionaly sit thru the whole movie... We happened to like it though.

ChrisW6ATV
04-14-06, 05:26 PM
[QUOTE=rambo2300]I think it's sad that King Kong is the biggest title[/QUOTE]
It is definitely not on my "buy list" either. The preview on the HD-DVD demo disc did look good, but the movie itself does not interest me. There will be other good titles arriving, though.